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I clicked on buy for 20 euros which is like 27 dollars to NZ but then it changed to 27 USD which is like 33 bucks for us here in Zealand. Found an old promo for 20% off - wasn't sure if it was expired but there's no place during checkout to add a voucher code any way.

There's no place to get help on Facebook because you can not start a new topic. I really don't want to have to sign up to Twitter again. Couldn't be arsed to make a second separate account for Minecraft.net's forums.

There's no tech support or sales support email just a run around data base.

I take it this is one of those games you buy when your weekly wages are so high you don't really care if the game works or not and how much you have to spend - "$30 plus is an easily affordable gamble..."
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carnival73: I clicked on buy for 20 euros which is like 27 dollars to NZ but then it changed to 27 USD which is like 33 bucks for us here in Zealand. Found an old promo for 20% off - wasn't sure if it was expired but there's no place during checkout to add a voucher code any way.

There's no place to get help on Facebook because you can not start a new topic. I really don't want to have to sign up to Twitter again. Couldn't be arsed to make a second separate account for Minecraft.net's forums.

There's no tech support or sales support email just a run around data base.

I take it this is one of those games you buy when your weekly wages are so high you don't really care if the game works or not and how much you have to spend - "$30 plus is an easily affordable gamble..."
When it was in Alpha and Beta I bought this as a birthday present to myself and at that point it was in Euros, at like an equivalent of $16. I had a check and it's $27 USD for me too. You might check and see if there's separate versions of the website that would keep the price consistent for you.

In any case, don't buy Minecraft unless you have a plan of how to play it, and will have a lot of hours to waste.
Slight thread hijack but if you want zombies and crafting and (maybe mining.. I think the jury is still out on that one) you could always check out 7 Days to Die
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Bigs: Slight thread hijack but if you want zombies and crafting and (maybe mining.. I think the jury is still out on that one) you could always check out 7 Days to Die
Naw, I was messing around in VOX and Realm Explorer and they're not fleshed out yet and keep crashing because of being in alpha stage. I figured that Minecraft was the only finished version of this type of game so was just going to go for that.

I have ACE of Spades but I'm playing with a child who liked the exploration aspect of VOX and just digging out tunnels and homes.
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I just did the entire purchase process and it stays at 19.95 EUR no matter what (it stopped jumping around).
Strange... glad you got it for the price you wanted though
I bought two Minecrafts as gifts to two relative kids over a year ago. They love it and still play the games often, so I feel it was a money well spent.

I have two main complaints:

1. I had quite a lot of difficulties with the payment, so for a long time I was unable to buy at least the second copy. One of the payment screens was totally bugged out on all browsers I tried it, and Mojang pages told to contact Skrill support, which handled the payment. Skrill said there's nothing wrong at their end and it is the Mojang page which is bugged. And I don't think there was any option to contact Mojang support.

In the end I figured out with trial and error how to proceed (I had to put my credit card details _a second time_ to certain boxes on the screen where there was no description for the boxes), and the payment was successful.

And overall the whole payment process was quite complicated, I think I had to have a Skrill/Moneybookers account on top of Mojang account, etc.

2. I think the Mojang pages said the game is DRM-free. In my opinion that was a lie, you still have to authenticate the game once online when you install it, as long as I could tell (or then I misunderstood something). But after that you apparently could play it offline permanently.

So it had the most lightest known version of DRM known to mankind, one-time installation authentication. But DRM nonetheless. Which in this case I could live with I guess (as the kids wanted to play it online together anyway), but they still shouldn't have advertised it as DRM-free.

(I didn't try it, but I presume you couldn't just run the installer on a new PC and start playing offline, without connecting first to Mojang pages, at least to create an account first for the game?)
Post edited June 22, 2013 by timppu
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timppu: I bought two Minecrafts as gifts to two relative kids over a year ago. They love it and still play the games often, so I feel it was a money well spent.

I have two main complaints:

1. I had quite a lot of difficulties with the payment, so for a long time I was unable to buy at least the second copy. One of the payment screens was totally bugged out on all browsers I tried it, and Mojang pages told to contact Skrill support, which handled the payment. Skrill said there's nothing wrong at their end and it is the Mojang page which is bugged. And I don't think there was any option to contact Mojang support.

In the end I figured out with trial and error how to proceed (I had to put my credit card details _a second time_ to certain boxes on the screen where there was no description for the boxes), and the payment was successful.

And overall the whole payment process was quite complicated, I think I had to have a Skrill/Moneybookers account on top of Mojang account, etc.

2. I think the Mojang pages said the game is DRM-free. In my opinion that was a lie, you still have to authenticate the game once online when you install it, as long as I could tell (or then I misunderstood something). But after that you apparently could play it offline permanently.

So it had the most lightest known version of DRM known to mankind, one-time installation authentication. But DRM nonetheless. Which in this case I could live with I guess (as the kids wanted to play it online together anyway), but they still shouldn't have advertised it as DRM-free.

(I didn't try it, but I presume you couldn't just run the installer on a new PC and start playing offline, without connecting first to Mojang pages, at least to create an account first for the game?)
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-As it is now they accept Paypal (which I used)

-It's pretty DRM heavy considering that not only do you have to authenticate but first time running is when you pull down the actual game during authentication and I'm pretty sure it's scattered to the point that you can't back it up (Like an EA Origin game).

