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You have to give GOG credit (or EA) that many of "exclusives", especially from the EA are sold for 6$.

Now why would I care for a game I can get DRM free pretty much anywhere else. GOGs biggest draw aren't even the DRM free releases of games being available elsewhere, but those games that are only available here. As long as they keep those within the 10$ pricing range, I'm all good.
Post edited May 02, 2012 by SimonG
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spinefarm: The Tycoon... for Splinter Cell you know the drill... Ubisoft US price
http://www.steamprices.com/us/app/13560/tom-clancys-splinter-cell

A lot of Ubisoft titles for Steam EU are cheaper than US.....
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Pheace: Ah, my mistake. And I hadn't noticed that about Ubisoft yet but I'll keep an eye on that, that's interesting :)

Tycoon price is higher in both EU and US, at a pretty insane price. Heck, I'm surprised RCT is even available in the EU on Steam as I know the last time I looked at it it was still region restricted to the US.

Either way the price is far too high in my opinion. Perhaps GOG's introduction will push the price on the other retailers down to about the same. (still too high, but oh well).

Sale prices for RCT3 put it at $/€10 though, which is about the same you can expect from a GOG sale probably.
I can understant 15$ tops... but yet I will not spit at GOG cause they sell cheaper than Steam :)

Ubisoft titles cheaper in EU:
www.steamprices.com/us/app/13500/prince-of-persia-warrior-within
http://www.steamprices.com/us/app/19980/prince-of-persia
http://www.steamprices.com/us/app/15100/assassins-creed-directors-cut-edition
http://www.steamprices.com/us/app/15210/silent-hunter-iii
www.steamprices.com/us/app/33420/call-of-juarez-the-cartel
http://www.steamprices.com/us/app/19830/tom-clancys-rainbow-six-3-gold
http://www.steamprices.com/us/app/15000/tom-clancys-rainbow-six-lockdown
http://www.steamprices.com/us/app/13640/tom-clancys-ghost-recon-advanced-warfighter
http://www.steamprices.com/us/app/19800/brothers-in-arms-earned-in-blood
http://www.steamprices.com/us/app/15190/brothers-in-arms-road-to-hill-30

and maybe I missed some but yet a lot of games from Ubisoft catalogue are cheaper in EU
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SimonG: You have to give GOG credit (or EA) that many of "exclusives", especially from the EA are sold for 6$.

Now why would I care for a game I can get DRM free pretty much anywhere else. GOGs biggest draw aren't even the DRM free releases of games being available elsewhere, but those games that are only available here. As long as they keep those within the 10$ pricing range, I'm all good.
THIS.

those GOGs that are available everywhere else can usually be found way cheaper on disc, like the Thief Collection for the price of a single Thief game on GOG, or the Hitman Collection, or even individual games like Rollercoaster Tycoon 3.

i come to GOG for the exclusives that you can't get anywhere else, and that haven't been on sale for a decade or more, like the Ultima games, or Crusader and Wing Commander.
Post edited May 02, 2012 by Fred_DM
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spinefarm: http://www.steamprices.com/us/app/19800/brothers-in-arms-earned-in-blood
http://www.steamprices.com/us/app/15190/brothers-in-arms-road-to-hill-30

and maybe I missed some but yet a lot of games from Ubisoft catalogue are cheaper in EU
Wow, that's confusing. I was still regretting missing the Brothers in Arms pack back during the last Summer sale, but with these prices the pack costs the same as the individual games for the EU. (5+5+15 = 25 for the games combined, or 25 for the pack). The pack is 20 dollars for the US though, which is why I assumed the games would be cheaper too...
Post edited May 02, 2012 by Pheace
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SimonG: You have to give GOG credit (or EA) that many of "exclusives", especially from the EA are sold for 6$.
I think that's more to minimize the backlash from lack of extras and expansions more than anything.


People taking issue with those who dislike the price either have too much money to waste or just can't see the long term damage this kind of behaviour will do. I've said from the outset that this shit should have been kept separate and this is one of the big reasons... where do old games end and new games begin? All GoG has done is opened up an opportunity for publishers to continue screwing us over.
I can just about forgive indie (but I won't bother buying any.) but this retail stuff is daft because as many others have said; they're easy enough to find elsewhere and they're easy enough to find a hell of a lot cheaper.

GOG should have made a new site for the newer/indie stuff. The only reason they used gog.com is to use the name and past reputation, but the thing is they're now actively tarnishing their reputation and the name doesn't mean a thing anymore.
Post edited May 02, 2012 by serpantino
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serpantino: I think that's more to minimize the backlash from lack of extras and expansions more than anything.
Like

http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/wing_commander_3_heart_of_the_tiger

http://www.gog.com/gamecard/ultima_8_gold_edition

http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/crusader_no_remorse

http://www.gog.com/gamecard/dungeon_keeper

?

