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Posted June 06, 2011
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GameRager: <snip>
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Sielle: SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!













Remember at the end John-117 didn't die, he was put into cryo with the message "Wake me when I'm needed". A new threat could come about or the pod could crash near something he has to deal with.
Never finished Halo 3. Sadly. Or any game after it....I know about something called

SPOILERS


...the arc making the halo rings though and about the AI basically tripping the first mass extinction....but not much else.
Posted June 06, 2011
By the time you get to Game XYZ 4, it's mostly a matter of MOTS. "Ya know, this same exact gameplay worked in the first three installments, so MOTS oughta sell like hotcakes! This time, with even more realistic water effects!!!"

Bleh, it's really tough for me to get excited on the new stuff after growing up with the classics of the 80s and 90s - you know, the ones that created most of the genres in play today. Moreso as online play replaces decent AI.
Posted June 06, 2011
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Sogi-Ya: Maybe I have finally outgrown video games ...

--snip E3 disappointment--

WTF happened to putting effort into developing Video Games, WTF is left for me to be excited about? it's all shit, shit, shit, shit!
Are you sure you've really outgrown gaming? Sounds more like you're bored with mass market blockbuster video games.
Posted June 06, 2011
I agree with you on things like Halo.

But Skyrim? With the pretty significant graphical upgrade and the focus on the Nords with dragons? Can't say I get not being exciting for that if you even moderately liked the other Elder Scrolls games.
Post edited June 06, 2011 by Hawk52
Posted June 06, 2011
Here you go, your tired of gaming theme song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEFxfVyz4Uc
Posted June 06, 2011
ok, here are my complaints with Skyrim (some of them are admittedly kinda petty):

in order that I noticed them in the E3 video:
#1 there is no environmental animation (grass waving, trees shifting with the wind, the third person model clipped right through a bush) so the world looks pretty stale.

#2 despite the fact that it sounds cool, the dual welding looks awkward and kinda silly in parts (firing a staff with the left hand while swinging a sword with the right) and outright intrusive in others (I couldn't tell WTF was going on in the part where the character had two swords).

#3 the combat sucks, there was virtually no hit reactions from anything that the character was attacking (the undead, the mammoth, the Giant, the dragons ... none of it was actually registering hits) and while the flame spell was flashy at first I couldn't help but notice that it wasn't a stream of fire but instead was a bunch of flame "poofs" cast in rapid succession ... they also didn't feel like they had a real impact when they hit.

#4 enemy AI is still completely stupid, after sniping one of the two guys in the cave the other one just goes into combat mode and stands there until he gets shot too ... simply because your character is hidden and thus his ability to psychically home in on you the second his "hostile" state is triggered is turned off. how hard would it be to send a surprised enemy into a state of panic so that they run around randomly for a little bit, then go into combat mode and start retaliating? (that kind of AI actions have only been around since the days of Diablo.)

#5 that entire Dragon "fight" was scripted. from the moment it starts panning around as the giant and mammoths start walking into the valley, right up until the second dragon crashes and the character hops on it's back to kill it: S-C-R-I-P-T-E-D.

the only thing that wasn't scripted was when the character attacked the mammoth and pissed off the giant, but even if the character hadn't done that the Giant would have still gotten snatched up at that same moment in time. the reason why they did that was for dramatic flair, they hit the mammoth to piss off the giant and then started running backwards so you couldn't see the dragon incoming and were focused on the Giant, then -zoom- in comes the dragon and everyone is all "oooooh!"

I'd be a hell of a lot less judgmental if this thing had a release date of November 2012, but November 2011 is no where far enough away for these half-ass-eries to just be place holder elements for the demo. Given Bethshitia's MO on their games I have no reservations on taking this video as being highly indicative of the final gameplay.

I mean ... shit man, Kingdoms of Amalur has got more bang in it's combat and it's a fucking MMO retrofitted into being a single player lead in. Thats sad.

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compare Dark Messiah to Skyrim, no they are not the exact same type of game but they have highly similar types of combat and it's not too hard to find Skyrim lacking in comparison to a game from 2006.
Post edited June 06, 2011 by Sogi-Ya
Posted June 06, 2011
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Sogi-Ya: ok, here are my complaints with Skyrim (some of them are admittedly kinda petty):

in order that I noticed them in the E3 video:
#1 there is no environmental animation (grass waving, trees shifting with the wind, the third person model clipped right through a bush) so the world looks pretty stale.

#2 despite the fact that it sounds cool, the dual welding looks awkward and kinda silly in parts (firing a staff with the left hand while swinging a sword with the right) and outright intrusive in others (I couldn't tell WTF was going on in the part where the character had two swords).

#3 the combat sucks, there was virtually no hit reactions from anything that the character was attacking (the undead, the mammoth, the Giant, the dragons ... none of it was actually registering hits) and while the flame spell was flashy at first I couldn't help but notice that it wasn't a stream of fire but instead was a bunch of flame "poofs" cast in rapid succession ... they also didn't feel like they had a real impact when they hit.

#4 enemy AI is still completely stupid, after sniping one of the two guys in the cave the other one just goes into combat mode and stands there until he gets shot too ... simply because your character is hidden and thus his ability to psychically home in on you the second his "hostile" state is triggered is turned off. how hard would it be to send a surprised enemy into a state of panic so that they run around randomly for a little bit, then go into combat mode and start retaliating? (that kind of AI actions have only been around since the days of Diablo.)