It's still a lot of fun and the neighor's child who we watch really enjoys it.
My partner's little nephew loves the game too so it's something to have when he comes to visit.

I am wondering, now - about MODs....what's the best texture MOD? And are there any other MODs that add a lot more to the game?
Post edited June 22, 2013 by carnival73
Speaking of mods, do they have proper mod support yet? Only reason I stopped playing was having to go through the hassle of finding working mods every time the game was patched =/

Personally I can't play the game with out a decent minimap/waypoint mod any more. But the one I used kept getting broken with each update.
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timppu: I bought two Minecrafts as gifts to two relative kids over a year ago. They love it and still play the games often, so I feel it was a money well spent.

I have two main complaints:

1. I had quite a lot of difficulties with the payment, so for a long time I was unable to buy at least the second copy. One of the payment screens was totally bugged out on all browsers I tried it, and Mojang pages told to contact Skrill support, which handled the payment. Skrill said there's nothing wrong at their end and it is the Mojang page which is bugged. And I don't think there was any option to contact Mojang support.

In the end I figured out with trial and error how to proceed (I had to put my credit card details _a second time_ to certain boxes on the screen where there was no description for the boxes), and the payment was successful.

And overall the whole payment process was quite complicated, I think I had to have a Skrill/Moneybookers account on top of Mojang account, etc.

2. I think the Mojang pages said the game is DRM-free. In my opinion that was a lie, you still have to authenticate the game once online when you install it, as long as I could tell (or then I misunderstood something). But after that you apparently could play it offline permanently.

So it had the most lightest known version of DRM known to mankind, one-time installation authentication. But DRM nonetheless. Which in this case I could live with I guess (as the kids wanted to play it online together anyway), but they still shouldn't have advertised it as DRM-free.

(I didn't try it, but I presume you couldn't just run the installer on a new PC and start playing offline, without connecting first to Mojang pages, at least to create an account first for the game?)
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-As it is now they accept Paypal (which I used)

-It's pretty DRM heavy considering that not only do you have to authenticate but first time running is when you pull down the actual game during authentication and I'm pretty sure it's scattered to the point that you can't back it up (Like an EA Origin game).

It's still a lot of fun and the neighor's child who we watch really enjoys it.
My partner's little nephew loves the game too so it's something to have when he comes to visit.

I am wondering, now - about MODs....what's the best texture MOD? And are there any other MODs that add a lot more to the game?
Loads of texture mods but they eat Ram

Try Misa's Texture mod

A few other good mods help you with items such as stone, glass etc, but I find they defeat the object of the game, so unless you just want a large lego set don't bother with item exploits

Here is a web site - search for Misa's texture pack

http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/69354-64x152-misas-realistic-texture-pack-updated-13mar2013/page__hl__%20misa

To make this work you will also need the patcher - link to that is on the same page
My kids play it on the XBOX and the amount of gameplay they get is worth more than the asking price imo. I think it was 20€ and they get more value out of it than a €50 game.
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timppu: (I didn't try it, but I presume you couldn't just run the installer on a new PC and start playing offline, without connecting first to Mojang pages, at least to create an account first for the game?)
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carnival73: -It's pretty DRM heavy considering that not only do you have to authenticate but first time running is when you pull down the actual game during authentication and I'm pretty sure it's scattered to the point that you can't back it up (Like an EA Origin game).
To answer both questions you can't make a totally new Minecraft installation without an internet connection but an existing installation will work offline forever and can be moved to other PCs without ever being re-authenticated, even going from Windows to Linux or whatever.

All the data, including the logged in state, is stored in the .minecraft folder, located in %APPDATA% on Windows, so with that plus the minecraft.exe/minecraft.jar launcher you're good to go on any system.
Post edited June 22, 2013 by Arkose
I tried playing this game, but I just couldn't get past the engine. I HATE Java, God it's so wonky and horrible for games, same goes for that zombie roguelike using Java, the game looks interesting but I couldn't get past the engine. They should try porting it to SDL or Unity, hell even Ogre would be better than Java.
Post edited June 22, 2013 by Crosmando
There are tons of texturepacks out there, a good plavce to start is here - http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1083479-15-texture-pack-central-texture-tips/

Personally I use Soartex Fanver at the moment.

Re. backing up the game. ASAIK all you need is to open the %appdata% folder and all files are in the .minecraft folder there. You just need to backup that folder and the executable you start minecraft with.
The Xbox versions of Minecraft don't use Java; it would be great if they ported those to PC but so far it looks like they're sticking with Java indefinitely.

That said Minecraft's performance and stability has increased with the last few updates, and the upcoming Horse Update (planned for release next week) apparently makes further technical advances by dropping some legacy support.

For those wanting to use Minecraft but not have Java installed you can accomplish this with jPortable and a shortcut, so the resulting launch path is something like:

D:\portableapps\Common\Java\bin\javaw.exe -jar D:\Minecraft\Minecraft.exe

...with the paths differing to reflect your system, of course. :) To update to newer Java versions simply download the newer jPortable installer.
Post edited June 22, 2013 by Arkose