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ET3D: I'm still tempted to buy the $1 bundle just to have a DRM free copy of Broken Sword 2. Might or might not do it.

Android no longer has the draw it had for me before. Very soon (when I find some free time) I'll buy an ASUS VivoTab Note 8, which will hopefully finally allow me to play many of my hoarded PC games on a mobile device. I will no longer need to find Android versions of games (although I'm sure that in some cases they will be more suitable for tablet play than the PC versions).
Thats ok, albeit whole idea of x86 hardware on mobile device make me laught. But for 1$ you alse will get Ravensword, pretty good game.
BTW, you will not be able to use Android apps on that tablet - different CPU type.
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Niggles: not worth it for me.I'm just going to buy the Syder Arcade OST by itself...the games in bundle don't interest me.ugh mobile gaming.
Its 7$ on CDBaby - kinda expensive, no?
And here too...https://play.google.com/store/music/album/Various_Artists_Syder_Arcade_Original_Soundtrack?id=Bx3rs3nhppxea3wbs7wvwer4zcm

BTW, Syder Arcade is NOT mobile game, it was ported to mobile later.
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Grargar: I think I actually found one notable offender; Catan HD, from Humble Mobile Bundle 4. It has a locked campaign and actually sends you to Google Play when you attempt to buy a campaign. Same case with Knights of Pen and Paper +1.
I cannot check that - i missed this one Mobile bundle (stupid me)
Post edited April 08, 2014 by Redfern
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Redfern: I cannot check that - i missed this one Mobile bundle (stupid me)
What about Knights of Pen and Paper +1 then? You can buy gold within the game.
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IAmSinistar: Νίκαια ξεκλειδώνει, καλύτερο πακέτο σε μια στιγμή τώρα για μένα.

("Nice unlocks, best bundle in a while now for me.")
You will allow me to point out why Darko's eyes were hurt by this.

Instead of "Adjective noun", the first two words were translated as "Subject verb", so the city of Nice is unlocking something.
After the comma it is a bit more understandable, though the "in a while" was translated as "momentarily"

And should you visit Crete, do send a message here as well.
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angrypole: I don't know about you guys, but android games just turn me off. Ugh.
Quite the opposite in fact...
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JMich: You will allow me to point out why Darko's eyes were hurt by this.

Instead of "Adjective noun", the first two words were translated as "Subject verb", so the city of Nice is unlocking something.
Gah! The robot translator's first choice for a common English word is to use a proper noun? That don't seem right. Though granted my laconic sentence structure didn't exactly provide a wealth of cues.

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JMich: And should you visit Crete, do send a message here as well.
I shall, to both, if the Fates forebear.
I had the BTA and it's being quite a nice bundle, half the games are totally great. I have been interested in The Shivah for a while.. Syder Arcade I have and played on Desura already, it is short but a nice shooter.
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angrypole: I don't know about you guys, but android games just turn me off. Ugh.
You don't have any Android devices, or you don't want any games on them regardless?

We have some Android devices now (phones and a tablet) for which I like to get games "just in case", and the HB Android games are perfect for that as they are 99% of the time DRM-free, and they aren't just your usual Bejeweled clones and such, maybe because they usually have also PC-versions available.

But in reality, I haven't really immersed myself into any of them that much. For one thing, 90% of the time I play on my laptop instead anyway. And sometimes when I think of playing some of the Android games I've bought, I think to myself "The PC version is probably superior both in presentation and controls... so shouldn't I play it instead?".

Anyway, at least I have a library of Android games now, if I ever get an urge to play more on the Android devices.
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JMich: You will allow me to point out why Darko's eyes were hurt by this.

Instead of "Adjective noun", the first two words were translated as "Subject verb", so the city of Nice is unlocking something.
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IAmSinistar: Gah! The robot translator's first choice for a common English word is to use a proper noun? That don't seem right.
Just tested it, seems that "Nice" is translated as the city, while "nice" is translated as the adjective. Capital first letter for names and all that.
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ET3D: I'm still tempted to buy the $1 bundle just to have a DRM free copy of Broken Sword 2. Might or might not do it.

