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keeveek: I don't have even slightest respect for THQ now... Good luck finding a new job, THQ guys!
Yeah, how dare those assholes release experimental games that no other publisher would touch with a 10ft pole! Pft, we don't need warhammer 40k games, we don't need experimentation in RTS genre, we don't need such nonsense as open-world FPS games that had very hard time looking for a publisher and even tho they were very risky, THQ has accepted them. We need more Modern Warfares!

And then the bastards dare doing pay what you want bundle, and not only that, they even GIVE AWAY FREE GAMES! That's just unheard of, no publisher should ever do that! And then, they ruin absolutely everything by charging 5 bucks less for a complete edition, probably because they're aware of the fact that no one would buy the GOLD one anymore. Assholes.
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SimonG: I disagree on the SR III part. The game without any DLC is still bigger and better than many other games. The Story DLCs are not bad, but not really essential. The other DLCs are just costumers and fluff.
Oh, I should make it a bit more clear. I am not complaining they give SR3 in the HIB. I actually think it is a very good deal. My complaint is why they don't have a separate DLC bundle for sale on Steam . (My same complaint goes to a lot of games having TONS of DLC but not offering DLC bundle)
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Fenixp: snip
They did the bundle to cash out only. Nothing noble on their part.

But yeah, they are not EA, so they can't be assholes at all. Experimental games? Yeah, surely, there were no RTS + RPG + Action games before DOW2.

And it's nothing wrong that you have to pay twice as much for all DOW 1 games than you had before. What I'm saying? Three times that much!

How on earth could I bash them for that?
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keeveek: But yeah, they are not EA, so they can't be assholes at all. Experimental games? Yeah, surely, there were no RTS + RPG + Action games before DOW2.
DOW/COH Introduced the mechanic of holding points. It was a new kind RTS and got great praise for it when it was released.

Metro 2033 was very experimental for several reasons. (Releasing a FPS shooter without MP? MADNESS)

Darksiders, for the PC, is still one of its kind as there are hardly any Zeldaesque games here

Red Faction is still the only series with such a good "geomod" engine.

THQ as a publisher was excellent. Gamers were to immature to accept their DLC strategy. But in selecting developers and letting them work they had a hand of gold.
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keeveek: They did the bundle to cash out only. Nothing noble on their part.
Kind of like everyone who ever joined the bundle. Or do you really think that the devs thought "Oh cool, we're helping charity!" Oh right, except they were indie, so it was a good thing.

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keeveek: But yeah, they are not EA, so they can't be assholes at all. Experimental games? Yeah, surely, there were no RTS + RPG + Action games before DOW2.
Experimental within the framework of AAA titles. I've not seen any publisher releasing so many actually interesting and innovative games as THQ, and you just can't take that away from them.

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keeveek: And it's nothing wrong that you have to pay twice as much for all DOW 1 games than you had before. What I'm saying? Three times that much!
It'll be on sale for like 2 or 3 euro during christmas sale, they've probably increased price exactly for that reason (like most publishers do by the way, except they manage to do it much more covertly.)
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SimonG: DOW/COH Introduced the mechanic of holding points. It was a new kind RTS and got great praise for it when it was released.
The difference between holding points and cities with mines in any oridinary RTS is....? I played COH for quite time and never felt that it's something new. It's the same thing disguised as being different. Capturing the base instead of building it isn't that different.

And Tales of Valor? "Ooooh, did you see what they did in Men of War? Direct fire! Let's steal the idea and call it our own!" (they literally called it their own on the dvd case)

"FPS without MP, so innovative" -> I lol'd on that part and stopped reading, sorry :P

Saints Row although being GTA clone is the most innovative of their games. There's no other one that crazy and obscene as this one.

What I would say about THQ is that they expand known ideas, not that they are some kind of mother of innovation.
Post edited December 12, 2012 by keeveek
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keeveek: What I would say about THQ is that they expand known ideas, not that they are some kind of mother of innovation.
Expanding upon known ideas and doing something interesting with them is innovation. And it's what vast majority of publishers don't do nearly as often as THQ.
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SimonG: DOW/COH Introduced the mechanic of holding points. It was a new kind RTS and got great praise for it when it was released.
Maybe say reintroduced this mechanic, since it goes back to Z (or earlier, no idea). But it is definitely correct that it was different from the "standard" RTS at the time.
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keeveek: The difference between holding points and cities with mines in any oridinary RTS is....? I played COH for quite time and never felt that it's something new. It's the same thing disguised as being different.
I was there when it was released, and somehow literally every gaming magazine disagreed with you.

But hey, if you find it unbearable that you have those games, maybe you should ask THQ for your 5$ back.
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etna87: Maybe say reintroduced this mechanic, since it goes back to Z (or earlier, no idea). But it is definitely correct that it was different from the "standard" RTS at the time.
Yeah, right. But, well, Z, was, well, Z ...

And it wasn't the only new thing they did. Not to mention the cover aspect, which was also or the AWESOME graphics.
Post edited December 12, 2012 by SimonG
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SimonG: I was there when it was released, and somehow literally every gaming magazine disagreed with you.
They clearly never played Empire Earth 2 before, for example, one of many. VG Reviewers tend to have short memory.

And since when "gaming journalism" is important now?

And to respond in your manner - you bitch so often about GOG, what are you doing here? Ask GOG to give you your money back and leave!
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keeveek: They clearly never played Empire Earth 2 before, for example, one of many. VG Reviewers tend to have short memory.
You mean Empire Earth where you 'capture' territories by building expansion bases? You know, the 'capturing points' mechanic existed precisely to remove that and to make the game more dynamic.
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keeveek: They clearly never played Empire Earth 2 before, for example, one of many. VG Reviewers tend to have short memory.
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Fenixp: You mean Empire Earth where you 'capture' territories by building expansion bases? You know, the 'capturing points' mechanic existed precisely to remove that and to make the game more dynamic.
Because time to capture zone is so different from time to build an outpost to capture that.

Keep going.
Post edited December 12, 2012 by keeveek
Ahh - good to see this thread is getting back on track. I was getting a bit worried about it there.
I wonder how in hell people are capable of bitching about a bunch of games sold for near to nothing.