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Posted December 26, 2008
hm... prince of persia four pack (all four modern games) is a little under $50, that's a damn good deal, even though I think those games are more console than PC. I might pick up the witcher enhanced edition for $29.99. Also Deus Ex is $5...
Posted December 26, 2008
Seems a bit unethical to advertise for the competition. Just imo.
Posted December 26, 2008
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darthcobley: i just bought bioshock for £3.50 i am still waiting for mass effect to appear on steam !!

I guess its not available in the UK? In the US its on sale for $26 right now on Steam
Posted December 26, 2008
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escapedturkey: Seems a bit unethical to advertise for the competition. Just imo.

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Weclock: "2. So you’re cheap. It’s okay – we are, too.
For less than the cost of a lunch at some lousy diner you can own some of the greatest games of all time. No matter how big the file is and how successful the game was, you’ll leave the table satisfied that you got a great deal for your money. As an added bonus, our house specialities won’t make you sick."

oddly enough, my firefox spelling plugin calls "specialities" misspelled as written from the GOG.com site..
Anyway, my point is, we're frugal gamers, GOG.com is aware of this, and I'm certain they aren't jealous, and they realize that as smart consumers we're going to go for the best deal, whether that's in immeasurable value like the extras and addons from GOG.com or in price. The products you receive from steam and the products here, are two completely different products in my opinion.
With Steam, you get a game. With GOG.com, you get support for the games you buy, plus growing interest. They secure new additional content frequently for the games you've already purchased, and you don't have to pay any extra for them. GOG.com gives away free games to all it's members. the GOG.com package is infinitely better, but if you notice the two games that I pointed out specifically are not on GOG.com nor do I suspect they will ever be (Bioshock = DRM, Portal = Steam lolkthxbai). These extras are not simply because they feel guilty or anything like that, it's a part of their model. There is after-sales support for all purchased games.
With a steam product, what do you get? you get the built in steam proprietary drm, that tells everyone who subscribes to steam, what you're playing.
So anyway, to close, I don't feel like GOG.com and Steam are competitors, sure they have some of the same games, but they don't have the same products. And with steam, you have a great deal of games that are indie developed, meaning they aren't "good old games." not yet anyway.
Post edited December 26, 2008 by Weclock
Posted December 26, 2008
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Belua: Just like Aurion said, I bought it for 3,74 Euros. Are you sure you're from Germany? :D But seriously, try refreshing the page or something. If the normal price is 14,99, it can't be 18 now.

Some other guy screenshotted it on the Steam forums, but they seem to have altered the price since then. Normal price was 20 EUR as well, going with Valve's alternative exchange rates.
Posted December 26, 2008
Screw Steam.
That is all.
Posted December 27, 2008
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Weclock: The products you receive from steam and the products here, are two completely different products in my opinion.
With Steam, you get a game. With GOG.com, you get support for the games you buy, plus growing interest. They secure new additional content frequently for the games you've already purchased, and you don't have to pay any extra for them. GOG.com gives away free games to all it's members. the GOG.com package is infinitely better,

I think it's the other way round really as most of the games on Steam are quite new so the websites for official support are still running ans still populated, Portal, Bioshock, Dawn of War, Tom Clancy games, Total War etc. GOG specializes in games that won't strain any computer that's been released in the past five years, heck even your watch can run most of what GOG offers, there is a distinct difference between them.
You mention that GOG gives away free games. I am not being funny but Beneath a Steel Sky and Lure of the Temptress isn't exactly what people would buy is it? With the rose tinted spectacles off, be honest, would you really buy, on any online website, either of the two games that are equivalent to a talking book?
If you did a random poll of a few gamers you'd probably get Steam as the premier supplier of everything online.
Post edited December 27, 2008 by Clagg
Posted December 27, 2008
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escapedturkey: Seems a bit unethical to advertise for the competition. Just imo.

As someone else said, Steam and GOG are not really competitors... I buy classic old games on GOG for really cheap, and I buy more recent blockbuster games on Steam for higher prices. They target different things.
I spent a LOT of money on Steam today.
Posted December 27, 2008
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Clagg: You mention that GOG gives away free games. I am not being funny but Beneath a Steel Sky and Lure of the Temptress isn't exactly what people would buy is it? With the rose tinted spectacles off, be honest, would you really buy, on any online website, either of the two games that are equivalent to a talking book?

