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Posted October 26, 2012
Here's my conundrum... I'm a huge adventure game fan, so these bundles are both really sparking my interest, but I can probably only afford one. Obviously I'm going to get more quantity with the viking bundle, but Deponia seems to have sparked my interest, there is something charming about the graphics/story. It seems reminiscent of Monkey Island (one of my all-time favorite games, top 10) and sam and max style of humor.

As far as the viking bundle goes, I already own Legend of Grimrock, The Chronicles of Riddick: assault on dark athena, and Trine. I probably wouldn't get flatout, but I am interested in just about everything else (ground control maybe? opinions?).

Would love to hear some feedback on which bundle I would better enjoy, speaking from quality rather than quantity (I've got such a big backlog I could care less how many games I'm getting)
Posted October 26, 2012
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wildkard91: (I've got such a big backlog I could care less how many games I'm getting)
Hehehe *high five*

Get Deponia. If you really liked MI, you probably won't regret it.
Posted October 26, 2012
Deponia is really quite good as far as adventure games go. I would recommend it to anyone who really enjoyed the good old days of Lucasarts games.

As for the promo games, only Alan Wake and Longest Journey stand out from those you don't already have. Alan Wake is a terrific action suspense game and one of my favourites, and obvious the Longest Journey is an all time classic adventure game series. Of course, the first one is an adventure game that often relies on insanely illogical puzzles. It's an objectively "better" game than Deponia, but I probably had more fun with the latter.

Everything else you don't own is kind of meh, though I've never played Ground Control and I really liked Flatout despite my dislike of racing games. It's a tough choice you're faced with, I honestly can't recommend one deal over the other.
Posted October 26, 2012
Thanks for the advice guys. I think I will go for the longest journey and pinball redux (guilty pleasure). I want to get Alan Wake, but its a little bit pricey (I know! I'm cheap...). Argh, decisions!

I will definitely be getting Deponia, maybe just picking up the first game for now would be the way to go.
Posted October 26, 2012
1. The Viking promo ends in three days, the Deponia promo ends in 10 days. If you get more gaming money before that, buy the Viking promo.

2. In two months, everything will be on promo again (probably). Buy whatever you're more interested in playing right now.

3. The zeitgeist argument: Chaos on Deponia (in English) will be released on Nov 6. The Viking games are old(er). Get Deponia so you can play part 2 with the rest of the English-speaking world and share impressions (though probably not on GOG, there hasn't been a single nontechnical thread on the subforum; head over to daedalic.de instead).

4. The quality argument: Deponia is just straight-up better than anything you don't have from the Viking promo. I wouldn't recommend the game to just about anyone, because the puzzles only make sense if you have a sense of humor, and it's pretty unforgiving in terms of hints - but if you liked Monkey Island, you're going to like Deponia.
Posted October 26, 2012
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Starmaker: 1. The Viking promo ends in three days, the Deponia promo ends in 10 days. If you get more gaming money before that, buy the Viking promo.

2. In two months, everything will be on promo again (probably). Buy whatever you're more interested in playing right now.

3. The zeitgeist argument: Chaos on Deponia (in English) will be released on Nov 6. The Viking games are old(er). Get Deponia so you can play part 2 with the rest of the English-speaking world and share impressions (though probably not on GOG, there hasn't been a single nontechnical thread on the subforum; head over to daedalic.de instead).

4. The quality argument: Deponia is just straight-up better than anything you don't have from the Viking promo. I wouldn't recommend the game to just about anyone, because the puzzles only make sense if you have a sense of humor, and it's pretty unforgiving in terms of hints - but if you liked Monkey Island, you're going to like Deponia.
Thanks for your advice, I think you are absolutely right! I am definitely going to pick up Deponia. I decided to hold off on Alan wake for now and just pick up the first longest journey game, just to see how I like it. Other than that I'm going Deponia all the way! I can't wait to play it, going to start as soon as I finish the The book of Unwritten Tales (which I have also found to be a quality adventure game!).
Posted October 26, 2012
If you like strategy games, I recommend Ground Control while it's cheap.
Posted October 26, 2012
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wildkard91: Other than that I'm going Deponia all the way! I can't wait to play it, going to start as soon as I finish the The book of Unwritten Tales (which I have also found to be a quality adventure game!).
Here's how Deponia compares to The Book of Unwritten Tales:

1. Puzzles are way harder. For example, when solving the mmorpg puzzle in BoUT (TOWN SPOILERS), you may think, "I need to infest the server with bugs", or "I need to distract the monkey with something... ooh, this will do!". In Deponia, there's very little real-life logic involved, everything runs on jokes.

2. There are precious few hints. That's kind of bad (but forgivable, because the game is huge as it is). By hints I mean not the "click here if you get stuck" but the actual in-game supply of information you need to progress. You don't lose access to crucial information, ever (and the game never becomes unwinnable), but it is not duplicated. So if you need Hint X to solve Puzzle A, you will have continuous access to Hint X at least until Puzzle A is solved in case you forgot / clicked through / didn't pay attention the first time around, but if it didn't work for you, there won't be an alternative Hint X2 to set you on the right track.

3. Hotspots are highlighted, but they do not disappear when no longer useful. Now that I think of it, it's probably for the best - given that the game runs on jokes, removing hotspots would've been a videogame equivalent of explaining the jokes - "get it? get it? why aren't you laughing? how about now? get it yet?"

