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Posted November 26, 2014
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flashpulse: I usually don't use Steam but I couldn't resist. Nice bundle!
that what i thought 6 decent to good games for 1 dollar ?
whats not to like ?
Post edited November 26, 2014 by snowkatt
Posted November 26, 2014
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snowkatt: unfortunally
because there is nothing wrong with console games
Especially older consoles. Nowadays, the new consoles seem to lack most of the features which originally made consoles interesting to gamers. They're hardly different from a PC by now, except more limited, which is why I mostly stick to PC games myself now. But someone who never touched a console in their whole life certainly missed out on tons of amazing, and revolutionary games.

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snowkatt: and some great games only appeared on consoles ( or obscure japanese only pc platforms ) like snatcher policenauts and corpse party
Some? More like, most console games. And it's not just the exclusives, either ( looks at Nintendo ). There's entire genres which were never popular on PC, so most of those games only appeared on consoles.
Posted November 26, 2014
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snowkatt: the dot emu releases are from what i can tell DRM free
so its even more mystifying why those games arent on gog
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CharlesGrey: Two theories: 1) They managed to negotiate some sort of exclusive deal with Sega, at least for a few years or so.

2) GOG doesn't think it would be worth bringing them here, because, while they are theoretically classics ( some of them anyway ), there's too many people here always bawwing against anything console related. :/
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Post edited November 26, 2014 by gamerdarksiders
Posted November 26, 2014
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opticq: I remember the good old days of Humble Indie Bundle 1/2 when every game was DRM free as well as on Steam. Then everything changed when the fire..erm I mean the THQ bundle happened.
Yes, it is disappointing that Humble doesn't use their leverage to help continue spreading the DRM-Free movement further into the realm of big name publishers. It's a shame that they've sacrificed some of their founding principles in order to offer these big name bundles, but now that they are even more established because of it, it seems like they should have even more power to dictate the terms of the bundles on offer. Unfortunately, the increasing rarity of DRM-free titles in their bundles makes it seem like DRM-Free is no longer a priority to the Humble curators.
Posted November 26, 2014
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snowkatt: unfortunally
because there is nothing wrong with console games
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CharlesGrey: Especially older consoles. Nowadays, the new consoles seem to lack most of the features which originally made consoles interesting to gamers. They're hardly different from a PC by now, except more limited, which is why I mostly stick to PC games myself now. But someone who never touched a console in their whole life certainly missed out on tons of amazing, and revolutionary games.

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snowkatt: and some great games only appeared on consoles ( or obscure japanese only pc platforms ) like snatcher policenauts and corpse party
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CharlesGrey: Some? More like, most console games. And it's not just the exclusives, either ( looks at Nintendo ). There's entire genres which were never popular on PC, so most of those games only appeared on consoles.
well im honestly not much of a nintendo fan ima sega fan ...ahem
there is a reaosn why i have still have 3 and a half sega consoles hooked up and only 1 nintendo console

( the megadrive saturn dreamcast and the 32X ( the half console ) if wondering the single nintendo console is the snes )

but it would be silly for me to discount all the great nintendo games that are out there
course nintendo games will never ever appear on any other platform other then nintendo

sega is so far the only one willing and ina position to rerelease their libraries on other platforms
Posted November 26, 2014
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snowkatt: ( the megadrive saturn dreamcast and the 32X ( the half console ) if wondering the single nintendo console is the snes )
Dreamcast?, do you own the berserk game?
Posted November 26, 2014
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the.kuribo: Yes, it is disappointing that Humble doesn't use their leverage to help continue spreading the DRM-Free movement further into the realm of big name publishers. It's a shame that they've sacrificed some of their founding principles in order to offer these big name bundles, but now that they are even more established because of it, it seems like they should have even more power to dictate the terms of the bundles on offer. Unfortunately, the increasing rarity of DRM-free titles in their bundles makes it seem like DRM-Free is no longer a priority to the Humble curators.
Maybe their priority is to raise as much as possible for charity, by any means ( including the sale of Steam games and the like ). Which sucks for people who would like to see more DRM free games there, but at least it's for a good cause? :/
Posted November 26, 2014
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snowkatt: ( the megadrive saturn dreamcast and the 32X ( the half console ) if wondering the single nintendo console is the snes )
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GioVio123: Dreamcast?, do you own the berserk game?
no
my dreamcast library is "smal" just 25 titles or so
Posted November 26, 2014
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CharlesGrey: Maybe their priority is to raise as much as possible for charity, by any means ( including the sale of Steam games and the like ). Which sucks for people who would like to see more DRM free games there, but at least it's for a good cause? :/
I think they wanna get more background and some leverage for this, not saying is wrong, but they may be more prominent in the future with the chances they are getting
Posted November 26, 2014
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snowkatt: well im honestly not much of a nintendo fan ima sega fan ...ahem
there is a reaosn why i have still have 3 and a half sega consoles hooked up and only 1 nintendo console

( the megadrive saturn dreamcast and the 32X ( the half console ) if wondering the single nintendo console is the snes )

but it would be silly for me to discount all the great nintendo games that are out there
course nintendo games will never ever appear on any other platform other then nintendo

sega is so far the only one willing and ina position to rerelease their libraries on other platforms
For better or worse I used to have just about any console at some point, including Nintendo and Sega. And the rest. :x

