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Posted November 30, 2012
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gameon: I understand now, it's because Kristian was making prophecies about DRM free dying out, hence "the sky is falling" reference from chicken little.
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bevinator: It really wasn't directed at him personally, but rather at the thread as a whole. We've got 700 posts so far, and about 600 of them are about the DRM situation rather than the bundle itself.

Yes, it's worrying, but I'm willing to let it slide if it's a one-time (or at least rare) occurrence. We won't know until the next bundle or an official press release, but I'm not at all convinced that they've given up their DRM stance, only compromised it because THQ is in trouble.
Yeah, there are rumours that THQ are in financial trouble. I agree with you about the arguing also. To be honest i haven't bought the bundle because i'd rather not buy drm games. It's nothing more than that, it's something i wouldn't argue with people about.

If gaming goes fully DRM then it will be a shame. But for now (in the present) we are fine, so there's nothing for us all to worry about.
Posted November 30, 2012
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DraculaMarth: Bad PR from kicking a dying company while it's down+Acting Smugly superior
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Kristian: Which is good when you are superior. But Humble Bundle is no longer superior but inferior. So it wouldn't be bad PR at all.
So it's alright to be an asshole and act holier than THQ when it means you look superior.

Guess you learn something new every day
Posted November 30, 2012
I don't think DRM free, cross platform bundles of Indie games are in any risk. I don't expect any future bundle involving a publisher, provided there are more, and I think there will be, to be any different than this one though.
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Posted November 30, 2012
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Kristian: There is nothing wrong with standing up for principles.
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Fenixp: There's a lot wrong with extremism.
Oh come on now, you and I might not see the wisdom in it but avoiding all DRM and being disappointed a DRM free website switches to using DRM is not "extremism."

Edit: Never mind, he is getting a little wacky.
Post edited November 30, 2012 by StingingVelvet
Posted November 30, 2012
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gameon: Yeah, there are rumours that THQ are in financial trouble.
Unfortunately it's well past rumors. THQ is about two steps away from declaring bankruptcy.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203347104578101432398737550.html
Posted November 30, 2012
I originally posted this as an edit to another post, may not have been the best way to go:

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Kristian: I understand now, it's because Kristian was making prophecies about DRM free dying out, hence "the sky is falling" reference from chicken little.

Gameon, I did no such thing.
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gameon: Well from reading others posts they were making it sound as if you were saying that because of the THQ bundle, it lessens the chance of future DRM free bundles.

Of course, feel free to explain what your point is.
Well it may or may not lessen the chance of future bundles of that kind but those bundles will now have to rely on games that are already DRM free and cross-platform because Humble Bundle Inc threw out there bargaining chip for getting more companies to agree to porting their games and making them DRM free, now those companies will want to get the same treatment as THQ.
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Fenixp: There's a lot wrong with extremism.
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StingingVelvet: Oh come on now, you and I might not see the wisdom in it but avoiding all DRM and being disappointed a DRM free website switches to using DRM is not "extremism."

Edit: Never mind, he is getting a little wacky.
Can you quote just one wacky thing I said?
Post edited November 30, 2012 by Kristian
Posted November 30, 2012
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gameon: Yeah, there are rumours that THQ are in financial trouble.
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kodeen: Unfortunately it's well past rumors. THQ is about two steps away from declaring bankruptcy.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203347104578101432398737550.html
I don't understand how it could happen. But i guess if Atari and Take 2 can have money problems, so can THQ.
Posted November 30, 2012
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StingingVelvet: Oh come on now, you and I might not see the wisdom in it but avoiding all DRM and being disappointed a DRM free website switches to using DRM is not "extremism."
(you might also have missed this: http://www.gog.com/forum/general/humble_thq_bundle_is_live/post300)
Posted November 30, 2012
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gameon: I don't understand how it could happen. But i guess if Atari and Take 2 can have money problems, so can THQ.
Their financial problems are nothing new, the real surprise is that they manage to survive for this long.
Posted November 30, 2012
Not that I care a great deal one way or the other, but...
Arjan Adriaanse Humble Bundle was meant to promote indie, DRM-free and cross-platform games. People who think we should not complain about this bundle seem to only care about getting cheap games.
What makes them think the majority of people who get humble bundles aren't just interested in cheap games?

Based on the info here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humble_Indie_Bundle#List_of_games_offered
Out of twenty bundles, only one has an average price above $10, and that was the eBook bundle.

Hate to break it to the idealists and to smug old TB, but yeah, a large number of gamers do only care about getting games cheaply. Why else would there be such spikes in sales and profits when Steam offers stuff for very low prices?
Posted November 30, 2012
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StingingVelvet: Oh come on now, you and I might not see the wisdom in it but avoiding all DRM and being disappointed a DRM free website switches to using DRM is not "extremism."
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amok: (you might also have missed this: http://www.gog.com/forum/general/humble_thq_bundle_is_live/post300)
I edited, read above.
Posted November 30, 2012
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amok: (you might also have missed this: http://www.gog.com/forum/general/humble_thq_bundle_is_live/post300)
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StingingVelvet: I edited, read above.
ah ok, ignore then.
Post edited November 30, 2012 by amok
Posted November 30, 2012
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StingingVelvet: Oh come on now, you and I might not see the wisdom in it but avoiding all DRM and being disappointed a DRM free website switches to using DRM is not "extremism."
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amok: (you might also have missed this: http://www.gog.com/forum/general/humble_thq_bundle_is_live/post300)
Yep that post shows that I am not somekind of DRM free only wacko, that you guys are so desperately trying to make me into.
Posted November 30, 2012
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gameon: I don't understand how it could happen. But i guess if Atari and Take 2 can have money problems, so can THQ.
The biggest issue was Udraw, which was a hardware accessory they tried to release for all the platforms. They invested heavily in it and it tanked badly.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UDraw_GameTablet

After that, it's just been that sales hasn't been where they need to be, especially for Darksiders 2. It was expensive to make, expensive to advertise and they just didn't make the money back on that.
Posted November 30, 2012
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kodeen: The biggest issue was Udraw, which was a hardware accessory they tried to release for all the platforms. They invested heavily in it and it tanked badly.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UDraw_GameTablet

After that, it's just been that sales hasn't been where they need to be, especially for Darksiders 2. It was expensive to make, expensive to advertise and they just didn't make the money back on that.
This shit is still all on them though. Expecting Darksiders 2 to sell more than 2 million copies at full price was stupid. Investing in Udraw was stupid. Capitalism works when companies doing stupid things go out of business.
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