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EA has a thing called project 10$. Where they want us to pay 10$ on top of what the used game already costs. Hope its never implemented, but just even that there considering this is complete bull sh..t.
Full story here--http://www.tomsguide.com/us/ea-project-ten-dollars-dlc,news-5797.html
Post edited February 11, 2010 by begolf00
Wait... companies want money from people playing their games? Such a travesty!
Especially since said DLC is voluntary anyway. It has already implemented. ME2 and DA:O both have DLC that comes with purchase and is non-transferable. That's what they're talking about. It's not that bad.
Post edited February 11, 2010 by PoSSeSSeDCoW
This is one of those types of ideas that will really get piracy going.
Dude, I want you money!
As long as content is not withheld from the game and is stuff developed after the content lockdown, I say more power to them. Places like EB selling used copies of games for $5 less than new ones to undercut sales that actually help the industry and keep all the profit for themselves... yeah fuck them
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PoSSeSSeDCoW: Wait... companies want money from people playing their games? Such a travesty!

Yeah, clearly what they should also do is charge people who play their games on a friend's computer or console too. Oh wait, I'm being sarcastic, because that's fucking stupid.
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PoSSeSSeDCoW: Wait... companies want money from people playing their games? Such a travesty!
Especially since said DLC is voluntary anyway. It has already implemented. ME2 and DA:O both have DLC that comes with purchase and is non-transferable. That's what they're talking about. It's not that bad.

that's the same thing I interrupted it as... Gamers these days make more noise about every little thing they don't like more than fox news.
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Aliasalpha: As long as content is not withheld from the game and is stuff developed after the content lockdown, I say more power to them.

Given the fact that this also applies to the tsunami of 0 day DLC EA are cranking out, you're going to missing a substantial amount of content buying second hand. Oh and EB and other retailers aren't the only places to buy second hand. Who buys from retail outlets anymore anyway?
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PoSSeSSeDCoW: Wait... companies want money from people playing their games? Such a travesty!
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Navagon: Yeah, clearly what they should also do is charge people who play their games on a friend's computer or console too. Oh wait, I'm being sarcastic, because that's fucking stupid.

No, they should charge you for even so much as thinking of showing the game box, a screenshot, or mentioning the title to your friend. Not to mention the friend playing your copy of the came on your computer.
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Navagon: . Who buys from retail outlets anymore anyway?

A lot of people do actually, just go into a local gamestop and theres gonna be at least 10 people there at any given time... at least where I live.
You'd have to pay for a DLC anyway, hence the name, DLC. What's everyone complaining about?
Though greedy, it is a good business model overall. At least they didn't decide to fix it so that you couldn't sell their games second hand at all.
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Gimgak: You'd have to pay for a DLC anyway, hence the name, DLC. What's everyone complaining about?

No, DLC stands for "downloadable content" and is just that, content you download. There's no mention of it being extra paid content, it can just as well be free.
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Gimgak: A lot of people do actually, just go into a local gamestop and theres gonna be at least 10 people there at any given time... at least where I live.
You'd have to pay for a DLC anyway, hence the name, DLC. What's everyone complaining about?

It was a rhetorical question. Obviously people still do because retail outlets would be out of business otherwise. The point was that buying from brick and mortar stores is nothing more than a good way to get ripped off severely.
As stated. This applies to 0 day DLC too. Not downloadable expansion packs released at a later date. But rather content that's actually provided with the game. They call it DLC = subsequent buyers denied access to it.
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Miaghstir: No, they should charge you for even so much as thinking of showing the game box, a screenshot, or mentioning the title to your friend. Not to mention the friend playing your copy of the came on your computer.

They could so easily have rendered the second hand market worthless by significantly dropping the prices of their games several months after launch. But instead they can't quite get away from the idea of screwing over the customer = ticket to success.
Wanna know what's funny? The fact that they're already practising the price drop policy and it sure as hell worked on me. They never needed to do this. But being EA they went ahead with it anyway.
Post edited February 11, 2010 by Navagon
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Gimgak: A lot of people do actually, just go into a local gamestop and theres gonna be at least 10 people there at any given time... at least where I live.
You'd have to pay for a DLC anyway, hence the name, DLC. What's everyone complaining about?
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Navagon: It was a rhetorical question. Obviously people still do because retail outlets would be out of business otherwise. The point was that buying from brick and mortar stores is nothing more than a good way to get ripped off severely.
As stated. This applies to 0 day DLC too. Not downloadable expansion packs released at a later date. But rather content that's actually provided with the game. They call it DLC = subsequent buyers denied access to it.
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Miaghstir: No, they should charge you for even so much as thinking of showing the game box, a screenshot, or mentioning the title to your friend. Not to mention the friend playing your copy of the came on your computer.

They could so easily have rendered the second hand market worthless by significantly dropping the prices of their games several months after launch. But instead they can't quite get away from the idea of screwing over the customer = ticket to success.
Wanna know what's funny? The fact that they're already practising the price drop policy and it sure as hell worked on me. They never needed to do this. But being EA they went ahead with it anyway.

Again, they drop the prices of their games. Guess what? Gamestop isn't going to be selling something for 45 bucks if it is available new for 20 :p. I too wait for price drops on a lot of games, but that isn't really going to stop the used game market.
While I find some 0Day DLC to be questionable, you also have to keep in mind that it isn't (always) just a case of chopping things out. After a certain point, the art and level design people aren't needed anymore, since the game is being beta tested and patched. So rather than sit on their hands (or go work on a different game), they can work on more content.
I find the title hilarious.
The McDonald's down the street wants your money too. SO WHAT ? Yeah - you're either going to buy something or not. There's no such thing as "greed" here - there are only things you consider worth a particular amount of money and those you don't. If the company doesn't make a profit - it will eventually "die"; if it does - it will use this money to make more products so it can make even more money. It's a win-win situation, really.
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Gundato: Again, they drop the prices of their games. Guess what? Gamestop isn't going to be selling something for 45 bucks if it is available new for 20 :p. I too wait for price drops on a lot of games, but that isn't really going to stop the used game market.
While I find some 0Day DLC to be questionable, you also have to keep in mind that it isn't (always) just a case of chopping things out. After a certain point, the art and level design people aren't needed anymore, since the game is being beta tested and patched. So rather than sit on their hands (or go work on a different game), they can work on more content.

Yeah, I definitely support their price drop policy. No two ways around that. :D I picked up a whole load of £5 games right off of their site, including Mass Effect and Dead Space.
My problem with DLC falls into two categories:
1. So many different versions of the game result and not one of them is complete. It just leaves me waiting for the GotY version of the game, even when I'd otherwise be tempted to pay more for it earlier on. Dragon Age is a perfect example. In fact, so is Mass Effect 2 now I'm actually enjoying the first one.
2. It's being used against the consumer like this. I don't know what kind of DRM they're using to stop second hand sales, but I bet this is going to cause just as many headaches for original owners as Microsoft's DLC DRM on the 360 does.