I wasn't asking him what he was doing, I was asking how it was supposed to help us. What purpose did it serve?

Also, I fully intend to vote for ViolatorX, I'd just prefer the day went on for longer first since discussion helps the town.

You've seen my suspect list & reasons.
I'd like to see yours.
Assuming your town, It might help me see things in a different light.

Of course, if your not, we're royally screwed ;)

How else you liked me to phrase I was free from my captor? I would offer a group hug and some tears if it was a party game I guess.

Me being controlled would not come under his role but an ability, the godfather could have any number of abilities upon doing a bit of reading it appears to be a twist on the mentor role where I was under his command presumably (to aid in his death) and not give the mafia a huge disadvantage as they have far less people. Instead of a mentor he was a my captor which is perfectly feesable.

If he wanted to kill me he could have just pm'd the mod to kill me, If I mentioned it in anyway kill, if I confirmed him as a suspect kill, I acted in the same manner do avoid my death

I didnt vote for him as I was out all day and he was lynched when I got home.

I was told to wait till somebody declared a color(white,red) and go for the opposite with their being knights kings and queens it seemed the logical choice by him.

@quad I dismissed your theory on how the mafia would FORGET to lodge a kill? It took typhoon to practically jump into the fire to get burnt for us to eliminate a mafia, they just appear to be sitting back and waiting for someone to hang themselves fexen,teleroth in days 1 and 2, then pick someone off something you have seemed to do the whole game.

With the back and forth arguement betwen you and orry in the early days and your apparent inside knowledge, Why are you also quick to dismiss any potential that rod could be scum as weve already had a town cop and make up that I ignored the town roleblocker, Im going on what has already been claimed not apparent knowledge you proclaim to have.

The fact you are hanging on his words just makes you look more suspect my the message almost like you are trying to protect him, personally im see him in the middle of my list of suspects but your belief of what he says is token is dragging him closer to the scum side.

@orry you said my post was very scummy, post 522 looks a lot worse, the one liners should be saved for duke nukem or cheesy action movies, anywhere else just looks suspect. Its hard to make a true read on you as you have only posted less than 50 lines of text the whole game.

I think orry and quad could be the last 2 mafia, their early days arguement seems to have them sailing through under the appearence that they are innocent as nobody has mentioned it since the teleroth lynch it has fallen off the radar.

I would have preferred it wasn't roleplaying.

How are my short posts that contain little information worse than your long posts that contain little information, by the way?

Also, your claim has went from "I had to say whatever he told me to" to "he could kill me on a whim". Which is it?

@ViolatorX:

Sorry, I started off with my response and got sidetracked into still not trusting you. The answer to your question on why Typhoon would do that is simply "I don't know what Typhoon's victory conditions were, given his odd role combination". My apologies for the misunderstanding, perhaps I should have used another paragraph.

@Rodzaju:

But of course:

Rodzaju: You've given what certainly seems to me to be conclusive proof to me that you're a Flavour Cop, so I'm not going to doubt that. It seems to be usually a Town-aligned role, though I suppose it's technically possible that it could be a Mafia version of it. Still, you've provided me with a good Town read so far, though personally I would have gone for attempting to verify ViolatorX's character claim last night. Also, you could well be right about the mafia kill choices.

NMillar: Another Town read - the argument between you and Rodzaju was somewhat odd to watch as it was what helped with my Town read for both of you. I couldn't see any reason at the time for him claiming the White Knight as not the character you were after when it was perfectly suitable unless it were true.

Vitek: Possibly a bit more shifty - I'm still not entirely sure about the statement about what you were up to on Day 1, and there is the slight problem of your stating outright beforehand that during the night you'll prove to someone you're innocent can no longer be determined either way. Still, you somehow still read of Town to me - perhaps for the moment it's just due to there being more suspicious targets, but you do seem to have been thinking things through, apart from the occasional odd impulsive vote.

Orryyrro: Still rather scummy, despite insinuations I have forgotten him - there have just been even scummier targets. He calls for more discussion in his most recent post, but does not want to join in discussion himself very much, posting only the bare minimum to stay in the game, it seems. If he is innocent, I would like to hear more from him.

ViolatorX: I believe I mentioned "even scummier targets" in my previous post, and this one takes the cake. I've already gone over a number of points, though I may have been misinterpreted by ViolatorX from his most recent post - if you'd like me to clarify further, do say so, as there are a few other points that seem to have been misinterpreted.

But he's coming out with more and more that make me suspicious of him, it seems - he's now claiming that the Godfather might have a variety of abilites, but the Godfather is one of the more well-documented roles in the game - there are a few variations mentioned in the wiki, but for all his statements to be true requires a vast amount of rewriting of the entire Godfather role to include this ability - using Jester as a modifier was unusual enough.

Also, as I've already shown in my previous post's logic, if Orryyrro and I were the remaining Mafia members, surely Orryyrro would have finished the lynch ages ago and we'd have gone in for the final nightkill required to win? It's not proof against either myself or Orryyrro being individually Mafia, admittedly, but it is sound against both.


