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Posted November 30, 2012
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xyem: [1] Shame on you if you didn't hear it in The Voice :P
Then they broke their principle before. Either way, I win :P.

*llalalalalalalallalalalala* can't hear you.
Posted November 30, 2012
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kodeen: Wow, melodrama.

We're talking about Humble Bundle and THQ here, not Judas and Pontius Pilate. Let's try to keep a little perspective.
Whassup?
Post edited November 30, 2012 by JudasIscariot
Posted November 30, 2012
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kodeen: Wow, melodrama.

We're talking about Humble Bundle and THQ here, not Judas and Pontius Pilate. Let's try to keep a little perspective.
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JudasIscariot: Whassup?
Hello there; do you still go by the fixed price of 30 pieces, or you joined the "pay what you want" bandwagon?!
Posted November 30, 2012
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SimonG: Then they broke their principle before. Either way, I win :P.
Which principle and when?
Posted November 30, 2012
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JudasIscariot: Whassup?
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Antaniserse: Hello there; do you still go by the fixed price of 30 pieces, or you joined the "pay what you want" bandwagon?!
Cash or charge, no checks though :P
Posted November 30, 2012
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ginsengsamurai: /sigh

I don't think you understand my original message. Why would you assume I am trying to do something that is against the ToS in the first place.

KEY WORD: "Wish they..."

It was a casual statement. Take it casually and please try not to read into it so much and make a deal out of absolutely nothing.

Since my "WISH" will never come true, it doesn't matter anyway. Boom, done, move on. More HB in the future to buy! Casual statements... Eg: WISH this ketchup tasted less like mustard.
It might be because I am not a native english speaker, but I am getting some mixed messages here...

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ginsengsamurai: I bought the bundle. Wish they didn't combine most of the games into one Steam Key. I wanted to give away the CoH games. -_-
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ginsengsamurai: I wasn't going to share the games. I was going to give away the three CoH games/expansions to one person.
in other words, the only reason you did not do it is because HB made it not possible for you to do so. If they had been given out separate keys, you would by now have shared them out. Please tell me I am wrong...
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SimonG: Then they broke their principle before. Either way, I win :P.
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xyem: Which principle and when?
Apparently, they already have a few Steam only games in the Humble Store. Is that one of them?
Post edited November 30, 2012 by amok
Posted November 30, 2012
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Zirun: Making a game DRM-free and cross-platform isn't something you decide on a whim. It's something you commit to from the beginning. If you decide later to do so, it costs a lot of time and money to fix, update, and test.

THQ is a AAA game creator. The games cost millions of dollars to produce and update. They're also a struggling company. Making their games cross-platform (and possibly DRM-free, as I don't know exactly the details about whether or not Steam has consolidated code for developers to use or whatever) would cost millions of dollars that they literally can't afford. There's no way, unless the games were already cross-platform, for THQ to make them so in their current situation.

Humble also happens to be by far the best-known bundle creator. They didn't choose to make the Humble THQ Bundle on a whim. The guys at Humble are also caring people, realizing that THQ needs help to keep afloat, and that they are probably the best option THQ has.

So either Humble rigidly adheres to the rules they have and the Humble THQ Bundle doesn't happen, or they make an exception to help a struggling company that delivers games everybody loves. I don't see why they would or should indiscriminately apply their rules to everybody in every situation, since every situation is different.
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Endzville: Said it best. The over-reaction here is outstanding and the attitude quite frankly disgusting in some cases.

Maybe I'm wrong and they'll have a similar bundle in the future but I would be very surprised if it wasn't with at least some good intentions like this - i.e. supporting a developer who desperately need the help.

