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Posted July 29, 2013
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Future_Suture: games that are not on GOG but are on Steam such as Amnesia: The Dark Descent
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SirPrimalform:
Damn, when did that happen? Finally!

Edit: Seemingly this past week. Cheeky buggers!
Post edited July 29, 2013 by Future_Suture
Posted July 29, 2013
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Future_Suture: Damn, when did that happen? Finally!

Edit: Seemingly this past week. Cheeky buggers!
Yeah, they took their time!
Posted July 29, 2013
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DRM_free_fan: I hate Steam too. I'll never buy any Steam games ever again. GOG from now on. That's all I had to say about this.

(+1 BTW for having the courage to start a Hate Steam thread. There are too many Steam lover threads on GOG. I wish the Steam supporters would return to the Steam forums where they all can enjoy a self delusional self congratulating thread about how nice Steam is) :P
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Cormoran: Personally I enjoy both Steam and GOG, I don't wish anyone to leave GOG and I have to wonder why you would.
Everyone wants to feel superior once in a while.
Posted July 29, 2013
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Future_Suture: Damn, when did that happen? Finally!

Edit: Seemingly this past week. Cheeky buggers!
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SirPrimalform: Yeah, they took their time!
I don't understand why, however. The game has been sold on other platforms free of DRM long before it was brought to GOG. Why did it take so long if selling the game free of DRM was not an issue?
Posted July 29, 2013
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DProject: 3. The most annoying thing of all: Booting up a game, especially for the 1st time, takes sometimes ages. It always seems to want to install something before starting up: that's why I prefer GOG every time if I can and the price between the providers is the same
I've been playing a lot of indies lately and I must admit that one is one of the f*cking worst thing I've ever experienced with Steam. It takes forever for the damn installation to detect they're already installed. Fortunately after one or two situations with these I now immediately go to the installation folder and delete them manually. Might screw something up like two of my games now loads a very quick session of directx or XNA but it's only for a split second then the game starts.

Speaking of games taking forever to start, game developers that find it acceptable to make intro movies and cutscenes unskippable hardcoded don't deserve their f*cking jobs. (I suppose publishers may force them due to marketing but they shouldn't need to make them hardcoded because of that)

/Rant done..
Posted July 29, 2013
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DProject: Steam's alright when you have a long library and want to keep everything organized. Also, a lot of games usually require it so there's not a whole lot you can do about it. Beats Uplay and Origin, at least.
Granted I have only a couple games on each, but Uplay and Origin have been pretty smooth for me. I haven't had problems getting any of the games installed or running. The one time I contacted EA support over something it went without an issue, which surprised me after some of the posts I've seen about them online.

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DProject: 3. The most annoying thing of all: Booting up a game, especially for the 1st time, takes sometimes ages. It always seems to want to install something before starting up: that's why I prefer GOG every time if I can and the price between the providers is the same.
I ran into this trying to install VVVVVV as a test game for checking how offline mode breaks. It stayed stuck on Installing for about 5 min before I force closed Steam, tried again, and got the same result. At that point I uninstalled/reinstalled Steam and it finally decided to work.

About a year ago I started getting most of the few AAA releases I've been interested in for my 360. For everything else I've stuck to GOG/Desura/Humble Store/Direct version and my overall hassles with gaming have gone way down.
Posted August 05, 2013
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DRM_free_fan: I hate Steam too. I'll never buy any Steam games ever again. GOG from now on. That's all I had to say about this.

(+1 BTW for having the courage to start a Hate Steam thread. There are too many Steam lover threads on GOG. I wish the Steam supporters would return to the Steam forums where they all can enjoy a self delusional self congratulating thread about how nice Steam is) :P
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Cormoran: Personally I enjoy both Steam and GOG, I don't wish anyone to leave GOG and I have to wonder why you would.

You might think your being supportive with such a statement but please think about what you're wishing for, you wish to exclude others at the expense of the very thing you claim to enjoy. If GOG is to thrive and become a true competitor to steam (this competition is good for us customers, particularly if GOG can remain a DRM free competitor) then they will see an ever increasing overlap with steams current customer base. Insulting these people and shooing them off will limit GOGs ability to grow.
You made some interesting points... and I realise my post has conveyed the wrong message.

I am not asking all Steam users to leave GOG - my bile is reserved for the Steamers who post threads on GOG about how much they love Steam. This really gets me. If they like Steam better than GOG - fine. But don't start threads on GOG forums about how good you think Steam is. It is insulting to GOG. (And upsets GOGers who have sworn off Steam for good).

P.S. I wasn't joking when I said I would never buy a Steam game again. I see a new game in the store that looks interesting, pick it up and check the back, oh Steam account required, sorry no longer interested, and walk away. Try it!

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Cormoran: Personally I enjoy both Steam and GOG, I don't wish anyone to leave GOG and I have to wonder why you would.
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Profanity: Everyone wants to feel superior once in a while.
Whatever. I hate Steam. Left and never looked back.