4. I have it on good authority that I'm good at adventure games, but I had to consult the walkthrough more often than I'd have liked. I felt that some puzzles were a bit unfair (such as when several puzzles are presented as parallel but they're really sequential), but, overall, I'm very happy with what I did manage to solve.
Posted October 26, 2012
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wildkard91: I will definitely be getting Deponia, maybe just picking up the first game for now would be the way to go.
Probably a good idea if you're not sure, but be warned that it does end somewhat abruptly. It's not quite a cliffhanger, but it did leave me a little unsatisfied, though the impending sequel fixed that feeling.

EDIT: Oh, just noticed that you liked BoUT. Yeah, get Deponia for sure. Similar vein of humour, harder puzzles.
Post edited October 26, 2012 by PenutBrittle
Posted October 26, 2012
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wildkard91: Other than that I'm going Deponia all the way! I can't wait to play it, going to start as soon as I finish the The book of Unwritten Tales (which I have also found to be a quality adventure game!).
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Starmaker: Here's how Deponia compares to The Book of Unwritten Tales:

1. Puzzles are way harder. For example, when solving the mmorpg puzzle in BoUT (TOWN SPOILERS), you may think, "I need to infest the server with bugs", or "I need to distract the monkey with something... ooh, this will do!". In Deponia, there's very little real-life logic involved, everything runs on jokes.

2. There are precious few hints. That's kind of bad (but forgivable, because the game is huge as it is). By hints I mean not the "click here if you get stuck" but the actual in-game supply of information you need to progress. You don't lose access to crucial information, ever (and the game never becomes unwinnable), but it is not duplicated. So if you need Hint X to solve Puzzle A, you will have continuous access to Hint X at least until Puzzle A is solved in case you forgot / clicked through / didn't pay attention the first time around, but if it didn't work for you, there won't be an alternative Hint X2 to set you on the right track.

3. Hotspots are highlighted, but they do not disappear when no longer useful. Now that I think of it, it's probably for the best - given that the game runs on jokes, removing hotspots would've been a videogame equivalent of explaining the jokes - "get it? get it? why aren't you laughing? how about now? get it yet?"

4. I have it on good authority that I'm good at adventure games, but I had to consult the walkthrough more often than I'd have liked. I felt that some puzzles were a bit unfair (such as when several puzzles are presented as parallel but they're really sequential), but, overall, I'm very happy with what I did manage to solve.
That sounds like a blast! I have found the book of unwritten tales a bit on the easy side, the only times I've gotten stuck was because I didn't see an item I was supposed to pick up because it blended in too well. I consider myself a hardcore adventurer, but I'm not really against having to use a walkthrough when I get stuck. I try to avoid using one for as long as possible and trying everything before I have to; I will usually take a break for a day or two and come back with fresh eyes before I try and use a walkthrough.

That game definitely sounds like my cup of tea though, especially if the puzzles are based on humor. I love games that don't take themselves too seriously! I can't wait to play.
Post edited October 26, 2012 by wildkard91
Posted October 26, 2012
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wildkard91: That game definitely sounds like my cup of tea though, especially if the puzzles are based on humor. I love games that don't take themselves too seriously! I can't wait to play.
I can already tell you you are going to love the radio puzzle. Especially the aftermath. ;)
Posted October 26, 2012
I also put my vote down for Deponia. Honestly, the game is absolutely brilliant, fun characters, great humour, hilarious dialogue, and a wonderful story.

The main character (Rufus) is an absolute twat, self centered, egotistical, narcissistic, and despite all that he's unbelievably likeable. You actually want him to succeed in his quest, because even with all his flaws he grows as a character throughout the story.

The world has a very nice post-apocalyptic-steampunk feel, and as much as it's classic cel animation the world never feels any less "real". The puzzles are mind benders, BUT never unnecessarily difficult - they just encourage you (rather than force you) to try new things, and think outside the box.

You should most certainly get the game (or two of the trilogy thus far made), because this is a game most certainly for the classic Lucas Arts. It also has a sense of humour that reminds me of Sierra's Space Quest series too.
Posted October 26, 2012
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Theta_Sigma: I also put my vote down for Deponia. Honestly, the game is absolutely brilliant, fun characters, great humour, hilarious dialogue, and a wonderful story.

The main character (Rufus) is an absolute twat, self centered, egotistical, narcissistic, and despite all that he's unbelievably likeable. You actually want him to succeed in his quest, because even with all his flaws he grows as a character throughout the story.

The world has a very nice post-apocalyptic-steampunk feel, and as much as it's classic cel animation the world never feels any less "real". The puzzles are mind benders, BUT never unnecessarily difficult - they just encourage you (rather than force you) to try new things, and think outside the box.

You should most certainly get the game (or two of the trilogy thus far made), because this is a game most certainly for the classic Lucas Arts. It also has a sense of humour that reminds me of Sierra's Space Quest series too.
That sounds great! Unfortunately I haven't been able to play space quest yet, I have it on backlog just haven't gotten around to playing it yet. I will probably play Deponia first, so it will give me a good taste of what space quest has in store for me.


Thank you everyone for all the feedback! Rep all around!
Post edited October 26, 2012 by wildkard91
Posted October 26, 2012
One more vote for Derponia!
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