StingingVelvet: I have a three year old flip-phone I got for free because I don't give a shit. I only want it to make calls, and it does that well.

Red_Avatar: Anyone with some common sense would try to keep his phone and his mobile PC separately. Okay, there's *some* advantages to combining the two:
- you can combine your address book and emails with your phone calls (modern phones do this anyway, letting you sync these)
- you can use the camera to make vid calls and even record them (who does that though?)
Then there's the disadvantages:
- having to use your phone network for Internet access instead of allowing for Wifi as well (seriously, here you pay per download volume so why can't I just let it use wifi? Even my PSP lets me do that!). This is probably an option on some phones but too many don't allow wifi.
- risking a very expensive phone in every day use + the dangers of dropping it when rushing to answer a call. Having a mobile device would mean you'd treat it with care. A mobile phone just makes this a lot harder to do since you often need to answer a call in a hurry or someone bumps into you while you're taking a call (you're a lot less likely to be walking around while using a mobile computer).
- having a phone that is too complex (or rather, impractical) for its own good and a mobile computer that is too limiting to be worth it. The iphone is too limiting on either field - as a phone it's crap, as a mobile computer, it's too weak and lacks many basic features.
- having to mess with updates and other crap that may brick your phone or just jeopardize your basic phone functions not to mention brake apps, introduce bugs, etc.
- needing to always take both everywhere, even where there's a risk of it getting stolen. A $30 phone getting stolen is not a big deal - you'd leave your mobile computer at home when going on trips where you don't need it but if it's your phone, you'll always need it and you'll always have the risk of it getting pick pocketed. This is a device which cost $300+ in your pockets at all times!
- the phone part rarely needs to be updated yet a mobile PC does so you end up paying extra for the phone part with each upgrade because the two are connected. Not only that, but you have the hassle of being tied to a certain operator in many countries if you need that particular phone because of the software.
- if the smart phone gets damaged (and they're a lot more prone to damage), you'd need to send it in for repairs, meaning you'd be without a phone. With a regular phone, you could just buy a new one + they're sturdier. If your mobile computer gets damage, at least you don't lose the ability to call.
Seriously, I'd want to keep the two separated. The benefits from only having one device and a few more advantages don't weigh up against the massive lists of disadvantages. Why not sell a phone with a professional camera inside then? It's just as bad an idea.

Navagon: Aussie ISPs like 14,000 times more expensive than anywhere else in the world?

Red_Avatar: - having to use your phone network for Internet access instead of allowing for Wifi as well (seriously, here you pay per download volume so why can't I just let it use wifi? Even my PSP lets me do that!). This is probably an option on some phones but too many don't allow wifi.

Red_Avatar: - risking a very expensive phone in every day use + the dangers of dropping it when rushing to answer a call. Having a mobile device would mean you'd treat it with care. A mobile phone just makes this a lot harder to do since you often need to answer a call in a hurry or someone bumps into you while you're taking a call (you're a lot less likely to be walking around while using a mobile computer).

Red_Avatar: - if the smart phone gets damaged (and they're a lot more prone to damage), you'd need to send it in for repairs, meaning you'd be without a phone. With a regular phone, you could just buy a new one + they're sturdier. If your mobile computer gets damage, at least you don't lose the ability to call.

Red_Avatar: Seriously, I'd want to keep the two separated.

Aliasalpha: Yup but for 60 bucks a month I was still getting the equivelent of the plan they started charging 80 for with a lower limit

Navagon: And what speed is that? Is it unlimited?

TheCheese33: I understand that some don't like the idea of completing tasks and browsing the internet on phones, but I love it. I have a terrible short-term memory, so if I'm suddenly interested in looking something up, chances are I'll forget about it before I get home. Loading up Shazam to find the name of a song, or brining up IMDB to look up that actor in that movie, or browsing my Twitter feed for insightful comments are extremely easy to do with a capable phone. My phone has even saved my ass in the classroom a couple of times. When I couldn't find any copies of a particular book on the day we're suppossed to read it, I found it for cheap off Barnes and Noble or Amazon's eBook programs and continued.
Normally, I would lament the loss of my phone's ability to consume information, but I've always had a grudge against Apple, so the sooner I can toss my old phone and go in for a Verizon Android phone, the better. A friend of mine recently acquired the Droid X, and it is beautiful. The screen is gigantic, the camera is high-quality, and it loads up sites faster than anything I've ever seen before. Also, everyone tells me how the Android Marketplace is so much better than the App Store on iPhones.

Aliasalpha: Well that's not completely terrible. Close though, given that you could get an unlimited connection here for half that.

orcishgamer: If you're stuck on the Verizon idea, go for the Eris. I forget who carries the Incredible on their network, but that phone lives up to its name.