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Posted June 19, 2011
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DrakeFox: But with RDR not yet getting to PC it might be a bad indication.
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Delixe: Red Dead and LA Noir. It seems Rockstar are finished with the PC. At least I will assume so until someone from Rockstar says otherwise.
I don't even bother to check their updates now. Neither am I feeling any big loss with them abandoning the PC. It'll be good if they release for PC in future but in the mean time I'm not really bothered with them.
Posted June 19, 2011
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cw8: I don't even bother to check their updates now. Neither am I feeling any big loss with them abandoning the PC. It'll be good if they release for PC in future but in the mean time I'm not really bothered with them.
I've never subscribed to that line of thinking. Any developer who abandons the PC is a big loss and one we never recover from. Even indie developers are starting to favor the Xbox arcade over the PC these days and if this trend continues into the next hardware generation PC releases will be treated as a novelty rather than the norm.
Posted June 19, 2011
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Delixe: I've never subscribed to that line of thinking. Any developer who abandons the PC is a big loss and one we never recover from. Even indie developers are starting to favor the Xbox arcade over the PC these days and if this trend continues into the next hardware generation PC releases will be treated as a novelty rather than the norm.
Xbox?? Time for me to quit gaming :D
Or I'll just replay the old PC games over and over.
Posted June 19, 2011
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cw8: Xbox?? Time for me to quit gaming :D
Or I'll just replay the old PC games over and over.
Point = missed.
Posted June 19, 2011
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Delixe: One thing console kiddies will never understand is GTA totally transforms on the PC when you can simply dick around with mods and trainers.
I've never tried mods for GTA, what do they add to the games?
Posted June 19, 2011
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aymerict: I've never tried mods for GTA, what do they add to the games?
Pretty much whatever you like really. There is a native trainer mod for GTA IV that allows you to change absolutely everything. Also the handling mod for the cars makes driving much less painful. There are teams working on porting GTA III, Vice City and San Andreas to GTA IV's Rage engine but we all know how well those massive mods work out...
Posted June 19, 2011
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aymerict: I've never tried mods for GTA, what do they add to the games?
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Delixe: Pretty much whatever you like really. There is a native trainer mod for GTA IV that allows you to change absolutely everything. Also the handling mod for the cars makes driving much less painful. There are teams working on porting GTA III, Vice City and San Andreas to GTA IV's Rage engine but we all know how well those massive mods work out...
Well in fact I like driving in GTA IV!
I think i'll check mods for GTA 3 or Vice City because I want to replay them soon.
Posted June 19, 2011
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cw8: Xbox?? Time for me to quit gaming :D
Or I'll just replay the old PC games over and over.
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Delixe: Point = missed.
Yeah, I know. Just that the industry doesn't seem to listen to us much, sadly. Their ignorant perception that PC gaming = piracy, PC gaming = expensive, and that money is only in the consoles, always seem to hold much more weight than whatever we can say or reply. So now I'm mostly not bothered anymore unlike what I do last time replying to every person who spread sh*t about PC gaming in every website or forum I see.

Though pointing out issues to publishers directly seem to work on some of them. Many of us complained about SSFIV AE's PC offline restrictions, I posted as well asking them to learn from The Witcher 2 and CD Projekt, shortly after they announced the restriction will be removed after the game is launched.
Posted June 19, 2011
In fact, I justplayed through the whole GTA IV complete until today. I just completed it becasue I felt I had to, like you watch some movies that don't interest you but everybody is talking about them. The game is boring, and controls range from bad to terrible (helicoperts, anyone?). I realize that some people like that "do some stuff you want that is optional" but for me, although I have always been a completionist, the sidequests and stuff were even more boring and I skipped most of it. The dialoge is nicely written, as are the details like radio ads, the city is atmospheric, too, but the stories themselves are nothing to write home about and pretty shallow if you play them through and skip the optional stuff. And graphicswise I don't understand how this game can be so demanding at all.

