Posted November 30, 2012
StingingVelvet
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Oriza-Triznyák
garbage features like achievements.
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Kristian
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Posted November 30, 2012
The Humble Bundle used to be a huge driving force, bringing lots of new games to Linux that otherwise weren't coming. That will now stop completely. The same can be said with DRM free games. Future bundles will only ever have DRM free games that were going to be DRM anyway and Linux games that were coming to Linux anyway.
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Posted November 30, 2012
Nobody said there will be any extra games added....
Kristian
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kalirion
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garbage features like achievements.
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Posted November 30, 2012
And how do you know that multi-platform and DRM-free doesn't remain a requirement for HIB? If you didn't notice, this is not a HIB, it's a THQ bundle. It doesn't even try to act as if it is a regular indie bundle. And... Heh, "the evil THQ destroying all those developers, bastards!" As far as I've seen, THQ was one of the few publishers that wasn't afraid to experiment, to take risks, and to get out games no one else was brave enough to. And if THQ goes under, a looot of people are going to lose their jobs. But I suppose that is a good thing, especially now during financial crisis and job opportunities getting thinner and thinner, right? Because hey, multiplatform DRM-free games are more important than that! Who cares about people as long as we can play Darksiders on Linux!
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Posted November 30, 2012
kalirion: Not sure if already posted, but a HumbleBundle spokesman had this to tell RPS:
That is completely, totally and utterly unreassuring.When THQ expressed interest in our pay what you want plus charity model and willingness to let us bundle so many top tier titles, we couldn’t believe it at first,” the rep explained to RPS. “But trying to turn up our noses at this epic chance to make gamers happy and help worthy causes like Child’s Play and the American Red Cross could only have been defined as arrogance. We had to try and we were extremely curious to see what would happen.
So far, it’s been pretty well received: we’re on record pace both in total sales and number of purchases. It looks like we’ve passed the two million dollar mark in just 16 hours. We are hopeful that this excitement is growing our community in a way that can only help our future promotions, and rest assured that indie bundles will continue to be an important part of our business.
kalirion: So far, it’s been pretty well received: we’re on record pace both in total sales and number of purchases. It looks like we’ve passed the two million dollar mark in just 16 hours. We are hopeful that this excitement is growing our community in a way that can only help our future promotions, and rest assured that indie bundles will continue to be an important part of our business.
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Posted November 30, 2012
SirPrimalform: Yes! Although I'm not feeling quite as doomy and gloomy about it as Kristian, I do think this has weakened HB bargaining power in terms of getting developers to remove their DRM. I do think they will convince further developers, but perhaps not as many as if they hadn't done this bundle. =(
Kristian: Which is exactly my position. Mostly likely they will only "convince" thus who are already convinced. So this will hurt DRM free, cross-platform gaming. You think only developers whose minds don't need changing will consent to DRM-free versions.
Fenixp: And how do you know that multi-platform and DRM-free doesn't remain a requirement for HIB? If you didn't notice, this is not a HIB, it's a THQ bundle. It doesn't even try to act as if it is a regular indie bundle. And... Heh, "the evil THQ destroying all those developers, bastards!" As far as I've seen, THQ was one of the few publishers that wasn't afraid to experiment, to take risks, and to get out games no one else was brave enough to. And if THQ goes under, a looot of people are going to lose their jobs. But I suppose that is a good thing, especially now during financial crisis and job opportunities getting thinner and thinner, right? Because hey, multiplatform DRM-free games are more important than that! Who cares about people as long as we can play Darksiders on Linux!
The point is that DRM-free and cross platform used to be a requirement for all Humble Bundles not just Humble Indie Bundles.Post edited November 30, 2012 by SirPrimalform
Kristian
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Posted November 30, 2012
Kristian: It is the Linux and DRM free debuts I care about, with the exceptions of particularly passionate cross-platform and DRM free developers NO more developers will debut their games as cross-platform and DRM free in future HIB's.
Fenixp: And how do you know that multi-platform and DRM-free doesn't remain a requirement for HIB? If you didn't notice, this is not a HIB, it's a THQ bundle. It doesn't even try to act as if it is a regular indie bundle. And... Heh, "the evil THQ destroying all those developers, bastards!" As far as I've seen, THQ was one of the few publishers that wasn't afraid to experiment, to take risks, and to get out games no one else was brave enough to. And if THQ goes under, a looot of people are going to lose their jobs. But I suppose that is a good thing, especially now during financial crisis and job opportunities getting thinner and thinner, right? Because hey, multiplatform DRM-free games are more important than that! Who cares about people as long as we can play Darksiders on Linux! But I suppose that is a good thing, especially now during financial crisis and job opportunities getting thinner and thinner, right?
Yes, market corrections are a good thing in the long run. Why should the incompetent managers at THQ get to control all those human resources. It would be better if THQ went through bankruptcy preceding so that it could be restructured and come out as a better, stronger and healthier company. That will create MORE jobs in the long run.StingingVelvet
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Kristian
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Posted November 30, 2012
StingingVelvet: Their focus from now on will certainly be pay what you want sales more than anything else. Whether that is good or bad depends on your perspective.
Yeah that will be their focus and that is bad. Now they are just another souless, moneygrabbing company abusing charties to get $$$. About the whole chartiy thing, this article linked previously in this thread was actually written by one of the guys running one of the two charities this is benefiting: http://penny-arcade.com/report/editorial-article/the-humble-thq-bundle-loses-indie-games-adds-drm-and-is-a-ste p-backward-for
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Posted November 30, 2012
Kristian: It may remain a rule on paper but they could never enforce it in practice against devs who's games aren't already DRM free and cross-platform or headed their(with the exceptions I noted).
Of course they can enforce it, they're the ones who choose what to sell! Kristian: Yes, market corrections are a good thing in the long run. Why should the incompetent managers at THQ get to control all those human resources. It would be better if THQ went through bankruptcy preceding so that it could be restructured and come out as a better, stronger and healthier company. That will create MORE jobs in the long run.
Yes, kind of like if they don't change their act now. If they do, we get rid of incompetent managers and peple get to keep their jobs. Everybody wins. But I still like how your priorities seem to be in bloody videogames instead of in charities this'll help raise money for and, potentially (altho unlikely) people who might just keep their jobs. Hold onto those priorities in life. They'll make you a better person.