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Posted June 14, 2011
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Rodzaju: I’ve been doing some reading.
According to Wikipedia, the Knave of Hearts, as seen in the books, may be a Club in Disguise.
That's speculation based on the illustration of the trial by Sir John Tenniel, and not the writings of Lewis Carroll.


Aditionally, your speculation about the movie (and the video game tie-in) refers to the Tim Burton (who is known for adding darker / gothic overtones to his stories) version, and not the animated original ...
Posted June 14, 2011
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Rodzaju: I’ve been doing some reading.
According to Wikipedia, the Knave of Hearts, as seen in the books, may be a Club in Disguise.
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nmillar: That's speculation based on the illustration of the trial by Sir John Tenniel, and not the writings of Lewis Carroll.


Aditionally, your speculation about the movie (and the video game tie-in) refers to the Tim Burton (who is known for adding darker / gothic overtones to his stories) version, and not the animated original ...
I just wiki'd Knave of Hearts & that's what came up....
Posted June 14, 2011
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Rodzaju: I just wiki'd Knave of Hearts & that's what came up....
I know; I read the same article, but pointing things out in case you missed them.

Anyway, we have a White Knight, a Knave of Hearts, a Gryphon and a Walrus claimed.

I'm going to vote Vitek, since the Walrus isn't even a resident of Wonderland and only appears in a poem recited by Tweedledum and Tweedledee.

And, as Alice herself said, "Well! They were both very unpleasant characters—"
Posted June 14, 2011
Okay, I'm torn between Orryrro and Vitek at the moment.

Vitek because the Walrus without the Carpenter doesn't make much sense.

Orryrro because the Knave is a bit of an obscure character, and has me wondering why the Mad Hatter (or even Alice herself) weren't picked instead.

I think I'll unvote Vitek and vote nolynch so that Rodzaju can carry out the proper investigation tonight (and hopefully I'll get killed so somebody else can make the wrong decision).
Posted June 14, 2011
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nmillar: I know; I read the same article, but pointing things out in case you missed them.

Anyway, we have a White Knight, a Knave of Hearts, a Gryphon and a Walrus claimed.

I'm going to vote Vitek, since the Walrus isn't even a resident of Wonderland and only appears in a poem recited by Tweedledum and Tweedledee.

And, as Alice herself said, "Well! They were both very unpleasant characters—"
Do you think I am going to believe you are voting me for such pitiful reason at this stage?
I think not.
Still I am the only one not voting now and this game can be played by 4. :-P
Vote nmillar.
There is no reason he can't be mafia. Also he is much more quite than he was in the last days of other games.
Posted June 14, 2011
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Rodzaju: According to Wikipedia, the Knave of Hearts, as seen in the books, may be a Club in Disguise.
The clubs are soldiers of the Royal court.

In the movie, he is the Red Queen’s personal assassin.

In the videogame, he is a major villain (the second boss).

Does any of this sound like Vanilla?
Last I checked I was an acquitted tart-thief.

[i]The Queen of Hearts, she made some tarts,
All on a summer day:
The Knave of Hearts, he stole those tarts,
And took them quite away![/i]

The club thing is speculation based on an illustration by John Tennel that makes the hearts look sort of like clubs when the narrative doesn`t mention it at all. And apparently nmillar already mentioned all of this.
Posted June 14, 2011
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Rodzaju: According to Wikipedia, the Knave of Hearts, as seen in the books, may be a Club in Disguise.
The clubs are soldiers of the Royal court.

In the movie, he is the Red Queen’s personal assassin.

In the videogame, he is a major villain (the second boss).

Does any of this sound like Vanilla?
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Orryyrro: Last I checked I was an acquitted tart-thief.

[i]The Queen of Hearts, she made some tarts,
All on a summer day:
The Knave of Hearts, he stole those tarts,
And took them quite away![/i]

The club thing is speculation based on an illustration by John Tennel that makes the hearts look sort of like clubs when the narrative doesn`t mention it at all. And apparently nmillar already mentioned all of this.
Indeed He did.
The question is, did Baz base his roles on the wiki info, or the books?
Posted June 14, 2011
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Vitek: And again, how could you get failed investigation of Orryyrro and succesful from Quad?

@Orryyrro, That's all? Do you think that with such posting you are going to convince us you are town?

Question to all, do you have something in your PM's about someone dying?
Well, the forums ate half my last post but, no it's intended to be an honest role-claim.

And no, nobody dead in my pm.
Posted June 14, 2011
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Rodzaju: Indeed He did.
The question is, did Baz base his roles on the wiki info, or the books?
Well, does your role pm include any reason to believe it's from wiki info or from the books? Also, while we're playing the "doesn't fit the role" game, how does The Gryphon fit for role-cop? He's someone who is largely unconcerned with the affairs of others.
Posted June 14, 2011
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Rodzaju: Indeed He did.
The question is, did Baz base his roles on the wiki info, or the books?
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Orryyrro: Well, does your role pm include any reason to believe it's from wiki info or from the books? Also, while we're playing the "doesn't fit the role" game, how does The Gryphon fit for role-cop? He's someone who is largely unconcerned with the affairs of others.
Which may be why I only get vague 'open to interpretation' info, rather than solid black & white like a regular cop....
Posted June 14, 2011
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Rodzaju: Indeed He did.
The question is, did Baz base his roles on the wiki info, or the books?
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Orryyrro: Well, does your role pm include any reason to believe it's from wiki info or from the books? Also, while we're playing the "doesn't fit the role" game, how does The Gryphon fit for role-cop? He's someone who is largely unconcerned with the affairs of others.
I should also note that I'm NOT a ROLE cop, I'm a FLAVOR cop.
BIG difference.
Rolecop type character is what I suspect last mafia of being.
Posted June 14, 2011
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Orryyrro: Well, does your role pm include any reason to believe it's from wiki info or from the books? Also, while we're playing the "doesn't fit the role" game, how does The Gryphon fit for role-cop? He's someone who is largely unconcerned with the affairs of others.
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Rodzaju: I should also note that I'm NOT a ROLE cop, I'm a FLAVOR cop.
BIG difference.
Rolecop type character is what I suspect last mafia of being.
Yes, sorry, flavour-cop.
Posted June 15, 2011
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nmillar: Okay, I'm torn between Orryrro and Vitek at the moment.

Vitek because the Walrus without the Carpenter doesn't make much sense.
Why it's only me and Orryyrro for you? Why are you sure Rod is town?
Posted June 15, 2011
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Vitek: Why it's only me and Orryyrro for you? Why are you sure Rod is town?
The flavour text he received suggested he got an accurate result on both me and you ...
Posted June 15, 2011
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nmillar: The flavour text he received suggested he got an accurate result on both me and you ...
How does it make him confirmed town?
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