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Hello,

This is a protest against your protest song. As fellow gog users mentioned before, use your browser to download your games. Gog.com is the best download service in terms of longevity of your games. They are completely DRM-free and you can redownload them as you like. You can install them on so many of your computers as you like so it is like games had been a long time ago. It is better then steam, gamersgate, stardock's impulse or Microsoft's Games for Windows Life, the best source to buy old games in the internet.

Please rethink your opinion, you would miss something by ignoring gog.com. And gog.com has one of the nicest internet communities.

Have a nice day.
Post edited March 13, 2011 by torqual76
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BMayzak: Feel free to not enter a thread called "Horrible First Impression" then; I thought the contents of it would be clear from that.
A forum used to be, and still is, a place for discussions, that's where the word comes from.
See, now you've learned something.. and knowledge is power!
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BMayzak: ...
Having downloaded almost 150 games from GOG at 85K, many of them multi-file sets over 2GB, without a single failure . . . I suggest in the nicest way that you use your browser ( I use Firefox ) It just works.
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Damuna: You know, I can't manually pause using Steam's integrated downloader. Doing so botches the download. I'm pretty sure that's still not fixed, either.

Thing is, though, I don't have to use the GOG downloader to download my games, so the fact that GOG's custom downloader doesn't work isn't really an issue.
It is an issue if they are making it available to first time customers, who are accustomed to using downloader clients to get their games (as in every other digital download provider); also, for those who are going to be downloading a massive Witcher 2 client. Not everyone is going to go "oh hey this is broken, but that's cool, I'll just not use it". First impressions do matter, and if the first encounter you have with a company is broken and buggy, then it doesn't bode well for the rest of the experience.
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Smannesman: A forum used to be, and still is, a place for discussions, that's where the word comes from.
See, now you've learned something.. and knowledge is power!
Then why come into a thread and say "I don't care".
Post edited March 13, 2011 by BMayzak
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Damuna: I have absolutely no problem with the idea that GOG might sell new games. We already have games from 2008 anyway. Seen King's Bounty?
I made this post on 8/25/2010 and have not been updating my db but . . . it does show that there was / is plenty of room for more old and new games. These "old games only" discussions are getting tiresome . . . =)

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Since there is always a debate about old / new game releases I thought it would be interesting to see what the currently available games data would reveal. The data is skewed somewhat since some GOG releases consist two or more games but only one release date on the game card. I don't have access to the actual release dates on GOG (without a time consuming search for the release posts). Gathering info from the game cards I came up with the following:

- GOG offers 226 games released over a nineteen year period.
- Just over ninety percent of the games offered are from 1994 to 2005.
- Nearly Fifty-two percent are games from 2000 to 2005.
- Nearly thirty-nine percent are from 1994 to 1999.
- Less than five percent are releases before 1994.
- Less than five percent are releases after 2005.

With the release of 11 games prior to 1994 and 10 games after 2005, it seems that there is room for more older and newer game releases . . . =)
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bladeofBG: As for D/L'ing BG2, that's probably the most unique game to D/L on this site, as its the only one that I know of that's in 3 seperate parts - if you're using your browser to get it, that is.
Definitely not the only game like that, it is one of many like that. Just in my limited GOG library, Painkiller, Spellforce and Two Worlds are all like that.
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Damuna: I have absolutely no problem with the idea that GOG might sell new games. We already have games from 2008 anyway. Seen King's Bounty?
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Stuff: I made this post on 8/25/2010 and have not been updating my db but . . . it does show that there was / is plenty of room for more old and new games. These "old games only" discussions are getting tiresome . . . =)

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Since there is always a debate about old / new game releases I thought it would be interesting to see what the currently available games data would reveal. The data is skewed somewhat since some GOG releases consist two or more games but only one release date on the game card. I don't have access to the actual release dates on GOG (without a time consuming search for the release posts). Gathering info from the game cards I came up with the following:

- GOG offers 226 games released over a nineteen year period.
- Just over ninety percent of the games offered are from 1994 to 2005.
- Nearly Fifty-two percent are games from 2000 to 2005.
- Nearly thirty-nine percent are from 1994 to 1999.
- Less than five percent are releases before 1994.
- Less than five percent are releases after 2005.