All in all mediocre and, for me as it is the first GTA in 3D, I enjoyed GTA 1 more back then.
Posted June 19, 2011
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Vault_Boy: In fact, I justplayed through the whole GTA IV complete until today. I just completed it becasue I felt I had to, like you watch some movies that don't interest you but everybody is talking about them. The game is boring, and controls range from bad to terrible (helicoperts, anyone?). I realize that some people like that "do some stuff you want that is optional" but for me, although I have always been a completionist, the sidequests and stuff were even more boring and I skipped most of it. The dialoge is nicely written, as are the details like radio ads, the city is atmospheric, too, but the stories themselves are nothing to write home about and pretty shallow if you play them through and skip the optional stuff. And graphicswise I don't understand how this game can be so demanding at all.

All in all mediocre and, for me as it is the first GTA in 3D, I enjoyed GTA 1 more back then.
It's probably very demanding because that the city is huge, and that there are literally thousand of pedestrians (that are almost as detailed as the main characters) NPCs that the game control simultaniously (not counting the cars). I once saw the whole city from the top of a building and the whole thing was still moving (the cars still stopped at the lights, etc.). I found it all very impressive.
Posted June 19, 2011
I didn't like GTA IV it just felt like crap,played like crap, drove like crap, was way up it's own arse about giving some kind of message and not being y'know fun and everything looked like it had baby food smeared over it. Although, I did play PS3 version.

and no I haven't played any of the DLC, because why should I pay more to actually have fun in a game I bought?

Just Cause 2 knocked the spots off of GTA IV.
Posted June 19, 2011
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cheesetruncheon: I didn't like GTA IV it just felt like crap,played like crap, drove like crap, was way up it's own arse about giving some kind of message and not being y'know fun and everything looked like it had baby food smeared over it. Although, I did play PS3 version.

and no I haven't played any of the DLC, because why should I pay more to actually have fun in a game I bought?

Just Cause 2 knocked the spots off of GTA IV.
I got a bit tired of Just Cause 2 after a while, but I agree. Compared to GTA IV it's great. I just got started on Saint's Row 2. Seems like the devs had played GTA IV and was so disappointed that Rockstar forgot to add fun to the game (apart from radio and TV), and set out to make a fun version of the game. Over the top and all.

Too bad the PC version plays not very good. Finally found a way to get it properly playable for me. Using a joypad for driving and walking around casually, and swapping to mouse+keyboard for when there's actual aiming to do. Still within the first hour of gameplay I've seen more potential for fun than I experienced in GTA IV.

If rockstar puts out a GTA V around the same time Saint's row the third is released, and I decide to pick either up, it won't be rockstar getting my money at that time.
Posted June 19, 2011
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DrakeFox: snip
completely agree on Saints Row 2 i played it the beginning of the year and had so much fun it was fantastic.

Then me and my mate dressed up like the two from pulp fiction and just had alot of fun pissing about.
Posted June 19, 2011
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cw8: Yeah, I know. Just that the industry doesn't seem to listen to us much, sadly.
Well, how can they?

You read forums. There are a million voices screaming a million different and separate opinions all at the same time, 24 hours a day.

What are "we" saying? If you know what I mean...
Posted June 20, 2011
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POLE7645: It's probably very demanding because that the city is huge, and that there are literally thousand of pedestrians (that are almost as detailed as the main characters) NPCs that the game control simultaniously (not counting the cars). I once saw the whole city from the top of a building and the whole thing was still moving (the cars still stopped at the lights, etc.). I found it all very impressive.
The game does not display all these folks at once. You can see that when driving by several cars inside a tunnel or on a bridge. Then stop your car and wait... only a handful will drive by you and not the whole dozen or so that you overtook just a few moments before, the others just vanished. And the game plays on up to six year old consoles quite wll, meaning it is not that demanding but badly optimized for the PC.
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