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Posted November 30, 2012
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jamyskis: I'm not sure what planet you're living on, but no 'average gamer' that I've ever encountered or know actually praises Steam.
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Pheace: Are we to take from this you have a small or limited social circle?
Gamers? In a social circle?
Posted November 30, 2012
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SimonG: If you ask the average gamer today if he wants the Steam package or DRM free, he will go Steam, even if given the choice. Steam as a service has become so important to many, that the DRM free aspect has become secondary. DRM free has no benefits to the average gamer. A game needs an online activation? Who on earth does not at least have simple internet connection. If you don't have internet, you are no longer part of the market (which is the least of the problems if you don't have internet. Because in this day and age, internet is vital). I don't see people complaining that the HB doesn't run on Win 95....
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jamyskis: I'm not sure what planet you're living on, but no 'average gamer' that I've ever encountered or know actually praises Steam.

More or less everyone I know sees it either fairly ambivalently, as a 'necessary evil' or hates it. I know just one person who praises Steam, and he is truly a PC extremist that denounces anyone who plays on consoles as retards and is a truly unpleasant person indeed (but I have to work with him, unfortunately).
You have got to be kidding me. You've never seen people bitch when a game isn't available on steam? You've never heard somebody say " no steam no buy?"
Post edited November 30, 2012 by CaptainGyro
Posted November 30, 2012
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jamyskis: No.
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Antaniserse: Then an alien from Mars, maybe?
So the sole response to me reporting my experience is a back-handed personal insult?

Gotcha. I think this discussion is at an end.
Posted November 30, 2012
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CaptainGyro: And unlike a few others, I don't suddenly feel a lot more respect for gog now. They aren't selling these games drm free either, or selling games where most of the money can go to charity.
But GOG is still refusing to sell games that fight against their principles (like games requiring online authentication), which makes me respect them even more.

I'll even give you a free analogy: two clothing stores claim the clothes they sell are not made in sweatshops with poor working conditions. Suddenly one of them starts selling such clothes as well, while the other still decides to keep their principles.

I'd find it silly to say "It doesn't make me respect the other shop more even if they still reject to sell sweatshop products, while the other doesn't."
Posted November 30, 2012
I just got me the whole set of games, its the first i have ever heard of this website but i will be keeping an eye out for it in future. What a great bundle of games! Thanks all for the heads up.
Posted November 30, 2012
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Pheace: Are we to take from this you have a small or limited social circle? There's plenty of people out there who are perfectly happy with what Steam offers them. And yes, they're generally in the same group that don't let things like it not being 'DRM-free' bother them. They just get their game and play it, their game stays patched and they're happy. It's that simple.
Many people of my age, who stopped gaming in the early '00s (some of them, quite ironically, because of Steam, but most of them for other reasons), have now come back to gaming because of Steam.
Posted November 30, 2012
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CaptainGyro: And unlike a few others, I don't suddenly feel a lot more respect for gog now. They aren't selling these games drm free either, or selling games where most of the money can go to charity.
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timppu: But GOG is still refusing to sell games that fight against their principles (like games requiring online authentication), which makes me respect them even more.
Well selling games with drm here would be business suicide, because that's their main selling point now. Personally I don't see any reason to respect them more for simply trying to stay in business
Posted November 30, 2012
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Fictionvision: Also couldn't they have spent a bit of time to get steam free exes for the games? Or maybe the bandwidth costs would have been too much from people getting them off humble's site.
They normally provide also torrent download links for the Windows (or Android) standalone installers, meaning the bandwidth costs would not be a problem.

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Fictionvision: I'll still get this anyways. I'll set it to all go to THQ as its obvious they are in desperate need of cash.
Yeah, I did too. But now I feel stupid for not thinking of putting all the money to charity. Frankly, I don't personally feel either HiB or THQ would have been rewarded for such a move, but I did anyway. Oh well. :( Well, maybe I wanted to give a bit of money towards THQ anyway.
Posted November 30, 2012
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CaptainGyro: Well selling games with drm here would be business suicide, because that's their main selling point now. Personally I don't see any reason to respect them more for simply trying to stay in business
They also have no issue stocking games needing CD-keys .... Which I consider DRM (So you need them for MP. Many games need Steamworks for MP. Still DRM.)

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Not to mention the whole "Old games" principle....
Post edited November 30, 2012 by SimonG
Posted November 30, 2012
ugh.. my unsupported opinion based on conjecture and anecdotal evidence is better than your unsupported opinion based on conjecture and anecdotal evidence.
Posted November 30, 2012
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Antaniserse: ]Then an alien from Mars, maybe?
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jamyskis: So the sole response to me reporting my experience is a back-handed personal insult?

Gotcha. I think this discussion is at an end.
I find more insulting that you think that "alien from Mars" is an insult... i thought it was kind of cool, actually.

Jeez, lighten up, man...
Posted November 30, 2012
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htown1980: ugh.. my unsupported opinion based on conjecture and anecdotal evidence is better than your unsupported opinion based on conjecture and anecdotal evidence.
The numbers are there

http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/03/07/just-how-important-is-steam-for-indie-devs
Posted November 30, 2012
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SimonG:
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jamyskis: I'm not sure what planet you're living on, but no 'average gamer' that I've ever encountered or know actually praises Steam.
Fuck me. Is it possible to sink any deeper into self-delusion than this?
Posted November 30, 2012
Fuck the lot of you. I'm out of here.
Posted November 30, 2012
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jamyskis: Yeah, I have been tempted to chuck in $1 for Company of Heroes and give it all to charity, but I really don't know if we even get the uncensored version (the German version is bereft of swastikas, which doesn't really bother me, but is also only playable in German, which does bother me).
There are no swastikas in the international version. ;) And the game can be played in every language.
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