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Hey all,

Here's my problem. My gf's 10 year old son started up his new Xbox yesterdaay morning, (it's only about 6 months old) and went to fire up a game, and his profile was missing....when we went into settings/memory/storage, ect., it was listed as "corrupted". I did a little online research, and found that while this isn't all that super common, it isn't unusual for this to happen for any number of reasons, and even unknown reasons. Anyway, could have been a power spike, xbox just didn't save his last game properly (he has always been careful about shutting it down properly, and waiting for saves to finish before moving on, so I am sure these types of things aren't the cause). But regardless of the cause, here's the problem. His XBox has never been online, or connected to XBOXLive, so the usual procedure, is to delete the corrupted "profile only", so the saves ect. remain on the harddrive, and then you redownload your profile from XBOXLive and can then re-install your saves that way. As he never went online, this can't be down unfortunately. Does anyone here know if it's possible to make a new profile, and then somehow recover those saves to it, without pulling the harddrive and screwing around with it on the PC to find them? That's definitely not gonna happen, as it's still under warranty, and it otherwise seems to be working fine, with the exclusion of the poor kid losing all his various game saves :(. From what I have found online, it pretty much seems he is screwed, since he has never been connected to XBL and the Cloud.

Any thoughts, or suggestions?

I have some saves on my XBOX from a few of the same games he has played like Forza 4 ,and Call of Duty. Would I be able to at least transfer some of my game saves to his new profile on his xbox, or would I have to make another profile in my own name on his xbox to be able to use them on his?

Appreciate any thoughts or advice guys
Post edited June 23, 2013 by Zoltan999
This question / problem has been solved by Fictionvisionimage
if i recall correctly you can transfer game saves to a pen drive but i just cant remember if in doing that it does so linked to your account, which i suspect they are.
what happens when you put a thumb drive in the xbox and you go to the file / storage option? will it let you copy any of the saves over to the thumb drive?
ive never tried messing about with backs up without a profile in place.
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Zoltan999: Appreciate any thoughts or advice guys
Here is a video tutorial for moving saves from one profile to another. It is generally used for people that got banned from live or want to download a save and use it on their profile, but it may work here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnphOclzHVg

The general process goes like this. Get a USB stick, then make new saves in the games for the new profile. After that transfer the old saves and the new saves to the USB stick. Then open them in a re-signer and copy the profile IDs from the new profile over the old saves and resign. Then the saves should be playable on the new profile.

As long as you can get the saves off the system it's worth a shot to try. Also once the new profile is setup, you can use the same program to back it up on your PC in case this happens in the future again.

Edit: Forgot to mention, make sure you back up the original saves before doing this in case something goes wrong.
Post edited June 23, 2013 by Fictionvision
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Hey, thanks for the responses guys. +1 to both of you. You'd think it should be easy, for something as simple as just wanting to transfer a save from one person's harddrive to another's, right? I mean it's not like we're trying to transfer a whole game and bypassing the purchase for cripes sake. If both people have the game, what's the big deal about transferring a save? Haven't decided if I am going to go through this yet, would hate to have my xbox get banned for something as trival as transferring a couple saves to my gf's son xbox. But with Microsoft, who knows what can happen. Thanks again guys, much appreciated :)
Post edited June 23, 2013 by Zoltan999
your welcome, i wonder if you could talk to m/s about it (online chat - they ironically have been helpful so far (that may change when i get on them about fixing my HALO 4 Console though!)) my worry is that it'll be viewed as something they want to ban ><.
What games are we talking about, any chance you could just grab the console and game until you reach his save location? or are 10 year olds better at gaming now-a-days?
also id keep an eye on the xbox, something caused the save file to corrupt.
Post edited June 23, 2013 by chezybezy
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Zoltan999: Hey, thanks for the responses guys. +1 to both of you. You'd think it should be easy, for something as simple as just wanting to transfer a save from one person's harddrive to another's, right? I mean it's not like we're trying to transfer a whole game and bypassing the purchase for cripes sake. If both people have the game, what's the big deal about transferring a save? Haven't decided if I am going to go through this yet, would hate to have my xbox get banned for something as trival as transferring a couple saves to my gf's son xbox. But with Microsoft, who knows what can happen. Thanks again guys, much appreciated :)
Achievements is the whole reason for this. They don't want people "cheating" to get them.... which ended up being worked around anyways.

They won't ban someone's xbox for using modded saves, at worst they put a "Cheater" tag on the xbox live profile for the account using the saves, but even that is rare. If you do try this, just use saves from the other offline 360 and put them back on it after re-signing. Since it has never been online nothing would be detectable.
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chezybezy: your welcome, i wonder if you could talk to m/s about it (online chat - they ironically have been helpful so far (that may change when i get on them about fixing my HALO 4 Console though!)) my worry is that it'll be viewed as something they want to ban ><.
What games are we talking about, any chance you could just grab the console and game until you reach his save location? or are 10 year olds better at gaming now-a-days?
also id keep an eye on the xbox, something caused the save file to corrupt.
Yeah, they've been helpful to me in the past as well, when I was having trouble dllding a demo. I definitely don't want to get a ban from them for trying to help the poor kid out. He's freaking a bit, because of a lot of progress he made in a few games, and and loathes having to replay all of them to get that far again (and I can surely sympathize with him). One promising thing is that, under settings and memory, I can still see all the save themselves are still sitting on the harddrive, and upon selecting them, it gives you the usual "copy/move/delete" options. First thing I am going to try and do, is make him a new profile, with the same name, and see if I can "move" these saves to his new profile from the hard drive, after first starting each game up, and making an initial save for each game. Perhaps it will let me transfer them....it may not, but it's worth a try, before incurring Bill gates wrath ;)

Thanks again bud :)
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Fictionvision: Achievements is the whole reason for this. They don't want people "cheating" to get them.... which ended up being worked around anyways.

