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Barefoot_Monkey: GOG changed from using www.gog.com for HTTPS to using secure.gog.com, and Firefox is keeping you from visiting HTTP pages if a corresponding HTTPS address exists in your history or bookmarks. As you can see by reading this thread there are good reasons for Firefox doing this.

But how do you actually fix the problem that you're experiencing?

- Open up your history sidebar (Ctrl+H)
- In the "Search" bar on the history sidebar, type [url=https://www.gog.comhttps://www.gog.com[/url]
- Press the Tab key twice then Ctrl+A to select every matching item in your history
- Press the Delete key. That should remove all of those old https://www.gog.com links from your history

After doing that Firefox should have no reason to redirect you anymore. Try it out and see if it works for you.
Or install the HTTPS Everywhere extension for Firefox or Chrome, apply my ruleset in the correct place, and that'll make sure your GOG visit stays in HTTPS land.
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Miaghstir: Or install the HTTPS Everywhere extension for Firefox or Chrome, apply my ruleset in the correct place, and that'll make sure your GOG visit stays in HTTPS land.
Nice one.
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Miaghstir: Or install the HTTPS Everywhere extension for Firefox or Chrome, apply my ruleset in the correct place, and that'll make sure your GOG visit stays in HTTPS land.
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Barefoot_Monkey: Nice one.
(Note: Complete instructions not included. Query for clarification if both "interested" and "confused" are true.)
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Miaghstir: (Note: Complete instructions not included. Query for clarification if both "interested" and "confused" are true.)
Interested, not confused. Query for clarification unnecessary. Terse writing style currently enjoyable to use.
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Barefoot_Monkey: GOG changed from using www.gog.com for HTTPS to using secure.gog.com, and Firefox is keeping you from visiting HTTP pages if a corresponding HTTPS address exists in your history or bookmarks. As you can see by reading this thread there are good reasons for Firefox doing this.

But how do you actually fix the problem that you're experiencing?

- Open up your history sidebar (Ctrl+H)
- In the "Search" bar on the history sidebar, type [url=https://www.gog.comhttps://www.gog.com[/url]
- Press the Tab key twice then Ctrl+A to select every matching item in your history
- Press the Delete key. That should remove all of those old https://www.gog.com links from your history

After doing that Firefox should have no reason to redirect you anymore. Try it out and see if it works for you.
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Miaghstir: Or install the HTTPS Everywhere extension for Firefox or Chrome, apply my ruleset in the correct place, and that'll make sure your GOG visit stays in HTTPS land.
Thanks your ruleset works fine. Did you submit it to HTTPSEverywhere?
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hedwards: I disagree with that strongly. This is a case of Fx being responsible and GOG being poorly coded. You just have to visit https://secure.gog.com first in order to connect. Afterwards they reconnect you back to www.gog.com.
I guess the disagreement is with the short version I posted. The short version isn't meant as an explanation, it's meant as a "Tell me what to do to get it working, without using more than 2 clicks" kind of thing.
The long version does give the proper explanation, and what you need to do (without me using FF, thus I couldn't be as detailed as Barefoot_Monkey was, nor suggest the HTTPSEverywhere script Miaghstir posted).
I would have given the same (short) answer for any browser having trouble displaying a particular website, like IE9 with barrel roll or tilt search on google.
While I do personally dislike Firefox for various reasons, I don't dish something due to its tightened security.
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kaileeena: Thanks your ruleset works fine. Did you submit it to HTTPSEverywhere?
I haven't. I saw the possibility on the website, but was too tired to bother last night.

EDIT: And, apparently, if https://www.gog.com. is in Firefox' history, it'll go to that address and not get redirected (only http:// gets redirected currently). I'll change that before any submission takes place.

EDIT2: Here you go. In addition to redirecting http to https, the new ruleset also redirects the wrong https to the right one.
Post edited September 12, 2012 by Miaghstir
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hedwards: I disagree with that strongly. This is a case of Fx being responsible and GOG being poorly coded. You just have to visit https://secure.gog.com first in order to connect. Afterwards they reconnect you back to www.gog.com.
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JMich: I guess the disagreement is with the short version I posted. The short version isn't meant as an explanation, it's meant as a "Tell me what to do to get it working, without using more than 2 clicks" kind of thing.
The long version does give the proper explanation, and what you need to do (without me using FF, thus I couldn't be as detailed as Barefoot_Monkey was, nor suggest the HTTPSEverywhere script Miaghstir posted).
I would have given the same (short) answer for any browser having trouble displaying a particular website, like IE9 with barrel roll or tilt search on google.
While I do personally dislike Firefox for various reasons, I don't dish something due to its tightened security.
Mostly. Firefox used to be better and the people running it seem to be hell bent on destroying what they created. At this point it's hard for me to defend a lot of the stupid stunts they're pulling like the that awful ribbon like interface they're trying to push.