Also, you guys are always too quick to say "never". Imagine if Nintendo quit their console hardware business for good ( which may or may not be desirable, but not entirely unlikely ) -- then they'd be in the same position as Sega, and could very well offer their huge software back catalog on other platforms.
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GioVio123: I think they wanna get more background and some leverage for this, not saying is wrong, but they may be more prominent in the future with the chances they are getting
Sad as it is, it seems most gamers don't care much about DRM and mandatory online clients. So offering Steam games is probably an easy way for Humble to make a big profit ( for themselves and for charity ). The people who insist on DRM-free software, such as most GOG users, still seem to be a minority.
Post edited November 26, 2014 by CharlesGrey
Posted November 26, 2014
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snowkatt: well im honestly not much of a nintendo fan ima sega fan ...ahem
there is a reaosn why i have still have 3 and a half sega consoles hooked up and only 1 nintendo console

( the megadrive saturn dreamcast and the 32X ( the half console ) if wondering the single nintendo console is the snes )

but it would be silly for me to discount all the great nintendo games that are out there
course nintendo games will never ever appear on any other platform other then nintendo

sega is so far the only one willing and ina position to rerelease their libraries on other platforms
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CharlesGrey: For better or worse I used to have just about any console at some point, including Nintendo and Sega. And the rest. :x

Also, you guys are always too quick to say "never". Imagine if Nintendo quit their console hardware business for good ( which may or may not be desirable, but not entirely unlikely ) -- then they'd be in the same position as Sega, and could very well offer their huge software back catalog on other platforms.
what even that ( 3d0 ) or that ( neo geo avs ) surley not that ( pippin at mark ) and you got to be joking ! ( cdi )

i dont know about nintendo going third party
nintendo is fiercly independant and marches to their own beat
nintendo is also relentlessly inventive and always tinkering ( and they also release gimmicks that are great on paper and then they drop the ball after releasing them the game pad is the latest victim )

they also have pokemon and their mobile platform to keep them afloat

i'd say that it will take a long time and a huge corporate cultural shift for nintendo ever to consider going third party

id nintendo wasnt so fiercley independent they woudl have fallen into lock step years ago with ms and sony

sega was ina weak position in 2001
they were bleeding money left and right
on the brink of bankrupcey
the dreamcast was failling and they coudltn reduce the price
the games were pirated left and right
and they still had the bad pr from dropping the game gear and megadrive in 97
killing the 32X in 96 after pretty much confirming both systems woudl be supported for several years to come

teh 32X especially stung because it was around for less then a year and was $199 at launch

the saturn underperformed and wa slowly being throtteld to death and negelected in the end in europe and the usa
it was sega saturn magazine that promoted the machine in europe untill the end with the meaugre localisations and a slew of imports

when the saturn was finally killed it pretty much sealed sega's fate

the dreamcast was their last great hope but they couldnt compete not with the sony hypetrain
the ps2 coming
the ps2 playing dvd's
the dreamcast having mill cd support which made pirating their games trivial

the dc was excpect to fail it couldnt break even nor coudl sega drop the price it became aself fullfilling porphency
it had great games but very few peopel bought it

so in the end to forestall any more bleeding and secure the comapny from collapsing sega had to close the hardware division and even then it took restructuring and a 700 million cash injection to keep sega afloat

nintendo is in choppy waters but they are not that bad off
sega was a sinking ship the uss nintendo is in rough sea
Posted November 26, 2014
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CharlesGrey: Maybe their priority is to raise as much as possible for charity, by any means ( including the sale of Steam games and the like ). Which sucks for people who would like to see more DRM free games there, but at least it's for a good cause? :/
In all honesty, like most businesses I think their first priority is profit and growth. Humble Bundle, Inc is a for-profit, privately held corporation, although since they do raise large sums for charity people and seem to be transparent about their earnings people often think of them like a non-profit organization. Let's be clear though... they are not. While they do raise quite a bit of money for charity, most of the money goes to the developers they promote and a good chunk goes to Humble Bundle itself, and they are likely able to squeak more profit by writing off the charitable donations from their taxes.

Don't get me wrong, I do think that as a corporation they do have great ethics, ideals, and intentions... but if profit were not one of their motivators they would be an NPO, not a corporation. I imagine that their internal mission statement priorities are something along the lines of 1) grow bigger and increase revenues at maximum efficiency, 2) raise money for charity, 3) promote indie developers & DRM-Free practices. #3 seems to be less of a priority, because it likely gets in the way of maximizing #'s 1 and 2 given the current state of things.
Posted November 26, 2014
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snowkatt: the dot emu releases are from what i can tell DRM free
so its even more mystifying why those games arent on gog
Reportedly, this is due to regional restrictions. Sega doesn't want to sell their stuff in Japan, and GOG sells worldwide.
Posted November 26, 2014
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snowkatt: the dot emu releases are from what i can tell DRM free
so its even more mystifying why those games arent on gog
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P1na: Reportedly, this is due to regional restrictions. Sega doesn't want to sell their stuff in Japan, and GOG sells worldwide.
Strange thing is, regional restrictions don't seem to apply to DotEmu and GamersGate (two shops that sell the MegaDrive Collection DRM-Free).
Posted November 26, 2014
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realkman666: Total War Rome II: Caesar in Gaul DLC

AHAHAHAH Humble really is shit now.
Why is that bad? Its expensive otherwise; and getting it in a bundle may prompt people to get the others. And as a player, I think its one of the better ones out there considering it adds a campaign in addition to the factions which being milked like crazy.
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