Lou: He is 19 and never played not to my knowledge. Serious gaming started for him started at 14 when I introduced him to Lineage II - where we have both played off and on for years. He just recently bought himself a PS3 and a WII and has been playing those exclusively.

Rohan15: Ah, I thought he was younger, but sadly I tend not to think in advance to my replies....also, it is like 10:25 here and I have a half-day tomorrow, so school can kiss my ass. I'd keep him from Dead or Alive then.

Wraith: Well, it depends on which DOA. DOAX, definitely. DOA2 or 3 would be fine, but they aren't on PS3. I tend to think there is a difference between strong sexual imagery and nudity.

Lou: I certainly do not want to start a flame war - only sell the game and try and re-coop some of his money, but harmless is subjective. He pre-ordered without checking the rating on the game and would not have ordered it if he had. So he really doesn't want to play it. We all bow to some level of control if you want to call it that. I see it as a choice and he is making the right one.

Lou: He knows that his girlfriend would not want him to play the game and he loves and respects her enough to not play it.

Aliasalpha: Oh yeah, not wanting a flame war or anything, just trying to illustrate that the content is apparently (I keep saying that because its not released here until tomorrow, I'm getting impatient) built into the story as an essential and non-gratuitous manner which is a damn sight better than most games and films manage so the actual mature take on it (as opposed to "check out these fucking tits! Our game is so mature!!") might change the playing field a bit.

Lou: So - if there is any sole out there that would like to help him out and you have not purchased this game he would like to sell it.

Aliasalpha: Well I just finished the game and have a more informed opinion of the nudity. My original belief based on the stuff I'd read was indeed correct. The nudity in the game is a massive non-event.
There is absolutely nothing sensational or even significantly unequal about it. In my playthrough I saw a man topless maybe 3 times and a woman topless twice.
The first instance of both involve a shower and are almost shot for shot identical, as if Cage anticipated a scandal and made the scenes the same just to take the piss, you see arse and chest in both and they don't last long enough to have a wank to, trust me I tried!
The second time was simply a guy without a shirt tending his wounds that would cause no raised eyebrows because of the sexism about men without shirts on.
The third was a love scene the same as you'd see in most any movie, the interactive elements (kissing, disrobing with an over the shoulder shot etc) last maybe a minute unless you keep stuffing them up and you see one of the woman's nipples for maybe as long as 2 seconds.
To be blunt, if he can't/won't play the game because of the nudity then he'll have an very limited range of acceptable movies as well. It'd really suck if he ends up seeing footage of it in 5 years and realises he passed on one of the best and most intense games made in this generation over some concerns about irrelevant amounts of minor nudity

Lou: He is 19 and never played not to my knowledge. Serious gaming started for him started at 14 when I introduced him to Lineage II - where we have both played off and on for years. He just recently bought himself a PS3 and a WII and has been playing those exclusively.

Lou: I am amazed at the mature attitudes here as this could easily have degenerated into an ugly thread.

captfitz: you sound like an awesome dad, i wish my dad and i could have been guildies in an mmo