But at this time, I have yet to find a browser that has the kind of 3rd party support that Fx does. None of the other browsers have a proper equivalent to noscript, useragent or ghostery at this time.

But I am looking over at Palemoon where the developer seems to actually understand that people who use Firefox don't want what Google or MS is pushing.
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kaileeena: Thanks your ruleset works fine. Did you submit it to HTTPSEverywhere?
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Miaghstir: I haven't. I saw the possibility on the website, but was too tired to bother last night.

EDIT: And, apparently, if https://www. is in Firefox' history, it'll go to that address and not get redirected (only http:// gets redirected currently). I'll change that before any submission takes place.

EDIT2: Here you go. In addition to redirecting http to https, the new ruleset also redirects the wrong https to the right one.
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I accidentally visited www some years back and had some real issues getting the damage fixed. I'm not sure what the problem was, but it screwed up my ability to visit other URLs. But that was probably 10 years ago.
Post edited September 12, 2012 by hedwards
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hedwards: I accidentally visited www some years back and had some real issues getting the damage fixed. I'm not sure what the problem was, but it screwed up my ability to visit other URLs. But that was probably 10 years ago.
Meh, I was being lazy and using secure. and www. as shorthand rather than typing out the whole domain. Changed that post now for slightly less confusion.
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hedwards: Mostly. Firefox used to be better and the people running it seem to be hell bent on destroying what they created. At this point it's hard for me to defend a lot of the stupid stunts they're pulling like the that awful ribbon like interface they're trying to push.
It's getting ridiculous how often firefox updates the browser. Add ons incompatible, crashes, web sites not loading in the right way.

I use firefox because of it's layout, but i am starting to wonder whether other web browsers may offer better stability?
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hedwards: Mostly. Firefox used to be better and the people running it seem to be hell bent on destroying what they created. At this point it's hard for me to defend a lot of the stupid stunts they're pulling like the that awful ribbon like interface they're trying to push.
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gameon: It's getting ridiculous how often firefox updates the browser. Add ons incompatible, crashes, web sites not loading in the right way.

I use firefox because of it's layout, but i am starting to wonder whether other web browsers may offer better stability?
That's been my experience lately. I've used the browser since it was in Alpha. And they seem more concerned with aping what Google is doing and trying to get the Chrome users on board than they are with putting out a solid product.

The software definitely isn't as stable as it used to be. It's not Fx's fault as it's usually a site script, but they haven't shown any particular interest in making it so that one script doesn't lock up the entire browser.

Palemoon appears to have some promise as it's a fork of Fx from I think 12.0 with some updates. But I'm not sure how safe it is and how up to date the patching is.

EDIT: Here it is, looks like it's been updated to 15.0
http://www.palemoon.org/
Post edited September 12, 2012 by hedwards
I ended up going with the "search for gog.com, delete everything." and adding "type gog.com in address bar, push arrow down, press delete, rinse repeat til everything's gone"
This seems to have solved the issue for me without having to resort to yet another extension and custom ruleset installation.

As for why I use firefox. A few reasons. I agree wholeheartedly that it's gone downhill. But there are things which I stick around for:
1. In address bar search (keyword search). instead of having to use a separate search area I just plok in a keyword and type the search in the address bar. Thus g for google, b for bing, wiki for wikipedia, imdb for imdb etc. Opera can do this too.
2. Profile is good for roaming. At work I use firefox, have my profile setup on my homedrive. And from whatever machine I decide to run firefox I'll have my profile run directly from the network share rather than having to be at the mercy of roaming profiles. I have no clue if other browsers support this, it might.
3. Extensions. there are a few I use but they're quite useful. Firebug (similar functionality is now in Opera and IE), HTML Validator, Colorpicker and NoScript. The same stuff might be available for other browsers, but hey I'm lazy. And again, as per reason 2. The things follow me wherever I go.
4. History in address field. If I want to find something I visited a long time ago. Can't remember where but remember part of the title, I can quite often just type part of the title and it'll show up quickly in the suggested completions. Closest I've found is Chrome, but that's Google results which I may or may not have seen, if I haven't seen it, it's likely not what I was looking for.
and 5. Search as you type and link activation. Many sites still feature text links (amazing isn't it?) if I want to find a link, I just start typing what it is I'm looking for and it'll pop down to find it. Hit F3 to go to the next hit or enter to activate the link. IE I need to hit ctrl-B (danish windows, they needed F for Fat text (bold) and thus swapped it in Windows, IE, Office, etc). Opera has something similar with the , key being the default, but if you're not happy with the first link I've found no reliable good way to activate the one you want without the mouse.