With the release of 11 games prior to 1994 and 10 games after 2005, it seems that there is room for more older and newer game releases . . . =)
If you go older than 1994 you're really starting to hit Amiga/C64 territory (and the ones we have seen are merely the 386 versions of games that were available on these platforms).
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cogadh: Definitely not the only game like that, it is one of many like that. Just in my limited GOG library, Painkiller, Spellforce and Two Worlds are all like that.
Every games that is bigger than 2GB is like that.
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orcishgamer: If you go older than 1994 you're really starting to hit Amiga/C64 territory (and the ones we have seen are merely the 386 versions of games that were available on these platforms).
I agree, I need to update my db with releases since Aug 2010. The old games only has been beat into the ground soooooo many times. So many times that I took the time to do the research above. My personal preference is . . . GIVE ME GAMES . . . don't care what year they were released, the more the better . . . =)
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BMayzak: It is an issue if they are making it available to first time customers, who are accustomed to using downloader clients to get their games (as in every other digital download provider); also, for those who are going to be downloading a massive Witcher 2 client. Not everyone is going to go "oh hey this is broken, but that's cool, I'll just not use it". First impressions do matter, and if the first encounter you have with a company is broken and buggy, then it doesn't bode well for the rest of the experience.
It basically depends of what you're looking for. I have downloaded gigs upon gigs from GoG, and only had issues once or twice. While the downloader is wonky, it's also outdate piece of garbage that GoG is supposed to improve in comming ... well, time. Also, their 100% XP Vista compatible isn't always true, since some games have issues on Vista.

Overall thou, if you check forums before every purchase you'll be ok, and it's certainly not a reason to DISCOURAGE someone from buying here. I mean, GoG team is quite small and while that is not an excuse, it is an explanation. They do what they can to get as many deals as they can and to make them run on modern computers, while tanking care of the site and customers. It's a from gamers to gamers kind of deal - it won't be perfect as stuff from big companies often is, but it's a work of love, it proves DRM-free concept to be a working one, and it shows that gaming industry can work without ruthless ignorance and arrogance.
GOG rocks. The downloader, I have come to believe, is industrial sabotage perpetrated by their enemies with the intent of bringing down the company, since it has more issues than the archives of the National Geographic magazine.
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Simoneer: It was just my opinion, though. They should have a direction, or at least, not pretend like they do when they don't. On another note, this site that brags about the prices being 5.99 and 9.99 for everything sells off this new game for quite a bit more than that. They seem to be morphing into something quite different.
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Ristar87: I think it's a bit of exploration into expanding their business model. Which I think is just fine: and if it helps GoG's bottom-line, all the better for those of us who love the Old games.
- I suppose.


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Simoneer: Seriously. What makes you dumbfounded? Were newer games here from the get-go?
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bazilisek: Well, that largely depends on your definition of "old". If it means post 2000, then yes. I never quite understood why the age of a particular title should be a problem, really.

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Simoneer: It was just my opinion, though. They should have a direction, or at least, not pretend like they do when they don't. On another note, this site that brags about the prices being 5.99 and 9.99 for everything sells off this new game for quite a bit more than that. They seem to be morphing into something quite different.
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bazilisek: This concern has been voiced before. It has been officially confirmed that the release of The Witcher 2 is a one-off and something of an experiment in releasing a triple-A game DRM free. GOG.com and CD Projekt RED are sister companies, so it's actually quite logical.
-Oh, I had no idea.



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Simoneer: Seriously. What makes you dumbfounded? Were newer games here from the get-go?

It was just my opinion, though. They should have a direction, or at least, not pretend like they do when they don't. On another note, this site that brags about the prices being 5.99 and 9.99 for everything sells off this new game for quite a bit more than that. They seem to be morphing into something quite different.

EDIT: Oh, was it the way that I worded myself that prompted your "seriously"? That I said games this big shouldn't be here? What I meant was that this size indicates that the game is recent -- so I was saying that but in entirely different words.
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bladeofBG: Umm, dude you do know that while GoG sells old games that they didn't make, they are indeed the author's of The Witcher series?

They own GoG and The Witcher, so it'd make no sense if they didn't sell their own game, despite it not being old.
-Again, I had no idea. It does make sense.



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Simoneer: EDIT: Oh, was it the way that I worded myself that prompted your "seriously"? That I said games this big shouldn't be here? What I meant was that this size indicates that the game is recent -- so I was saying that but in entirely different words.
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bazilisek: It was you commenting the way the site is headed, even though you have been here for two weeks at most.
-You're assuming I signed up when I discovered the site, which is a faulty assumption. I've known of it for quite some time, but did not acquire my bank card (nor did I previously have an income) until just recently, so I saw no point in registering.


Off-topic: How does one properly multi-quote? This is a mess...
Post edited March 13, 2011 by Simoneer
Fair enough. I'll just steer clear of the downloader; I realize it's not the games or gog.com itself that are bad, but I do hope they fix the download client if they continue to offer it.

Thanks for listening.
And we're back to being a mostly happy family again!
Since they'll probably be splitting The Witcher 2 into 2Gb chunks for browser downloads, I don't see the concern over that.