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Posted January 30, 2010
1. Found a company that openly opposes DRM as far as is possible
2. Stand firmly by anti-DRM policy
3. Make an awesome statement by subtly calling an industry giant "malware"
4. ???
5. WIN!
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2010/01/29/valve-announce-25-million-users-for-steam/
Posted January 30, 2010
I love GOG and what it's doing (or I wouldn't be here, durr) but that is not the way to win business.
Posted January 30, 2010
Calling Steam a 'malware' is taking it a little bit too far, though... :|
Posted January 30, 2010
They most likely won't let GOG get away with that remark that easily.
Posted January 30, 2010
How dare GOG refer to Steam as malware! Other digital distribution services such as D2D, GamersGate and Impulse, would never do anything so horrendous as that! Oh wait...
Posted January 30, 2010
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bansama: How dare GOG refer to Steam as malware! Other digital distribution services such as D2D, GamersGate and Impulse, would never do anything so horrendous as that! Oh wait...

Only problem with that is that I wanted to see GOG as being above them; just look at the tight-knit community, excellent support and great flair they have compared to the other services.
With that remark GOG just moved a couple of levels down on the scale of "Company close to my heart" unfortunately.
Posted January 30, 2010
Marcin, say you're sorry!
Posted January 30, 2010
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bansama: How dare GOG refer to Steam as malware! Other digital distribution services such as D2D, GamersGate and Impulse, would never do anything so horrendous as that! Oh wait...

D2D called them a trojan horse, which had a double meaning, referencing the Greek legend. Selling Modern Warfare 2 would be also selling Steam's storefront.
GOG's criticism only has a single meaning, which is worse. It's something I pretty much agree with, but it is worse.
Edit: when I saw the headline, thought you were going to refer to this
http://blogs.battlefield.ea.com/battlefield_bad_company/archive/2010/01/26/BFBC2-PC-Copy-Protection.aspx
Which is definitely the standard of how a game's DRM should be detailed in the industry - whether you like the DRM or not.
Post edited January 30, 2010 by Lucibel
Posted January 30, 2010
Oh! blasphemy! :P
C'mon...
If that steam story about Modern Warfare 2 is true, then I agree with Marcin.
The remark may be a little exaggerated but given the context it's no big deal.
Posted January 30, 2010
While we all love the no-DRM policy, it's probably not a smart move for a GoG executive to suggest Steam is malware, in public space.
Steam is not malware.
I find that D2D chose their words more correctly. In the case of a Modern Warfare 2 installation on a system that did not previously have Steam, the automatic and mandatory addition of the Steam client could very well be called a trojan horse.
Posted January 30, 2010
It is sad that Marcin stumbled into the word 'malware' to describe his problem with Steam, since a few paragraphs later he put a legitimate critique on Steam's shortcomings (compared to GOG):
The heart of Steam are new games and this is what they concentrate on. Their range of older titles is not very impressive. Furthermore, some of them are not properly tested and simply do not work with some systems (WinXP, 95, etc.), not to mention being forced to install the Steam client and the fact that while playing you need to have Internet access for pretty much the whole time. By the way, if Steam is ever shut down for any reason then this is the end, all purchased games no longer work.
Posted January 30, 2010
"malware" is a catch-all term for "bad" software....whether inept, or malicious programming is the cause. It doesn't necessarily mean "virus" or "trojan", so "lazy" can be a legitimate use of it.
And programs that come without an auto-remover do fall into this term...it's just bad, sloppy, lazy coding that means they don't care about their product, only what you're paying them for it. "Malware" fits that sort of thing exactly.
Posted January 30, 2010
Well, I think, at least here is a person that speaks his mind and has the experience to back it up. As an added bonus I now know about "Total Uninstall."
I am pleased GOG is standing firm on the no DRM front; they really do understand the big picture.
Post edited January 30, 2010 by Faithful
Posted January 30, 2010
Normally, I wouldn't approve of one company bad-mouthing another, as it isn't professional.
But in this case, I think it's alright because most consumers aren't aware about DRM that comes with their games. Raising awareness about this problem is a good thing.
If Steam isn't malware it's certainly inconvenientware or nuisanceware (if they aren't real words, they should be).
Posted January 30, 2010
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Tsunami: If Steam isn't malware it's certainly inconvenientware or nuisanceware (if they aren't real words, they should be).

Rentware?
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