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General discussion (archive)GOG Mafia #5 - Terror in Wonderland(816 posts)(816 posts)
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Posted June 07, 2011
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ViolatorX: Yuck I hate roleplaying, Whilst he was alive I had to say what he said via a pm from the mod or I would have been killed, He didnt issue me with anything on day 1 but told me to say what I said in night 2 Im guessing now to assist in his death.

Strange but this game isnt making sense, a jester godfather?
You claim to be town and Typhoon made you say your claim against nmillar?
So he was jester, godfather and had ability to force you to post what he wants? Sure, believable.

Or do you still claim to be sort of tracker after Twilight flipped one?

Vote VIlolatorX
Posted June 07, 2011
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ViolatorX: Yuck I hate roleplaying, Whilst he was alive I had to say what he said via a pm from the mod or I would have been killed, He didnt issue me with anything on day 1 but told me to say what I said in night 2 Im guessing now to assist in his death.

Strange but this game isnt making sense, a jester godfather?
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Vitek: You claim to be town and Typhoon made you say your claim against nmillar?
So he was jester, godfather and had ability to force you to post what he wants? Sure, believable.

Or do you still claim to be sort of tracker after Twilight flipped one?

Vote VIlolatorX
Im guessing It was was to assist him in his death as it would have been a huge disadvantage for the mafia to have its leader get themselves killed.

I have no ability he had me fake the whole thing. Im sure he got the info from one of the many cops seemingly floating around

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Vitek: As my last short pre-bed post I have to admit you are right, there is no use at me hidding this anymore. I don't know why I haven't been in my room N1 in Rod's investigation, maybe I ws taking a shower or using toilet but I certainly haven't used any ability N1.
So I am not sure what Rod result mean. But you also get some flavour, right? You could figure out something more out of it, don't you?

What does it mean you have 50% chance Violator? You have 50% chance to found who killed the person or 50% chance to get the right person?

It does look like nmillar's fate's is almost sealed but I'd also like to see something from Twilight. Soon it could be day over without single post from him/her.
Odd here my role seemed perfectly feesable to you, and why wernt you in your room night one you mentioned it but didnt actually say any reason why? does that mean you are vanilla and are confused or maybe you were busy trying to KILL someone I was in the toilet has to be the worst excuse ive ever heard afterall nobody was NK'ed by mafia night 1

Vote Vikek

Though Im more inclined to vote for orryyoo his voting did look a little bit suspect and seemed to lay low throughout yesterday
Posted June 07, 2011
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ViolatorX: He made us say made us say it, If I didnt he would have KILLED both of us....

We were being controlled by the march hare, he pointed and we had to obide

WE didnt know what to say HE TOLD me what to say or I'd die

WE dont know colors so he pointed it out for US!!!

But now WE free free hahahaha

Yuck I hate roleplaying, Whilst he was alive I had to say what he said via a pm from the mod or I would have been killed, He didnt issue me with anything on day 1 but told me to say what I said in night 2 Im guessing now to assist in his death.

Strange but this game isnt making sense, a jester godfather?
So, what`s this post all about if not to make you look suspicious?
Posted June 07, 2011
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ViolatorX: Odd here my role seemed perfectly feesable to you, and why wernt you in your room night one you mentioned it but didnt actually say any reason why? does that mean you are vanilla and are confused or maybe you were busy trying to KILL someone I was in the toilet has to be the worst excuse ive ever heard afterall nobody was NK'ed by mafia night 1
Back them it was much more feasible as I wasn't aware we have real tracker and also I wasn't aware Typhoon is making all his stuff up.

Game-wise I was in my room, that's what I've been saying. I did no action this particular night. So it was probably just flavour from bazilišek to Rodzaju.
How does the fact nobody ws killed makes me more supsicious? Muich more it would suggest I am doc or roleblocker or something. Is this what you are trying to find out?

P.S. Have you messed my name because I messed yours or was it just accident? :-)
Posted June 07, 2011
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Vitek: @Rod
Who was your invetigation target and what did you find?
My luck was not so good last night.
I investigated Twilight.

I could tell you what I found, but there doesn't seem much point now.

I'm curious as to the "Proof" you mentioned yesterday.
Posted June 07, 2011
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Vitek: @Rod
Who was your invetigation target and what did you find?
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Rodzaju: My luck was not so good last night.
I investigated Twilight.

I could tell you what I found, but there doesn't seem much point now.

I'm curious as to the "Proof" you mentioned yesterday.
Well, he said it was either nmillar or myself to whom it was going to be proven - I haven't seen anything myself, but NMillar seems to trust him.