Honestly? Yes. They are a classic point in gaming past. And I guess I'm one of those nutters that likes to read.
2D Point'n'Click adventure games don't really exist nowadays in mainstream gaming.
Besides, AdventureSoft has their games here of that genre and people buy them.
Posted December 27, 2008
Steam has indie games. And I support indie games :( About the games available on GOG and Steam, I prefer waiting to buy them here (Arx Fatalis for example), even if it means paying 5$ more :)
Posted December 27, 2008
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Clagg: You mention that GOG gives away free games. I am not being funny but Beneath a Steel Sky and Lure of the Temptress isn't exactly what people would buy is it? With the rose tinted spectacles off, be honest, would you really buy, on any online website, either of the two games that are equivalent to a talking book?

Uhm... Yes? You see, I belong to what Henry Rollins refers to as, in the words of George W. Bush, "The Cultural Elite". I am a reader. A museum-goer. A common-sense-haver. So hell yes, I'd buy it.
And your comparison to a talking book doesn't really hold up. Yes, adventure games tell a story, but most books don't require you to think quite that much to actually get through the story. (The Illuminatus! Trilogy being a notable exception. Man, that book twisted my brain around).
Most games try to tell some sort of story, regardless of their genre. Some do it really well. Others try to forcibly crowbar a story into a game where it isn't really needed (how much story does a breakout game need?). Many games that should tell a story, tacks it on as a kind of afterthought. This usually doesn't work too well.
All in all, storytelling is an important overall part of computer games.
Post edited December 27, 2008 by Wishbone
Posted December 27, 2008
I bought a few things off steam today. Spent about.. oh $70 on various things ranging from the PoP series (including the newest one) to Peggle for my father.
While I do admit that GoG has a lot that Steam doesn't, and vice versa, the fact that they have any of each others content, and the fact that I as a customer found myself weighing the benifits and losses of choosing one service over the other tells me that GoG and Steam are competitors.
Post edited December 27, 2008 by Freyar
Posted December 27, 2008
eventhough clearsky is off 50% now, i can't bring myself to buy it over steam. i much prefer boxed copies because it just FEELS better, rather than having this system where you have to log in and its in virtual space somewhere. i DO buy the valve titles through steam though, but i keep it at that.
Posted December 27, 2008
Thanks for the heads up but I never really liked steam and will save my money until GOG gets some more spooky games :P
Posted December 27, 2008
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Freyar: I bought a few things off steam today. Spent about.. oh $70 on various things ranging from the PoP series (including the newest one) to Peggle for my father.
While I do admit that GoG has a lot that Steam doesn't, and vice versa, the fact that they have any of each others content, and the fact that I as a customer found myself weighing the benifits and losses of choosing one service over the other tells me that GoG and Steam are competitors.

I'm pretty sure that's a matter of opinion. The way I see it there's no competition. Anything I can get DRM-free is a no-contest choice for me. Furthermore, the absurd need to log in to Steam to play anything you get from them is a big no-no. I'll only ever buy online games from Steam. Paying for an offline game that you have to be online to play? That's absolutely ridiculous.
Sure, you can play some Steam games in offline mode but that's still a pain even when you're allowed to do it. I accept that Steam is supposed to add features like a buddy list and such but when you force people to log into Steam to play a Steam game even though it's offline, that's going too far. I'm not always going to be at home to log onto Steam just to play a game. Also, the internet isn't magic, you can't just log on everywhere you go even though advertisers would like to have you believe otherwise.
Trust me, every game I buy will be from GoG first and Steam second. Basically, I've gone from considering DRM to being a minor annoyance to a down right insult. It used to be DRM was nothing more than a simple CD check or whatever but now you have to be online so they can inspect your install and so on and so forth and even then the DRM can break the game itself or even your computer (in extreme cases). I used to buy games without even thinking about DRM. These days, I always think about DRM first and then the game second. It shouldn't have to be this way and I'm glad some people finally recognized this.
That said, I am finding Bioshock to be extremely tempting at only $4.99. If I could play it without the need for Steam I'd be sold on it without a second thought. Then, I look at the Steam Bioshock forums and come back to my senses. Still, it's sad to pass on Bioshock even when it's so cheap.
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