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Posted January 10, 2012
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deelee74: There have been less than 10 games that have made me forget every other game ever made while I am playing through them. diablo ii was one of those games. I'll be buying Diablo 3 the minute it's released in the most evpensive version they sell it in.
People like you are the reason why big companies can throw any shit at us they want and still make money, really sad.
Post edited January 10, 2012 by redscores
Posted January 10, 2012
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Sogi-Ya: I know, I'm just venting about all the attention D3 is getting, simply because OMFG Blizact is releasing a "new" game and despite it obviously paling to pretty much every other Diablo derivative that has been released since 2001.

heh, I kinda figured this was a good place to preach to the choir ...
I like how Blizzard games are considered the pinnacle because they're addictive. By that measure ice cream is the pinnacle of food.
Posted January 10, 2012
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Aningan: I'll play Torchlight 2.
This.

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Posted January 10, 2012
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deelee74: There have been less than 10 games that have made me forget every other game ever made while I am playing through them. diablo ii was one of those games. I'll be buying Diablo 3 the minute it's released in the most evpensive version they sell it in.
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redscores: People like you are the reason why big companies can throw any shit at us they want and still make money, really sad.
explain
Posted January 10, 2012
They will buy of every genre that they liked before even though it looks horrible.

Diablo 3 looks pretty much like WoW now, the classes are pretty much wow classes (same stats, rage for the barbarian (warrior), energy for the rogue/monk (rogue and hunter) and of course mana for the sorceress.

Then additionally the ability of the barbarian... charge? WoW! exactly the same effect as the WoW charge (adds rage and stuns the enemy after charging)...

It is a carbon copy of WoW with Diablo Gameplay...

It is subclass game with a real money auction house that can be heavily abused by farmbots and awfully designed classes (seems to be the same mentality as wow...).

So yeah... hes just a sock puppet of the genre of a company that hasn't any identity anymore... starcraft becomes more and more C&C like, WoW becomes more and more "casualized" which fears away many customers (like me).

So yeah.... blind customers.
Posted January 10, 2012
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Runehamster: Seriously, I just typed an enormous response and figured out how to sum up what I wanted to say in one short paragraph, so I deleted it all. Heh.

A game should offer positive feedback when you do something right, as well as negative feedback when you do something wrong. It is possible to veer too much in either direction, but both are necessary. A lot of new games either take away most of the feedback (by making it nearly impossible to do ANYTHING your own way) or focus too much on one of the two. Demon's Souls was all about negative feedback, while Torchlight (in the form of experience and loot) was perhaps a bit too far on the positive feedback side.
I'll add to that and say that games should offer the right kind of positive feedback at the right times. It's utterly retarded (and for me, immersion-breaking) to have Steam suddenly say "Achievement Unlocked! You just finished Level 1!" at the start of a game. I think I've seen a game on Steam which gave you an achievement just for finishing the end-game cinematic, or the credits screen, or some such nonsense. The CoD/BF-style of gameplay parodied in Duty Calls also comes to mind here.

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StingingVelvet: People like you are the reason why big companies can throw any shit at us they want and still make money, really sad.
What's truly sad is that this is never going to go away. How many people said that they'd boycott Half-Life 2 over Valve's exclusive use of Steam, only to end up being the first in line to buy it on release? How many people said they'd boycott Modern Warfare 2 over its lack of dedicated servers, only to be the first in line to buy that on release?

I'd think that empirically only about 1/4 of the people who actually say that they want to boycott Diablo 3 are going to actually follow through on that. Boy, I sure hope I'm wrong on that (in a good way).

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redscores: It is a carbon copy of WoW with Diablo Gameplay...
Because it essentially is WoW with Diablo's gameplay. Someone else here on said it best when he said that people should stop thinking of Diablo as a single player RPG with an online element, and start thinking of it as an MMO with a token single-player campaign tacked on.

(Edit: Sorry, weird server issues and cut-and-paste problems here...)
Post edited January 10, 2012 by rampancy
Posted January 10, 2012
rampancy, exactly, and thats why Diablo 3 lost its identity, and people who buy it now because it is a "diablo game" just buy it because they are blind, because it is not a diablo game...
Posted January 10, 2012
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redscores: rampancy, exactly, and thats why Diablo 3 lost its identity, and people who buy it now because it is a "diablo game" just buy it because they are blind, because it is not a diablo game...
Eh, the moment they took LAN play and the singleplayer game out of it, I lost interest in ever playing it. If I wanted to play WoW I would already have an account.

I hadn't been following things closely enough to notice that it had become WoD, but that sounds about right, Blizzard has forgotten how to create a decent singleplayer experience after all these years. I think the last game they did that had one was WC3.
Posted January 10, 2012
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Gersen: If Blizzard was really that afraid that peoples are too retarded to understand that they can only use their offline character "offline" then they could have added a disclaimer while starting the game saying that if you decide to use a offline profile you won't be able to use it online later... you know kind of like of what they ALREADY did for Starcraft 2.
Blizzard abolished offline play because they want everyone to use the online auction house to get items.
Posted January 10, 2012
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DarkUltima: I have noticed people keep saying "I won't buy Diablo 3" instead of "I won't play Diablo 3"
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Barefoot_Monkey: What's wrong with that? If I have no intention of playing it then why should I buy it?

You're reading far too much into that phrase. "I won't buy X" does not imply or in any way suggest "I shall obtain X without buying it" - if anything that is a particularly unusual choice of words for someone who intends to pirate something. If you had read "won't pay for" I wouldn't blame at all you for jumping to conclusions, but even then that's still what you'd be doing.
When did I ever imply someone should buy it when they won't play it?

Regarding my reading into the phase: I'm cynical to all hell and have observed far too often people rationalizing that they didn't buy it and thusly are sending a message about DRM. Perhaps its just the people I find myself surrounded by outside of the GOG community that have deteriorated my faith in modern humanity. That is the reason I read into it. By all means, I'd be happy if people proved me wrong.
Posted January 10, 2012
hmm apparently blizz has now said it's coming to consoles... so diablo3 is a console port... another reason not to get it has appeared!
Posted January 10, 2012
Forget D3, wait for Grim Dawn. Looks good.

http://www.grimdawn.com/index.php

also, from their FAQ, FWIW:
Will Grim Dawn use DRM that TOTALLY screws me over?!
Our goal is to screw you over as little as possible with DRM. We don't plan to use any DRM in our direct downloadable version of the game. If we work out a distribution deal for a boxed copy with a publisher, they may have their own DRM requirements but it is something we will fight to avoid.

EDIT: Pre-alpha video from almost a year ago:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqGP4LT_cYo&feature=player_embedded
Post edited January 10, 2012 by strixo
Posted January 10, 2012
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wodmarach: hmm apparently blizz has now said it's coming to consoles... so diablo3 is a console port... another reason not to get it has appeared!
Just because it's coming to consoles doesn't mean that it will necessarily be a console port (which implies that the game was developed for consoles and then moved to the PC, rather than vice versa). This is the sort of attitude that has earned us the hatred we get from console gamers.
Posted January 10, 2012
I want that grim dawn *drools*...

I want it real bad goddamnit! :D
Posted January 10, 2012
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wodmarach: hmm apparently blizz has now said it's coming to consoles... so diablo3 is a console port... another reason not to get it has appeared!
You're a moron.
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