Honestly, lack of extras is nothing I associate with EA or 6$ games in particular.

EA is selling those games because they probably understand the business better, knowing that selling two 6$ games is better than selling on 10$ game.
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serpantino: snip
If you want to be one of the big dogs you need to act like one ;) As far as I am considered... 2 games so far this week + another 1-2 tomorrow + weekend promo :) As long they are bringing good old franchises I'm happy. And yes this way they completed the RTC franchise here.
I'm happy to imagine a future where games are viewed as remaining valuable over time, and where this affects the creators of games self vision of needing to create something that retains interest for a good payoff, rather than a quick flash in the pan.
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SimonG: Honestly, lack of extras is nothing I associate with EA or 6$ games in particular.

EA is selling those games because they probably understand the business better, knowing that selling two 6$ games is better than selling on 10$ game.
Some of those ok, but Dungeon Keeper doesn't have the expansion, it's also the DOS version which is lower res (I love DK but haven't bought it on GoG because of this.) Some of the other Wing Commanders are also missing expansions but the extras are good. As for the pricing structure being smart on EA's part, I don't know whether to believe that or not. EA aren't exactly known for their business sense or being in touch with their gaming market but I do agree with you that if it is intentional then it's a good idea as $5.99 is the impulse buy sweet spot for many on wanted games.
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serpantino: snip
I just wanted to point out that 6$ isn't a "smoke screen price" or anything.

The EA games are somewhat the biggest paradox on the site. Even without the expansions GOG could sell many of them for 10$ (like WC 3 + 4, or U VII), because they are highly sought after and nowhere available. While games like MoO 3 are going for 10$, which is to much to invest in a game with such a bad rap, but somebody might buy for $6, just to see what it is about. Or Machinarium, everybody and his grandmother probably owns it already and the few that don't own it because they are not interested in it. Selling it for 6$ would make most certainly more money than the 10$ price.

With AC,HoMM and RC 3 it's even worse.
Post edited May 02, 2012 by SimonG
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SimonG: Now why would I care for a game I can get DRM free pretty much anywhere else.
Isn't that a moot point for you personally anyway, as you don't care about DRM(-free)?

Anyway, whenever people proclaim "the game is already DRM-free everywhere", apparently they are talking about any of the following:

- Retail bargain bins, which may still have copy-protection schemes (even the infamous Starforce), even if they lack "online DRM". Retail versions for older tailing games are sold only as long as stocks last.

- Amazon, which is usually US-only (e.g. their earlier DRM-free sales), unless you take the risk of lying about your location to them.

- GamersGate, which is not DRM-free, but at least for now has inept DRM that can be skipped with a workaround.

- In the case of indie games, either buying the games from time-limited Humble Bundles, or dozen separate developer sites directly.

So if those are the only options, then at least I care whether the same games appear also on e.g. GOG.
Post edited May 02, 2012 by timppu
Why do people say now that there is a $15 and a $20 price point, a game would have been cheaper if GOG never made this change and kept the $5 and $10 only? Its all speculation, maybe the games would not be available on GOG at all. I would rather have these games here then not at all.
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SpryDragon: ...
That's why I say it,s too successful.
But if they become too expensive the success will vanish quickly. And we should look at cost-effectiveness. Some of the newly released games are quite new and good. They might legimitate a higher price. Some games like assasins creed or others I wouldn't pay more than 10$. For me they feel overpriced here.

In general, GOG still has relatively cheap prices, but not for all games. So I advise to compare prices before buying. And buy only during promos! They are so frequent. I might save all my money for christmas this year.

In principle more customers for GOG should mean less fixed costs per customer and potentially lower prices. Higher prices could be a sign of not enough competition or greed of the publishers?
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SimonG: Now why would I care for a game I can get DRM free pretty much anywhere else.
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timppu: Isn't that a moot point for you personally anyway, as you don't care about DRM(-free)?
Indeed, it is a moot point for me, but I was talking about the general preferences of your "average GOGer".

And I wasn't only speaking for RC 3, but for newerish games with a higher price point in general (I've only read on the release thread that RC 3 was already DRM free available, so I assumed).
It's been successful for a long time now, the graph shown last year by TeT showed a nice, year on year growth for the company.

They basically proved at this point, to the industry no less, that DRM free is very much viable as a business model and there is a large market for old games. Onto new price points. As long as they release old games (circa 2002) drm free and with extras at $10 tops, then they have my business. As long as they sell newer games. drm free, for 10-20$ then they might have my business.

Adding SO much to the AC1 and HOMM release is a great way to justify to the naysayers and seal a purchase from me. I hope that GoG adds this much, or more to $20 releases. For the RC3 release, it's the cheapest, digitally, for me in the uk, so GoG has not compromised their philosophy nor treated me unfairly.

I don't care or want retail games since the space used by them always was a problem for me.
Post edited May 02, 2012 by mushy101