After reminding myself of Empire Earth Gold Edition,the nostalgia inside me made me want to play it again
So i remembered that i have a desura key of HiB 2 that i would never use.

Anyone interesed?

Have you redeemed the Steam code or saved the games to your hard drive?

If so, legally you can't trade the Desura code. They gave the codes to people could access the games through different services depending what they use. That doesn't mean you have multiple copies of the games. You still only have one license for each game.

I did activate the other key on steam.........
Damn.

There is nothing really stopping you from doing it. But ethically it isn't right since you already redeemed the license. Giving the Desura key away amounts to someone getting a copy and the devs not getting paid for it.

Yeah but the HiB 2 buying time ended long ago,so they can't really get any profit from the games,unless bought individually.

Well, there's the possibility to raise your donation at any time.

IIRC, the devs appreciated themselves the fact that people buying their games could install them not only on their own PCs, but also share games with someone else.
As for me myself, I made several copies of them for my friends... maybe it's just wrong =(

That would be a copyright violation in Canada. But I am unfamiliar with the Copyright Act of Russia so you will have to read it and tell me.

Either way trading away Humble Indie Bundles is considered bad form and I agree with it.

You could've bought your copy for as low as 1 cent. And I'm not saying that you did that, but giving it trade value by allowing to trade it means every time the humble bundle comes up more and more sleezebags will be getting copies for practically nothing, just to trade them away later for better value.

Legal or not, one could at the time make a 1c donation for the additional licenses which would have been more dickish.

So, I'd put that at less dickish than giving a minimum priced offer in and more dickish than not contributing 50c or whatever the cost of processing the order was.

Ethical or not, I didn't think subjective morality would be all that useful in this discussion so I suggested a relevant foundation on which the poster can make his or her own informed decisions.

Which ultimately is a large part of the problem with the legal system. It's got absolutely nothing to do with any sort of reasonable sense of ethics.

I don't think that it's right to give out the key, but in practical terms, it's less harmful to the developers to hand out the key to a small number of people than it is to be legit and pay the minimum per copy.

As far as the legality goes, there's very little question. It will vary somewhat from place to place, but it's still piracy, whether or not a jurisdiction allows it to be enforced. In some places, the matter hinges upon whether or not the individual is being paid.

I could be wrong, but I think Russia is a bit like China where piracy is more or less rampant and the laws aren't particularly well enforced.

In Soviet Russia, Indie Bundles humble you.

Well, there's piracy and piracy. The first is "Let's crack a few hundreds of games, burn them to CDs (or DVDs) and trade them!". The latter is "I backed up a copy of game and gave the disk to my girlfriend, because the game was great and I wanted to share it"

Even Steam works this way: you may tell your login and password to anybody, and that person will be able to play all your games in Steam. Obviously, you won't be able to play them at the same time yourself, but it's not cruel.
Also, EULA of Myst III: Exile (I'm sure there're more similar EULAs, but I have no proofs right now) says that I'm allowed to install the game on _any_ number of PCs, but I'm not allowed to run more than one copy of the game installed from one CD at the moment. That's also fair, I guess.

I work at (legal) video game store, and I can tell that the word "rampant" is incorrect. It's common, yes, but not rampant. A lot of people pay for games, and not only on release day (when it's the only way to get a copy). Also, prices for video games here in Russia are _really_ low, especially comparing to prices in Europe.
There're just two factors, which make people not to buy legal copies: terrible localization (it's far more often than you can imagine) and pirate video game stores. Yes, the whole shops full of pirated disks — and customers don't even know it's pirated. That's the worst case of pirating, IMO.
Oh wait, and there's also the third factor — DRM. That's why I'm here, yes.

Sad but true.