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Kristian: Zirun, other development studios have done just that after being required to in order to be in a HIB. Like Double Fine Productions with Psychonauts. The game didn't have a Linux version before it was in the HIB, I don't think it was DRM free either before that. But they made that happen for the HIB, now no developer will make that happen because of the HIB.
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Endzville: You miss the point of what he said. Do you think Psychonauts was brought to Linux and lost its DRM overnight? Of course not - it was planned well in advance of the bundle's release. As Zirun said, these things aren't decided on a whim. They take time and money, things that THQ unfortunately do not have.
The decision may well have been done well in advance but that was because of the bundle, now we will cease getting any new games like that. Going forward all the game going forward that will be DRM and cross-platform in these bundles will have been so before being approached by the Bundle. From this point on we will cease getting cross-platform, DRM free debuts and that is bad, very very very bad :(
Posted November 30, 2012
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timppu: But GOG is still refusing to sell games that fight against their principles (like games requiring online authentication), which makes me respect them even more.

I'd find it silly to say "It doesn't make me respect the other shop more even if they still reject to sell sweatshop products, while the other doesn't."
So... GOG can have a slipup but Humble Bundle can't?

Did we forget that when Witcher 2 came out it was not only regionally restricted but regionally priced, *and* had you log in to activate?

How is that any different? It's amazing to me how much people can complain about what probably is the humble bundle helping a developer in need. It's not like the next bundle is likely to be all Steam keys, no doubt it'll be DRM free and multiplatform.
Post edited November 30, 2012 by Pheace
Posted November 30, 2012
Hmm, maybe I should 'get' (how, I leave to everyones own imagination ;-)) DRM free version versions of bundle games and send 10$ donation to EFF...
Posted November 30, 2012
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Petrell: Hmm, maybe I should 'get' (how, I leave to everyones own imagination ;-)) DRM free version versions of bundle games and send 10$ donation to EFF...
Red Cross this time.
Posted November 30, 2012
Okay, HIB- guys, we heard you.
We proudly announce the POMP bundle, because from now on we will buy all bundles and Pay Only Minimum Price.
We can break principles too.
Posted November 30, 2012
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keeveek: THQ is a publisher, not a dev.
Because THQ are a half decent publisher who isnt called EA
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keeveek: Really? Because now people perceive them as the only publisher in the world, that is so stubborn than even hanging on a cliff of bankruptcy they just refuse to make their games DRM Free

How they are better than EA in this conclusion?
EA has released a bunch of DRM free games, namely on this very site we are posting. THQ hasn't. That makes EA better by far and that is saying A LOT.
Posted November 30, 2012
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Petrell: Hmm, maybe I should 'get' (how, I leave to everyones own imagination ;-)) DRM free version versions of bundle games and send 10$ donation to EFF...
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amok: Red Cross this time.
Reread my post carefully and contemplate about the 'get' DRM free portion ("the greedy moneyleecher bundle" is Steam only if you did not notice) and realise what I tought about doing. ;-)
Posted November 30, 2012
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timppu: But GOG is still refusing to sell games that fight against their principles (like games requiring online authentication), which makes me respect them even more.

I'd find it silly to say "It doesn't make me respect the other shop more even if they still reject to sell sweatshop products, while the other doesn't."
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Pheace: So... GOG can have a slipup but Humble Bundle can't?

Did we forget that when Witcher 2 came out it was not only regionally restricted but regionally priced, *and* had you log in to activate?

How is that any different?
It wouldn't be any different, if you are really suggesting that Humble Bundle (store) will fix the situation and re-release these THQ games DRM-free. If it is really true in the first place that the GOG version of Witcher 2 originally required you to authenticate the game online, and intentionally too.

According to my google-fu, it wasn't at least intentional, if it really happened that is:

http://www.gamepolitics.com/2011/03/14/gog-gets-witcher-2-drm-free-exclusive#.ULiZfzPD7Js

And wasn't the "regional pricing" of the GOG version refunded in a form of free store credits?

Anyway, if GOG willingly and intentionally deviates from principles that they have claimed to stand for, and that matter to me personally, then yes, certainly that will make me respect GOG less. That's no rocket science.
Post edited November 30, 2012 by timppu
Posted November 30, 2012
Games requiring steam for multiplayer = DRM

Games requiring CD keys for multiplayer = NO DRM ?

How does it make sense?
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