Android no longer has the draw it had for me before. Very soon (when I find some free time) I'll buy an ASUS VivoTab Note 8, which will hopefully finally allow me to play many of my hoarded PC games on a mobile device. I will no longer need to find Android versions of games (although I'm sure that in some cases they will be more suitable for tablet play than the PC versions).
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Redfern: Thats ok, albeit whole idea of x86 hardware on mobile device make me laught. But for 1$ you alse will get Ravensword, pretty good game.
BTW, you will not be able to use Android apps on that tablet - different CPU type.
Many Android apps are written in Java and are usable on any Android device regardless of CPU type, and this includes BlueStacks (which lets you run Android apps on any PC). Besides, I already have an Android tablet.

And I'm not sure why you're laughing about x86 in mobile. I'm sure it will become a lot more common, even for Android. As for a Windows tablet, I find the idea of a full PC in a mobile form factor very attractive.
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IAmSinistar: Νίκαια ξεκλειδώνει, καλύτερο πακέτο σε μια στιγμή τώρα για μένα.

("Nice unlocks, best bundle in a while now for me.")
And a recursive translation provided, once again, by Google:

"Nice unlocks, best package at a time now for me."
Post edited April 09, 2014 by Grargar
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angrypole: I don't know about you guys, but android games just turn me off. Ugh.
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timppu: You don't have any Android devices, or you don't want any games on them regardless?

We have some Android devices now (phones and a tablet) for which I like to get games "just in case", and the HB Android games are perfect for that as they are 99% of the time DRM-free, and they aren't just your usual Bejeweled clones and such, maybe because they usually have also PC-versions available.

But in reality, I haven't really immersed myself into any of them that much. For one thing, 90% of the time I play on my laptop instead anyway. And sometimes when I think of playing some of the Android games I've bought, I think to myself "The PC version is probably superior both in presentation and controls... so shouldn't I play it instead?".

Anyway, at least I have a library of Android games now, if I ever get an urge to play more on the Android devices.
When Interplay's The Bards Tale came out on android, I thought, how great an RPG to play on my phone. Then I installed it. I was not prepared for the terrible experience. My hands covered the play area onscreen, using glass as an input device, terrible battery life, terrible load times. Some games are kind of ok. Super hexagon is a great game. I still am better at it will a controller or keyboard where I can feel my inputs register. Fieldrunners and other tower defense games are meh as well.

I just think that it a shame that phone gaming is such a big thing and Capcom and Square Enix invest such money on mediocre software. I have much, much better times playing on my dedicated gaming devices. Fire Emblem Awakening and Persona 4 G are some of the best games I have ever played, despite the fact they are on portable. I can absolutely not say that about any game that was created for the tablet or smartform platform.
Post edited April 09, 2014 by angrypole
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angrypole: When Interplay's The Bards Tale came out on android, I thought, how great an RPG to play on my phone. Then I installed it. I was not prepared for the terrible experience. My hands covered the play area onscreen, using glass as an input device, terrible battery life, terrible load times. Some games are kind of ok. Super hexagon is a great game. I still am better at it will a controller or keyboard where I can feel my inputs register. Fieldrunners and other tower defense games are meh as well.

I just think that it a shame that phone gaming is such a big thing and Capcom and Square Enix invest such money on mediocre software. I have much, much better times playing on my dedicated gaming devices. Fire Emblem Awakening and Persona 4 G are some of the best games I have ever played, despite the fact they are on portable. I can absolutely not say that about any game that was created for the tablet or smartform platform.
Indeed. There are some games that have worked quite well on phones/tablets - Cogs was decent, the mobile adaptation of Anomaly: Warzone Earth was very well done, and Funky Smugglers and Canabalt are probably my two most-played "time-wasters". Also, the mobile port of Avadon is probably the best RPG ever to grace a tablet screen.

But at the same time, touchscreen gaming has the problem that it is a medium that does not lend itself well to games that rely on traditional controls, and complexity is something that is difficult to bring into a platform that imposes such limits. Trying to play The Bard's Tale on Android with any degree of accuracy had me chewing off the tips of my fingers out of sheer frustration. Don't even get me started on Carmageddon.

