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Posted April 19, 2014
Tag Team Game Rumble!

You could hear the sound of crowds going wild! You could hear hear the epic guitar riffs going off! You could hear the sound of muscular bodies slamming against the arena floor! No, this wasn't the echoes of Wrestlemania XXX. It was our very own special [url=http://www.gog.com/gamerumble]Battle of the Games 2014 promo, with stables of amazing games facing off each other three by three in explosive combat. You, dear GOGgers, were the referees. Now, the time has come for the grand finale! We know who won, and who did not. All of the participating games are now simultaneously on sale for the next 48 hours!
Posted April 16, 2014
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AnimalMother117: Indie Day!? No, not Indie Day! If indie games were any good they'd be with the rest of them! (Just kidding, not seriously I'm not a huge fan of indie games, but maybe if the price is low enough.)
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CarrionCrow: It seems, by the looks of things, a lot of people have used the "indies are good to support rather than the bloated companies that seem to be sliding into sheer money grubbing mediocrity" angle as a means to foist a metric ton of straight-up crap onto the market. And while they do that, the whole retro graphics and gameplay approach keeps getting used as excuses for unimaginative ugly looking crap to boot. Even as an 8-bit Nintendo/SNES kid, it's getting painful and annoying to watch.
You make a good point and I can't disagree with what you said, but I still think the indie scene is a much needed breath of life into the video game industry. It's true that with the opening of game development to pretty much every one with a bit of know-how you're going to get flooded by a multitude of mediocre, sub-par video games made by small teams trying to cash in on one-hit phenomena, following the "rules" of what's easier to develop (the indie version of market studies): retro-looking insanely difficult puzzle platformers that end up being mediocre repetitions of one another, in spite of what personal touch the devs claim they brought in. This is true. But, from my experience with the indie scene, you're more likely to find sheer works of passion, truly original, fun, immersive, innovative and worthwhile projects than you do in the "standard" big studio video game business.

Indies are less likely to suffer from dumb "sequel-itis", designed only by market analysts who probably never even played a video game in their lives to milk a project and make the most money out of it possible. In the indie side of things, if a developer envisions a game as a single, complete experience, they're free to make a single game and move on, the only pressure they might get to make sequels comes from fans, but fans are also more likely to understand the value of a game as a standalone experience with no need for sequels. Independent developers don't have to deal with big head honcho publishers telling them how to make their games, changing design decisions during development because "this is what the target audience wants, so you'll have to change it". Indie developers have a much more free environment, the problem is that there are simply way too many of them, and you have to sift through a huge deal of 'meh' iterative games in order to find one that truly stands out -- the thing is, when you do, it sure as hell beats anything the big studios are putting out. There are a lot of hurdles and obstacles small developers can't overcome, mostly the fund limitations, so they have to bypass them by being creative, artistic and passionate -- three core values that seem to be lost to big studios for ages, now.

Obviously, there are great AAA titles that get released every once in a while, but it's even harder to find those among the tedious flooding of yearly releases than it is to find indie games worth our while.

I, for one, welcome an indie day during this promo. I'm glad the indie video game scene exists, because it is my firm belief that, if it wasn't for indies, the future of the video game industry would seem even bleaker than what it does now. I'm glad we got a , a [url=http://www.gog.com/game/primordia]Primordia, a Dear Esther, a Stanley Parable, an Ether One, a Steamworld Dig, the [url=http://www.gog.com/game/trine]Trines, a Broken Age, a Valdis Story, a Kentucky Route Zero, a , a [url=http://www.gog.com/game/legend_of_grimrock]Legend of Grimrock, a Dead Synchronicity, The Cat Lady, an FTL, etc, etc. Wouldn't many of these be worth picking up if GOG had an indie day during this promo?! I think so.

Let there be indie games for a long time to come.
Posted April 16, 2014
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CarrionCrow: It seems, by the looks of things, a lot of people have used the "indies are good to support rather than the bloated companies that seem to be sliding into sheer money grubbing mediocrity" angle as a means to foist a metric ton of straight-up crap onto the market. And while they do that, the whole retro graphics and gameplay approach keeps getting used as excuses for unimaginative ugly looking crap to boot. Even as an 8-bit Nintendo/SNES kid, it's getting painful and annoying to watch.
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groze: You make a good point and I can't disagree with what you said, but I still think the indie scene is a much needed breath of life into the video game industry. It's true that with the opening of game development to pretty much every one with a bit of know-how you're going to get flooded by a multitude of mediocre, sub-par video games made by small teams trying to cash in on one-hit phenomena, following the "rules" of what's easier to develop (the indie version of market studies): retro-looking insanely difficult puzzle platformers that end up being mediocre repetitions of one another, in spite of what personal touch the devs claim they brought in. This is true. But, from my experience with the indie scene, you're more likely to find sheer works of passion, truly original, fun, immersive, innovative and worthwhile projects than you do in the "standard" big studio video game business.