...Sorry, I keep getting carried away with pointing out flaws in ViolatorX's reasoning. It just seems, well, a bit blatant to me, though I appreciate the notion of erring on the side of caution at this stage due to the probability of it being Mislynch or Lose. My main suspects are thus ViolatorX and Orryyrro, with the possibility of Vitek in place of Orryyrro.

Yes, this is basically proof that at least one of ViolatorX, Vitek and nmillar are mafia, as we didn't have two people jump on and kill him as soon as he was at L-2

Sigh Im confident one of you two is. In fact you could (seeing as some people seem to think could is a firm statement of belief)still be both..

You seem to say I have misjudged reading as opposed to exploring every possible avenue as its not always who you expect.
An "impossible" theory just for quad to prove my point (if you and orry were mafia)

Waiting would be a sensible option as you would still have to make a successful kill to even the town in size and win, (presuming its a 3v9 game) do you know who is what? you always appear overly confident, with orry being the most suspect bar me, if I was lynched when I flip town hes going to get blocked(if we have a rb) than who would you target do you know what protective roles may stop you?

Out of the 3 other people who would you target and why?

If you fail to make a kill it would be 3v2 (im going to guess theres no sk role as there hasnt been any other deaths bar robbes from teleroth) and you would have to get someone else lynched to win which is looking a lot more difficult especially if your partner WAS orry.

Your post of orryyro is looking suspect because he is reluctant to put the final vote further could be as you have time on your hands as pointed above.

Theres always reasons why people are talking and hiding things the fun part of the game is to work out what.

Theres 5 days left so you can get plenty of time to attempt to work out who has each role at l-1 you could just drop the vote when you feel you have enough infomation.

Im at L-1 you honesty think I trust any of you at this point? I dont really trust anyone in rl yet alone in a game where people are trying to kill you.


Some speculation behind Orrys waiting.

On the flip side If I am mafia who am I working with, It would also be sensible to attempt to try and work out the other person/people are with an NK that would leave the game with 4 people still the opportunity to lose if you get the situation wrong so technically we are no better off than we are now.

I dont trust orry but at least can respect that their is two sides to every coin in his decision process.

The wiki is a basic guideline there can be 100s of modifiers otherwise it would become stale and everyone would know what do expect and mafia wouldnt be worth playing,

And im speculating which is the whole point in the game completely different from claiming, I didnt KNOW his agenda I just said the words he fed to me overwise I would have been killed it makes sense clashing with the first direct claim, he looked like he turned it up when people nearly lynched nmillar and could have caused the game to end.

People that host games make up roles and abilities all the time, the pumpkin one pretty much sums up the extent of some peoples imagination.

In regards to your post its a common tactic to attack your partner to an extent then retract or hold back so he doesnt get lynched to look like you two arnet working together.

You have the whole night to chat and work out a plan, we just hope we are awake in the morning.

Do I think one of the mafia has voted for me out of the 3 definately, have both

@orryyro take the the last sentence of post 529 add or to the two things you have quoted and it sums it up, in regards to infomation ive told my actions in youve told us nothing in fact I dont think youve really mentioned anything over the last 3 days

andy was like that in #4 and he was the SK

Given typhoon asked me to jump on the first person that claimed a color role
I suspect nmillar is probably the most likely to be innocent. but his bandwagoning of fexen didnt help much and he could have picked his partner to potentially protect him.

Then rod - who talks like hes town but It would make little sense we had two cops poor theory maybe but doesnt that seem a little stacked.

Vitek - Rod puts a good arguement about the flavor regardless of faction, I did find his post about not hiding it anymore(regarding his role) than not claiming a little odd

Quad and orry from the post above, I think Its one of you two and vitek, maybe in my longshot theory it could be you two, but its definately 2 of the 3.

I still haven't heard a real claim from you. Or did I miss it?
What did Typhoon to you? He sent you the text you were to post? Or was it just a order to claim opposite against Red or White or something completely different? Was his order only for this one post?

I almost forgot, tonight I got proof that Rodzaju is mafia.
I dreamt about it. Really. It turned out he and Lady Gaga are tthe two remaining mafia. :-)

I know. :-)

That's always confused me.
Oh My God, You Suck!
But suck what?
I'm always rather partial to lemon Bon Bons......

I believe the implication is penises /stating the obvious

Looking at the various permutations, I think that there are 2 likely combinations:

1) Violator & Orry are scum.
This would explain why Orry has not yet voted.

2) Vitek & Nmillar are scum.
They are trying to lynch Violator & win the game.

If Violator & either Vitek or Nmillar were the scum, they would most likely have found a reason to withdraw their vote by now (my suggestion of Nolynch would have been a convenient reason) rather than lynch their companion.

If Orry & either Vitek or Nmillar were the bad guys, Orry would have jumped at a Violator vote.


I did think about investigating Violator.
But seeing as he had already claimed, I thought to try to get some info about those that hadn’t.
Tonight’s target will be either Orry or Violator (if he’s still alive).

Yes, I am aware that I have probably just set myself up to be blocked.
Perhaps someone more useful will not be.....

Well, it doesn't seem we're going to get much more out of this discussion.

So vote ViolatorX