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Vainamoinen: It that's your calling, go ahead and buy games on Early Access. It's your decision. It's the same decision you make when participating in an 'open beta'... with the smallish difference that you pay full price for an Early Access game. And THAT I consider indecent.
Worse is if you have to pay 2x the game's price for Early Access like with Galactic Civilizations III
I'd never buy an unfinished game. That's like getting an "early access" movie where you see actors in front of green screens, no music, no special effects, just something barebones, with the script still unfinished.

I want my gaming to be a complete experience. I'll even suffer bugs provided the developers have implemented everything they wanted in the finished version.
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Vainamoinen: ... following yesterday's article on Eurogamer.net.
What article is that?

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blotunga: It's GOG choice, but I for myself am against paid early access. Why should I pay to beta-test a game? Don't they have people paid to do that?
The way I see it you're not really. You're paying for the game.

I think of it like a preorder except I get to mess about with pre-release builds as well.
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blotunga: Worse is if you have to pay 2x the game's price for Early Access like with Galactic Civilizations III
That's quite the exception though since that includes all future DLC and expansions. There have been worse offenders I think, though those generally tended to have high prices because those were the kickstarter tiers they promised early access to.
Post edited May 20, 2014 by Pheace
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Pheace: That's quite the exception though since that includes all future DLC and expansions. There have been worse offenders I think, though those generally tended to have high prices because those were the kickstarter tiers they promised early access to.
I actually agree with some of those higher prices: they want the game sold on release, but they make the game available earlier for very dedicated people who want to actually contribute to the game via bug reporting and such. They don't want the public at large buying their game yet (as is the goal on most early access), they want only a few comitted individuals to help them out. If you're not comitted enough, just buy the game when it actually releases. It isn't that hard.

Not that I like early access games, but one thing is one thing and the other thing is another thing. And there was one last thing but it ran away through the window.
I've no issue with GOG having an early access style system, but if they are going to have it then the games MUST have an easier mechanism for updating. Be it a GOG Early Access client of some type or the game itself has an update mechanism.
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Vainamoinen: ... following yesterday's article on Eurogamer.net.
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Cormoran: What article is that?
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-05-15-gog-on-early-access-definitely-not-every-game-should-be-permitted
Didn't most people vote in favour of Early Access games in the survey we had or was that something else?
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SpaceManThe: Didn't most people vote in favour of Early Access games in the survey we had or was that something else?
Yes, they did.
I personally don't want to play any early access games, but if it doesn't cause any losses for GOG, and you guys want it - go for it.
The only problem with early access games is many are abandoned.
Some early access games are going over 1 year on steam, and many have been abandoned.
(hell some have zero video options, zero controller options, zero keyboard layout options)

I'm ok if you can play a finished game early via a pre-order bonus, but other then that I don't like early access to unfinished games cause devs run away.
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blotunga: It's GOG choice, but I for myself am against paid early access. Why should I pay to beta-test a game? Don't they have people paid to do that?
Then don't. I also don't understand this argument. If you don't want to pay to be a beta tester, then don't pay to be a beta tester. It's that simple. But from the dev standpoint, even if they do have paid beta testers, the more people and computer configurations that test the game before official launch, the more bugs can be found and fixed.

I'm no fan of Early Access either, and am never tempted to opt in. For one thing, I don't want to know what's going to happen in the game before I play the actual finished version. But I'm glad others are willing to beta/alpha test it. If it means even fewer bugs and issues at official launch, then great. As long as GOG finds a method to ensure people aren't going to be ripped off by a company not delivering a finished product, then I see no issue with Early Access being offered here as well.
I do think early access is kind of iffy most of the time, and I think it hurts developers too because they lose launch hype and their reputation is based entirely on their first alpha release.

That said I don't see an issue with it existing. No one makes you support it.
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gbaz69: The only problem with early access games is many are abandoned.
Some early access games are going over 1 year on steam, and many have been abandoned.
(hell some have zero video options, zero controller options, zero keyboard layout options)

I'm ok if you can play a finished game early via a pre-order bonus, but other then that I don't like early access to unfinished games cause devs run away.
Which ones have been abandoned?

Note that what you mentioned doesn't make a game 'abandoned', not having good options is just that, not having good options.
Don't see the problem with Early Access as long as it is clearly marked as such.
I am enjoying my Early Access with Wasteland 2 and Divinity:OS, and I don't feel cheated one bit, but I am the type that loves finding typos and bugs in games (as long as they are not major game-breaking bugs).

If you don't like Early Access games, just wait for the release, but I like the early access games and would prefer to play them here at GOG than on Steam.

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tarasis: I've no issue with GOG having an early access style system, but if they are going to have it then the games MUST have an easier mechanism for updating. Be it a GOG Early Access client of some type or the game itself has an update mechanism.
I agree with that. I would prefer it being just for Early Access as I don't want a client for my released games.
Post edited May 20, 2014 by VABlitz