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DProject: ...as far as DRM goes, there have been worse offenders than Steam, which is why I really don't quite get the most hardcore and vocal anti-Steam users all the time.
Only "always online" DRM is worse. Not that is saying much.
Post edited August 05, 2013 by DRM_free_fan
Posted August 05, 2013
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DProject: 3. The most annoying thing of all: Booting up a game, especially for the 1st time, takes sometimes ages. It always seems to want to install something before starting up: that's why I prefer GOG every time if I can and the price between the providers is the same.
I can understand this point, if it's like Fictionvision above, and for some reason takes very long to install for no apparent reason.

However, beyond that, you're arguing you prefer a service where you have to download, manually install, and then play because the other service doesn't allow you to download and then play straight away without any form of install? There's almost always a first time setup when you start the game for the first time.
Posted August 05, 2013
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DProject: 3. The most annoying thing of all: Booting up a game, especially for the 1st time, takes sometimes ages. It always seems to want to install something before starting up: that's why I prefer GOG every time if I can and the price between the providers is the same.
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Pheace: I can understand this point, if it's like Fictionvision above, and for some reason takes very long to install for no apparent reason.

However, beyond that, you're arguing you prefer a service where you have to download, manually install, and then play because the other service doesn't allow you to download and then play straight away without any form of install? There's almost always a first time setup when you start the game for the first time.
Huh? I never said such a thing. Of course there's always the initial install and that is fine. What I meant by " It always seems to want to install something before starting up", is that even after tens of launches, an install message always greets me first. And it always something like Windows Framework or whatever.
Posted August 05, 2013
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DProject: Huh? I never said such a thing. Of course there's always the initial install and that is fine. What I meant by " It always seems to want to install something before starting up", is that even after tens of launches, an install message always greets me first. And it always something like Windows Framework or whatever.
Hmm, that does seem like something to complain about then, it's certainly not supposed to work that way.
Posted December 14, 2013
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Magmarock: It’s no secret that GOG.com often gets compared to Steam and it seems that a lot of people prefer Steam. Anther thing I’ve picked up on is that there seems to be some sort of taboo on criticizing Steam.

Forums.
Steam Forums are utter crap. First and foremost if you read the TOS you’ll find that you can be banned from the forums for just about anything. I found out the hard way when I posted a comment about regional pricing (which I’ll get into later) and got banned as a result. So I wouldn’t be surprised if someone got into trouble for pointing out that Valve haven’t really been doing anything for the past 5 years or so.

The forum structure of Steam is convoluted mess and it’s hard to keep track of topics.
With the GOG forums, it is very easy to keep track of topics. Not only that if you have a problem with a game, finding the solution is very easy. In fact I was surprised just how easily I could find the solution to some complicated problems.

So GOG gets another point for that one.

Regional Pricing
Finally, regional pricing, if you live in the US this isn’t much of a problem for you. If you don’t however, you maybe paying a lot more for a game then its’ worth because of how much the publisher thinks you owe them. Fortunately you can find out for yourself how much you’re being ribbed off by going here http://www.steamprices.com/us
However, before that site was set up, I did a little pocking and after I found myself having to pay an extra $80 USD for a game for no reason other then my region, I decided to take a screen shot as proof https://dl.dropbox.com/u/80908969/Both%20in%20US%20prices.png

After seeing this unconscionable display of greed I decided I was done with Steam.

On a final note I am fully aware that Valve doesn't control how publishers conduct busyness. However, they own Steam which makes Steam their responsibility. They are responsible for the polices that Steam bestows on it's customer as well as those looking to sell their product on Steam.

As it is Steam just plain sucks.
Still pretty relevant.
Posted December 14, 2013
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nijuu: Still pretty relevant.
I'll sat, this is still going. I was worried that it would just come off as preaching to the choir. Steam and Valve especially have been getting the better end of the stick for a while now and honestly I don't think it's deserved.
Posted December 14, 2013
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StingingVelvet: We need an anti-Steam emoticon!
That would do away with the need for these threads, wouldn't it? Brilliant!

I don't really care if people hate Steam. If you hate it, don't use it. If you want some game bad enough that are willing to use Steam, then you don't actually hate Steam as much as you say you do. Simple.

Cheers.
Posted December 14, 2013
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nijuu: Still pretty relevant.
You're just actively trying to push Steam controversy, don't you? You don't like Steam. We get it. Calm down man.

Besides, the first point is no longer relevant as Steam community was completely changed since the OP and the second point does remain relevant, and is not necessarily a bad thing.
Post edited December 14, 2013 by Fenixp
Posted December 14, 2013
you can always expect rage on steam from australian, japanese and german players , a lot of restrictions and cost issues for them but it is getting annoying to see the same people bash up on steam in every thread possible :\ have some positive outlook play some good games , cheerup man
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