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does not bother me I'm still buying it I love Starcraft 2
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Lorfean: You make a good point. Diablo III is definitely more restrictive in those ways. And although it doesn't bother me, because the game still very much fits the mold of what I look for in a Diablo game, I can imagine it bothers those to whom freedom in those aspects of the game are more important. Each to his own, I guess.
Yup, let's agree to that. :) I can see your point too. It would be nice if Blizzard saw both perspectives as well, and continued to cater to both of them, but apparently they're taking a different route now. But it's not that big of a deal for me; as I said, I have enough games that cater more to my preferences. Foregoing Diablo 3 won't be a big loss for me; of course it also means that Blizzard will not be able to capitalize on the business opportunity that does exist in my wallet. While I will be playing those other games, I wish you fun with Diablo 3. :)
Always online sucks for sure. I will definitely wait for a lower price point.
Loved Diablo 2, but more than likely won't get Diablo 3. It looks like it could be ok despite the obvious flaws (RMAH, art style, always online, etc) but somehow I'm just not interested in it at all.
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Pustako: Yeah I would need to upgrade my rig for D3, plus the game itself won't be cheap... And I feel I am not quite done yet with D2, there are several mods I would still like to play. So for now it's a pass for me.
is it possible to ever be done with Diablo II?

@everyone else

what's the real money auction house, and why is it so bad?
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Pustako: Yeah I would need to upgrade my rig for D3, plus the game itself won't be cheap... And I feel I am not quite done yet with D2, there are several mods I would still like to play. So for now it's a pass for me.
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jefequeso: is it possible to ever be done with Diablo II?

@everyone else

what's the real money auction house, and why is it so bad?
Basically it means Diablo III will be an online single/multiplayer full-price retail video game with built-in item shop (microtransactions) model to support its online part (just like all these free-to-play games, such as Runes of Magic, Forsaken World, Lord of the Rings Online etc.).
Post edited January 10, 2012 by Pustako
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Tormentfan: Not buying it either.. but it won't matter, there will be enough stupid people that aren't able to recognise anti consumer behaviour that will buy it.
Well, it sure is fun being a stupid person. :)
Anybody with a beta key that doesn't want to play the game?
Post edited January 10, 2012 by kavazovangel
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DarkUltima: I have noticed people keep saying "I won't buy Diablo 3" instead of "I won't play Diablo 3"

First, I agree that the Online requirement is annoying, second I hate the real money auction house idea for a few reasons.

However that people are actually admitting they're going to pirate the game strikes me as utterly stupid. You disagree with the DRM model they're going to use. To fight it you're going to Pirate their game, which will only serve to Validate their ideology. And you're only going to fool yourself into buying it later doing that. Because you'll play it and if you like it you'll probably want to have access to all the updates and to multiplayer and everything else. So you'll buy it. And then bam, you've managed to validate the company's draconian idea of how much they can control their customers, while giving them money to enable them.

I won't be buying the game or playing it. And I could care less about the opinion that "they'll never notice if you're the only one" because I have my standards, and I can hold the smug opinion that I'm at least doing my part to display I won't accept this bullshit.
Correcting my statement. I won't play it either. Period.
I'm skipping Diablo 3 as well. I don't like almost all of new "features" like orbs, like automatically growing atributes, new skill tree is just dumb.

Not to mention what many of you mentioned before about real money market.
I'm probably not going to buy it either. Ever since I quit WoW I've just lost interest in everything from blizzard. I guess the game just burnt me out on the company as a whole.
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Vestin: I am going to buy Diablo 3 and play the hell out of it. Which is no surprise, considering it's a Blizzard game. The character archetypes are so alluring, the setting so grim, the abilities so powerful, the twisted corridors so random...
Hell - I might even play with others at some point, though I'd prefer to go through the game alone the first (few) time(s). Fortunately - I can change my mind at any point, thanks to how the game's designed :).
It's been probably ten years since one could buy a Blizzard game and assume that it was going to be good. The last good game they put out was Warcraft 3. At this point, I have no confidence in them seeing as they're priorities are esports and not making fun games.

Plus, they used to be pretty progressive with the spawning and minimal DRM, LAN play was absolutely amazing back in the day, but they've stripped that completely for reasons that only make sense if you're wasted. Some of us have no interest in ever going online and would be more than happy to create a new player if we changed our minds, we don't need Blizzard deciding that we really do want to play online.
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Kunovski: I've played Starcraft and Brood Wars and it was quite okay... Then I played Starcraft II and it was awesome!

I've played Warcraft 1, 2 and 3 and it was awesome! Then I played World of Warcraft and it sucked...

I've played Diablo 1 and 2 and it was awesome! So I'm kind of worried about D3... (but will buy it anyways ;)
Really? Because they didn't do anything in SC2 that they hadn't done in SC other than lock the thing down and nerf the hell out of LAN play. Over all the experience when I loaded it up was meh, incredibly, incredibly meh.

I just didn't get the feeling that I got when I loaded up all those great games in the past. Or even more contemporary games like FO:NV or DNF. It just felt like Blizzard had chucked the singleplayer game under the bus to focus on esports and they're on record saying as much.
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Gonchi: I had some mild interest in it about three years ago, but that interest has waned with each new piece of info. But then, I didn't like Diablo and I outright skipped Diablo 2, so...
You really ought to play Diablo 2, it's a much more interesting game in general than Diablo was, plus if you get Lord of Destruction there's an interesting mod out there that you can get, unfortunately it's a bit of a challenge to install these days.
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Tormentfan: Not buying it either.. but it won't matter, there will be enough stupid people that aren't able to recognise anti consumer behaviour that will buy it.
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kavazovangel: Well, it sure is fun being a stupid person. :)
Anybody with a beta key that doesn't want to play the game?
And you would probably say that about SC2, but when they opened up a portion for free I realized just how lucky I was not to have wasted my money on such a poorly executed turd.

People do have differing tastes, but it doesn't bode well when the developer goes on record about choosing to make an esport game at the expense of making a fun game.
Post edited January 10, 2012 by hedwards
It's more that there is no singleplayer rather than singleplayer requiring you being online. Yes you can solo it, but you can solo WoW too.

Anyway, these games don't really do much for me so it's no big deal for me to skip D3.
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hedwards: People do have differing tastes, but it doesn't bode well when the developer goes on record about choosing to make an esport game at the expense of making a fun game.
Wonderful, developers should do that more often! :p
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DarkUltima: I have noticed people keep saying "I won't buy Diablo 3" instead of "I won't play Diablo 3"
What's wrong with that? If I have no intention of playing it then why should I buy it?

You're reading far too much into that phrase. "I won't buy X" does not imply or in any way suggest "I shall obtain X without buying it" - if anything that is a particularly unusual choice of words for someone who intends to pirate something. If you had read "won't pay for" I wouldn't blame at all you for jumping to conclusions, but even then that's still what you'd be doing.
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kavazovangel: Well, it sure is fun being a stupid person. :)
Well you'd certainly know better than I.