#5 that entire Dragon "fight" was scripted. from the moment it starts panning around as the giant and mammoths start walking into the valley, right up until the second dragon crashes and the character hops on it's back to kill it: S-C-R-I-P-T-E-D.

the only thing that wasn't scripted was when the character attacked the mammoth and pissed off the giant, but even if the character hadn't done that the Giant would have still gotten snatched up at that same moment in time. the reason why they did that was for dramatic flair, they hit the mammoth to piss off the giant and then started running backwards so you couldn't see the dragon incoming and were focused on the Giant, then -zoom- in comes the dragon and everyone is all "oooooh!"

I'd be a hell of a lot less judgmental if this thing had a release date of November 2012, but November 2011 is no where far enough away for these half-ass-eries to just be place holder elements for the demo. Given Bethshitia's MO on their games I have no reservations on taking this video as being highly indicative of the final gameplay.

I mean ... shit man, Kingdoms of Amalur has got more bang in it's combat and it's a fucking MMO retrofitted into being a single player lead in. Thats sad.
I know a lot of people were unhappy with Oblivion, but it wasn't a bad game. The Elder Scrolls and Bethesda at large have a pretty good track record of delivering something of value. I can't see Skyrim being the exception to the rule.
Posted June 06, 2011
I loved Morrowind, hated Oblivion: bells and whistles to not make a game great.
Posted June 06, 2011
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Sogi-Ya: I loved Morrowind, hated Oblivion: bells and whistles to not make a game great.
If that's your stance then you pretty much should ignore mainstream gaming. Morrowind was the better game, but much harder to actually play. Oblivion held your hand and let you do whatever you wanted, but it also led itself to a much simpler and ultimately enjoyable ride for most people.

Morrowind beat Oblivion in all respects aside from ease of use and graphics. The quest system alone makes the game easier to play from Morrowind's journal. Skyrim's going to continue that trend.
Posted June 06, 2011
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Sogi-Ya: anything Kenect/Move/Wii is instantly skipped,
Hey now, don't lump in the motion control gimmick stuff with Mario/Zelda/Donkey Kong/[major Nintendo franchise], it isn't nice. /pout
Posted June 06, 2011
yeah, but all that came out years ago except for the other M and I stopped caring after seeing how Team Ninja turned Samus into a little bitch.

(yes I know that was mostly in the cinematics while the gameplay was good, but I still just couldn't get past it.)
Posted June 06, 2011
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Sogi-Ya: yeah, but all that came out years ago except for the other M and I stopped caring after seeing how Team Ninja turned Samus into a little bitch.

(yes I know that was mostly in the cinematics while the gameplay was good, but I still just couldn't get past it.)
So strong women can't have a weaker side? :P

:)
Posted June 06, 2011
I feel your frustration Sogi-Ya. Seems like the masterpieces have already been made, and we're just buying up a bunch of alterations of mashed up, already-used ideas. Games nowadays cater to the shorter attention spans of this generation, and apparently smaller brains considering the difficulty of most of them; both in terms of gameplay and decision-making.

The Witcher 2 was a great game to "plough" through, but still far from a masterpiece. To me, the 90's were the golden age of gaming, and I always find myself playing new games and wishing they were more like the classics. Most are all flash and little substance, dumbed down to the point where I feel like I'm barely using my brain. I'm playing Dead Space 2 right now and it feels like it was made for children, despite the swearing and gore.

"Press the Right Analog Stick to locate your objective." Seriously?? Why not just make the game a fucking rail shooter?

But alas, all hope is not lost. Indie developers are kicking plenty of ass these days, with games like Amnesia: The Dark Descent, Super Meat Boy and Minecraft. And there are so many excellent classics on PC and consoles to keep you busy until you're blind or dead, if you can get past the aging graphics. It's easy if you avoid looking at the latest games, or play games that are even older.
Posted June 07, 2011
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Sogi-Ya: yeah, but all that came out years ago except for the other M and I stopped caring after seeing how Team Ninja turned Samus into a little bitch.

(yes I know that was mostly in the cinematics while the gameplay was good, but I still just couldn't get past it.)
Mario Galaxy 2 and Donkey Kong Country Returns were both 2010 games.

Also, Team Ninja had absolutely nothing to do with the story iirc, and it was the fact that they spread the different components of the game around that made the execution fall flat. (Go back and play Fusion, it casts Samus very similarly)
Posted June 07, 2011
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Sogi-Ya: Maybe I have finally outgrown video games ...

I read through all these press releases and my reaction to most of them is "big fucking whoop."

I look at that Halo 4 trailer and I just can't muster up an once of enthusiasm: I despise that blue chick, I couldn't give a shit less about the games lore, and think that the entire design behind the "Master Chief" (that is a rank BTW, not a fucking name, it's kinda like naming a character "Sergent" or " Rear Admiral") was dated way back when the first game got plopped out.

I'm on pins and needles for Deus-Ex, I really want to see STALKER 2, ArcheAge is making me drool while I patently wait for Phantasy Star Online 2, but outside of that I really couldn't give a shit less about what has been said so far.

Skyrim looks like shit to me, I have never played the first 2 Farcry games, anything Kenect/Move/Wii is instantly skipped, after having participated in a real war all the modern / attempted to be realistic games make me want to puke ...

WTF happened to putting effort into developing Video Games, WTF is left for me to be excited about? it's all shit, shit, shit, shit!
90% of AAA games today are shit for PC gamers. As the guy below you said: Indie is our only salvation.
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