But thank you to both Barefoot and Miaghstir for the solutions. I haven't marked any as solution as ideally I'd like to mark both, but don't know if I can do so, and I'm in two minds as to which one would be the best most proper one to go with.
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wpegg: I would like to re-iterate - This is something that it is extremely unlikely anyone would ever do. To do so they would have to physically compromise your internet connection, and then intercept your GOG session (the key), then manufacture requests to abuse it.
And physically compromising your internet connection could be anything from a co-worker listening on your work Lan, anybody listening to an unencrypted wi-fi signal, or somebody listening at an internet pipe / router / whatever.
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DrakeFox: I ended up going with the "search for gog.com, delete everything." and adding "type gog.com in address bar, push arrow down, press delete, rinse repeat til everything's gone"
This seems to have solved the issue for me without having to resort to yet another extension and custom ruleset installation.

As for why I use firefox. A few reasons. I agree wholeheartedly that it's gone downhill. But there are things which I stick around for:
1. In address bar search (keyword search). instead of having to use a separate search area I just plok in a keyword and type the search in the address bar. Thus g for google, b for bing, wiki for wikipedia, imdb for imdb etc. Opera can do this too.
I like that too. But the browser has been getting less and less stable in the last few years. It has some good features, but it locks up regularly on high latency connections. What's more the database that they use for that feature doesn't seem to be able to cope with a decade worth of links.

And what's more, I have a feeling that the awesome bar itself is causing a lot of the performance trouble as it seems to get noticeably worse when the history gets large.

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DrakeFox: 2. Profile is good for roaming. At work I use firefox, have my profile setup on my homedrive. And from whatever machine I decide to run firefox I'll have my profile run directly from the network share rather than having to be at the mercy of roaming profiles. I have no clue if other browsers support this, it might.
EDIT: That's just following MS' recommendations. If a browser doesn't do that by default, it's trivial to set it up to do so.

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DrakeFox: 3. Extensions. there are a few I use but they're quite useful. Firebug (similar functionality is now in Opera and IE), HTML Validator, Colorpicker and NoScript. The same stuff might be available for other browsers, but hey I'm lazy. And again, as per reason 2. The things follow me wherever I go.
Firefox has had extensions for a decade. I don't know how a feature this old could possibly be evidence that Fx isn't going downhill. Palemoon offers pretty much exactly the same set of extensions without the sucktastic performance.

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DrakeFox: 4. History in address field. If I want to find something I visited a long time ago. Can't remember where but remember part of the title, I can quite often just type part of the title and it'll show up quickly in the suggested completions. Closest I've found is Chrome, but that's Google results which I may or may not have seen, if I haven't seen it, it's likely not what I was looking for.
You're joking, right? This feature is really, really old. The only thing new about it is that it includes a database. At this stage even MS has that.

I used to like Fx, but at this point, there's really no point in denying that it isn't what it used to be. I mainly stuck with it because it was the least sucky of the browsers, but at the rate they're going, I gave up and switched to Palemoon.
Post edited September 12, 2012 by hedwards
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kalirion: And physically compromising your internet connection could be anything from a co-worker listening on your work Lan, anybody listening to an unencrypted wi-fi signal, or somebody listening at an internet pipe / router / whatever.
Yes, that's correct. It could also be a virus just listening to your network traffic. I can't tell if you're agreeing it's not an issue, or implying it is. I'm assuming the latter, my apologies if wrong. Anyway even if step one is achieved (listening to traffic), there's still the issue that they'd have to identify GOG traffic, extract the key from the request, and then form their own requests in order to achieve their own nefarious purposes, which I assume is to download a game already available on the pirate sites, or to post something nasty on the forums.

All in all, there are bigger targets for the nasty people right now. If GOG went into some kind of prepaid system, or GOGWallet, storing payment info etc. It would be something I'd then raise with them. As it stands the impact is low, and the threat probability is very minimal.