Indies are less likely to suffer from dumb "sequel-itis", designed only by market analysts who probably never even played a video game in their lives to milk a project and make the most money out of it possible. In the indie side of things, if a developer envisions a game as a single, complete experience, they're free to make a single game and move on, the only pressure they might get to make sequels comes from fans, but fans are also more likely to understand the value of a game as a standalone experience with no need for sequels. Independent developers don't have to deal with big head honcho publishers telling them how to make their games, changing design decisions during development because "this is what the target audience wants, so you'll have to change it". Indie developers have a much more free environment, the problem is that there are simply way too many of them, and you have to sift through a huge deal of 'meh' iterative games in order to find one that truly stands out -- the thing is, when you do, it sure as hell beats anything the big studios are putting out. There are a lot of hurdles and obstacles small developers can't overcome, mostly the fund limitations, so they have to bypass them by being creative, artistic and passionate -- three core values that seem to be lost to big studios for ages, now.

Obviously, there are great AAA titles that get released every once in a while, but it's even harder to find those among the tedious flooding of yearly releases than it is to find indie games worth our while.

I, for one, welcome an indie day during this promo. I'm glad the indie video game scene exists, because it is my firm belief that, if it wasn't for indies, the future of the video game industry would seem even bleaker than what it does now. I'm glad we got a , a [url=http://www.gog.com/game/primordia]Primordia, a Dear Esther, a Stanley Parable, an Ether One, a Steamworld Dig, the [url=http://www.gog.com/game/trine]Trines, a Broken Age, a Valdis Story, a Kentucky Route Zero, a , a [url=http://www.gog.com/game/legend_of_grimrock]Legend of Grimrock, a Dead Synchronicity, The Cat Lady, an FTL, etc, etc. Wouldn't many of these be worth picking up if GOG had an indie day during this promo?! I think so.

Let there be indie games for a long time to come.
I agree. It definitely has a place, and if anything, the indies are what will help pull the industry through once it hits the wall. The triple A companies will end up screwing themselves trying to go for flash instead of substance, and the morons at the wheel will keep on beating their heads against the idea of people caring less about pretty pictures and more about things like good characters, good stories, good gameplay, little things like being able to evoke emotions and provoke real thought. What annoys me is that the shitty indie people are bringing down the good ones by association. What annoys me is the thought of people waving the indie banner when in reality it's about their stuff being cheap garbage being made for a quick buck. To me, it spits in the face of small crews doing good things. Right now I'm waiting for Wasteland 2 (on GOG, of course) because I'm disgusted with what a bigger publisher has done with a series that I used to love, and the indie group is doing it completely differently. If all the indies went away, to me there's no seeming bleaker. It straight up would be. That would be the point where the majority of the industry was being controlled by the number crunchers and the bullshit marketers. That's when games being made by people who couldn't tell a compelling story to save their lives and don't even want to try to would have no soul whatsoever.
Posted April 16, 2014
Will the promo run for 5 days?
Posted April 16, 2014
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johnnygoging: you might use this format to debut a game in the future. just shove up two games that you have not released yet, and let people pick which one gets in the sale and watch them lose their minds asking about the other one.
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JMich: You mean like Torchlight and Chronicles of Riddick?
ah. well nevermind :)
Posted April 16, 2014
this is going to be a close one today. about a 500 vote difference with mere hours to go . . .
Posted April 16, 2014
Yep been holding steady for the last 8 or so hours..unless there is a last minute upvoting........
Posted April 16, 2014
I've been reading about Caesar III vs. Caesar IV, but any opinions on GOG about it?

Also, the way I read it, for Z + P, it seems like you just build armies, and don't have to do any combat. Is that right?
Posted April 16, 2014
I would love to buy Empire Earth series on -80% or -75% :-P
Posted April 16, 2014
Zeus has been on my wishlist since forever. I'm buying it whether it's 75 or 60% reduction.
Posted April 16, 2014
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cmdr_flashheart: I've been reading about Caesar III vs. Caesar IV, but any opinions on GOG about it?

Also, the way I read it, for Z + P, it seems like you just build armies, and don't have to do any combat. Is that right?
This is for Z+P:
You have to build up your city with houses for the better standing who represent your improved army - for that you need horses, wine, olives, clothes, etc. When you see that the city has developed enough in the army screen you can go and invade foreign colonies. There is basically no fighting, only if you wish to do it when you defend your city, but you can bribe enemy armies to go home :)
Post edited April 16, 2014 by Matruchus
Posted April 16, 2014
Hmm Empire Earth won't prevail, interesting...
Posted April 16, 2014
Excuse my stupidity, but how are you supposed to vote? If it requires facebook or twitter, forget it.
Post edited April 16, 2014 by kbear99
Posted April 16, 2014
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kbear99: Excuse my stupidity, but how are you supposed to vote? If it requires facebook or twitter, forget it.
You just click on the battle of the games page and vote for the games no facebook or twitter.
If you cant find it - the link here: http://www.gog.com/gamerumble

Got Unreal Gold in the deal. Can't wait to try it out since in my time we played basically only Quake ;)
Post edited April 16, 2014 by Matruchus
Posted April 16, 2014
Ok, thanks. So I guess you just click one of the game links. That means I've been voting for both sides when I was trying to read up about each of them. :)
Posted April 16, 2014
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kbear99: Ok, thanks. So I guess you just click one of the game links. That means I've been voting for both sides when I was trying to read up about each of them. :)
There will be a "vote for" option for each set of games. Clicking on the games themselves does nothing.
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