Strategy games are usually a good fit for the platform, as are P&C adventure games. But I've found that even these two supposed perfect-fits are frought with problems on touchscreens. I was playing Broken Sword 2 on my Android tablet recently, for example, and found that I greatly missed being able to mouse-over objects to see what I can interact with. Likewise, I often found strategy games and RPGs directly brought over from PC to be badly missing the right mouse button. Shortcuts were obviously impossible and huge amounts of the already limited screen real-estate were wasted on the controls that should really be located off-screen. Also, having my grubby little sausage fingers obscuring the view constantly is quite annoying.

At the end of the day, I've found very few games on Android that I would actually like to play, and those that I do enjoy, I usually find they're a better fit on PC - precisely due to the availability of better controls.

There's a reason that despite having touchscreens, the Vita and 3DS are still blessed with physical controls - touchscreen controls are a complement, not a means in their own right.
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IAmSinistar: Gah! The robot translator's first choice for a common English word is to use a proper noun? That don't seem right.
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JMich: Just tested it, seems that "Nice" is translated as the city, while "nice" is translated as the adjective. Capital first letter for names and all that.
Yes, the capitalisation occurred to me too as a possible cause for it favouring a proper noun over a common one. I imagine if I had written a more complete sentence - 'This bundle has some nice unlocked extras' - it would have done a better job as well.
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ET3D: Many Android apps are written in Java and are usable on any Android device regardless of CPU type, and this includes BlueStacks (which lets you run Android apps on any PC). Besides, I already have an Android tablet.

And I'm not sure why you're laughing about x86 in mobile. I'm sure it will become a lot more common, even for Android. As for a Windows tablet, I find the idea of a full PC in a mobile form factor very attractive.
1) Its not same Java as you use on PC, they not binary compatible.
2) CPU agnostic software is ONLY one who dont use NDK. ALL games which use at least a bit of hardware acceleration - uses NDK, so its not CPU agnostic, and as you can guess, 99.9% uses NDK
2a) Textures format - GPU used in Android devices use something like 4 known textures formats. Non is compatible with GPU used on desktop or x86 oriented hardware. But thats smallest problem, actually.
3) Bluestack is nothing more then seamless integration of android app which running in special stripped down version of android which in turn is running in virtual machine. So, this is either slow and CPU\RAM hog OR need full fledged visualization support in host CPU. I kinda not sure that cheap and low-power Atom have necessary support for it.
4) Atom processor...well, main problem of x86 is powerusage. They just never was developed for being energy effective. ARM in turn have much better performance\energy use ratio. MIPS was said to have even better performance ratio, but its totally failed to gain any traction in Android hardware due same thing - NDK and big compatibility problems.
Intel, ofc, tried a lot to make Atoms more energy effective, but ways they had to use is - making them less powerful and\or stripping down functions to make them less complex, because they cannot improve them radically without radical changes which they make them incompatible and by that ruin whole idea.
5) And in the very end, idea of "tablet PC with windows" is soo...not new. its like second or third iteration of such devices, there was Windows Tablet before, and UMPC later. Same idea again and again, who know, maybe they implement it right way this time...
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Regarding your points:

1. What does that have to do with anything? The point is that apps are distributed in CPU agnostic machine code, and compiled just in time to native CPU, so they can run on any architecture.

2. Most apps use the standard SDK, and it certainly does provide 3D acceleration. Also most "hard core" games on mobile use Unity, and Unity does run on BlueStacks.

3. BlueStacks is an implementation of Android, not emulation. It's equivalent to running on an x86 Android device. For some Atom details see here. Perhaps read about Bay Trail a little, so you stop speculating about what these CPU's have and don't have.

4. See 3 (read about Bay Trail).

5. Maybe they have. I'm sure you can learn more about them if you try.

Lastly, I'm still not sure why you're even arguing this. I'm buying a mobile PC so I can play PC games. Why would I want to play Android games on it?