They won't ban someone's xbox for using modded saves, at worst they put a "Cheater" tag on the xbox live profile for the account using the saves, but even that is rare. If you do try this, just use saves from the other offline 360 and put them back on it after re-signing. Since it has never been online nothing would be detectable.
Gottcha. Think we're gonna get him a free Live account just to help prevent something like this from happening again. Appreciate the help :)
Post edited June 23, 2013 by Zoltan999
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Zoltan999:
just a thought you can see the saves, copy them to a pen drive, then go from there.
i wonder if you 'transfer' his account (account, not game saves) to another xbox then 'transfer' it back would it detect it again?
basically if they are there its just a matter of 'fixing' the profile, but if it has never been online you can choose to recreate the account with the same name no?

i wonder if you can create the same account on the same console, or if that wont work, create the same account on yours 'transfer' it by normal ms methods (from the pen drive) onto his xbox and see if it will link the old saves with the 'same named new' profile from yours?

and i take it you have tried the recover profile thing just in case it some how works?

disclaimer: again i have no idea, ive not done this and you could be worse off than you started.

anyone know if you delete a local profile does it delete the game saves?
Post edited June 23, 2013 by chezybezy
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Zoltan999:
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chezybezy: just a thought you can see the saves, copy them to a pen drive, then go from there.
i wonder if you 'transfer' his account (account, not game saves) to another xbox then 'transfer' it back would it detect it again?
basically if they are there its just a matter of 'fixing' the profile, but if it has never been online you can choose to recreate the account with the same name no?

i wonder if you can create the same account on the same console, or if that wont work, create the same account on yours 'transfer' it by normal ms methods (from the pen drive) onto his xbox and see if it will link the old saves with the 'same named new' profile from yours?

and i take it you have tried the recover profile thing just in case it some how works?

disclaimer: again i have no idea, ive not done this and you could be worse off than you started.

anyone know if you delete a local profile does it delete the game saves?
Well, here's the poop. The XBox wouldn't allow me to even just transfer the saves to a thumb drive from his XBox. As his account/profile is corrupted, nothing can be done with it (other than deleting it, which if you choose the correct option, will leave the saves on the XBox harddrive..which at one point I did). Since his profile is corrupted, trying to transfer that to anything was also impossible (and yeah, I tried recreating the same account to see if the saves would transfer, but no dice). Oddly, I found his most recent Forza 4 save was also corrupted, which leads me to believe he may have shut his xbox down manually while it was saving, or before it closed the game out. He denies this, but I think he may be fibbing. lol. At anyrate, since he has no online profile saved, and I am unable to to to do anything at all with his existing saves (so that pretty much nixes trying Fictionvision's solution above also). I think he is basically SOL. The sorta good news is, he seems to have now accepted it all fairly well (which he is not known for, lol), and after creating a new profile, began enjoying his new NBA2K game without a hitch. Had I been in his shoes, and lost all my saves for everything on my 360, I'd be moping from here to Christmas, so I gotta give the little man some credit. Thanks again for trying to help, it looks like he'll live, and my girlfriend will have a little less stress coming from that direction, heh heh
Post edited June 23, 2013 by Zoltan999
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Zoltan999:
Thanks for letting us know, if i hear of anything that might help ill pass it on to you. (ive been know to get back to people with a solution months down the line).
is there anyway you can connect it to the net with his silver account now and just have a back up in future?
im sorry nothing has worked. There is a small chance it actually just hit a corrupt sector when it made that save ya know? anyways just keep an eye on it if it happens again get the hdd / xbox (im unsure where the game saves are being stored with your post) back to MS it will save any potential problems in the future.
great news he has taken it so well, wow i have no idea what i would like to live with it that happened to me. maybe its relief that its at least working, in that case expect moaning in about 2 days :p.
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Zoltan999:
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chezybezy: Thanks for letting us know, if i hear of anything that might help ill pass it on to you. (ive been know to get back to people with a solution months down the line).
is there anyway you can connect it to the net with his silver account now and just have a back up in future?
im sorry nothing has worked. There is a small chance it actually just hit a corrupt sector when it made that save ya know? anyways just keep an eye on it if it happens again get the hdd / xbox (im unsure where the game saves are being stored with your post) back to MS it will save any potential problems in the future.
great news he has taken it so well, wow i have no idea what i would like to live with it that happened to me. maybe its relief that its at least working, in that case expect moaning in about 2 days :p.
Yeah, we're getting him a free silver acct., at least his profile can then be dlld later if this ever happens again. As you said, it's possible the hd has a bad sector, but to be honest, when I asked him if he ever shut it down manually while a game was still on, he looked pretty guilty when telling me "no", and oddly when I told him doing that can corrupt the profile and save, it was from that point on he settled down and seemed to accept the facts (also, my gf says she has seen him shut it down that way in the past, even though he denies it.. Gotta feeling he won't be doing that anymore, lol). You're right though, we'll keep an eye on it, and see if something wacky happens again, cause if it does have a bad hd, we gotta get it back while under warranty if possible. have a good Sunday night bro...just finished cuttin' the grass in the humid heat. Time for a shower, a cold one, and the bed ain't too far away after that ;-)