I'd put in my vote against ViolatorX at the moment, as quite frankly even if ViolatorX was being controlled, Typhoon wanted to die I don't think he'd give an order to support his argument against nmillar. However, I feel it'd put him close enough for the Mafia to simply cut the day short if they so desired, and there still seems to be discussion going on.

Pardon me for throwing yet more theories into the whole Night 1 business, but do you suppose this "'forgot' to send in my night action" business Typhoon mentioned could be why we only had one death on Night 1? I don't think he mentioned a specific night it was on, and he doesn't appear to otherwise have a night action from his description.
Posted June 07, 2011
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QuadrAlien: Pardon me for throwing yet more theories into the whole Night 1 business, but do you suppose this "'forgot' to send in my night action" business Typhoon mentioned could be why we only had one death on Night 1? I don't think he mentioned a specific night it was on, and he doesn't appear to otherwise have a night action from his description.
To be honest, I think we have to take everything Typhoon said with a pinch of salt, but until & unless a roleblocker comes forth to claim responsibility, I do think it the most likely scenario.

I'm undecided on whether I would want the roleblocker to come forth.
On the one hand, it would give us a pretty clear lead on scum, but on the other, we have no evidence of any other protective role, so he would be signing his own death warrant.
If we hadn't just lost our tracker, I'd say go for it, but as we have...
Posted June 07, 2011
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QuadrAlien: Pardon me for throwing yet more theories into the whole Night 1 business, but do you suppose this "'forgot' to send in my night action" business Typhoon mentioned could be why we only had one death on Night 1? I don't think he mentioned a specific night it was on, and he doesn't appear to otherwise have a night action from his description.
That does make sense. Either that or the mafia was somehow blocked on Night 1, but we haven't had that kind of role come forward yet.

Anyway, it does seem that ViolatorX is the most guilty person here, and if there's a third (people tend to criticise me for assuming three mafia in every game even though that has always been the case), it's probably Orryrro. That's my reads at the moment anyway.

Vote ViolatorX.
Posted June 07, 2011
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ViolatorX: and why wernt you in your room night one you mentioned it but didnt actually say any reason why? does that mean you are vanilla and are confused or maybe you were busy trying to KILL someone I was in the toilet has to be the worst excuse ive ever heard afterall nobody was NK'ed by mafia night 1
This.

At the moment I have at least 3 mafia candidates.
I need to narrow down that list somewhat before I throw in a vote.
This is why I am interested in your "proof".
Posted June 07, 2011
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Vitek: Oh, if you by any chance flip town and we lose I am going to haunt you, Typhoon. ;-)

If someone is up, you can pick someone to whom I can prove I am town in night. Otherwise I will prove it to... nmillar or QuadrAlien, ok?
I guess this is what Rodzaju is alluding to? I didn't get any visits during the night, but perhaps QuadrAlien did?
Posted June 07, 2011
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nmillar: I guess this is what Rodzaju is alluding to? I didn't get any visits during the night, but perhaps QuadrAlien did?
In post 501, Quad denied it....
Posted June 07, 2011
There indeed is a roleblocker. Though I suppose it's mafia one. Because what is best course of action when someone declares using his ability which confirms him as townie at night? Roleblock him. So I have proven nothing. And now it can look like I made it up.

I'd like to see true claim from Violator when now he is saying he was made to make last one.

I'd either go with VIolator or had town roleblocker come out (if there is one) and tell us who did he blocked. It would tell us people not performing kills at night 2 and 3 and maybe player performing kill night 1.
Posted June 07, 2011
Well, there's not much point focusing on Vitek at the moment, since ViolatorX is clearly mafia. His claim that Typhoon45 "forced him to do it" would make sense if it was just a simple pointing the finger at me and calling me the Red Knight, but that whole thing with Tweedle Dum and Tweedle Dee was far too elaborate.

It seems more likely that ViolatorX, not realising that Typhoon45 was a jester, jumped on the same accusatory bandwagon as his scum buddy knowing that we were at LYLO yesterday and just needing a mis-lynch to win the game. With Typhoon45 having self destructed, ViolatorX is now desperately trying to cover his tracks.

Also, the flavour text for TwilightBard's death mentions a screwdriver. The only character I know that uses a screwdriver in Wonderland is the handyman, who hangs around with the walrus ...

If ViolatorX turns out to be the handyman, then Vitek could be the last mafia member. If not, then we're still looking for a handyman.
Posted June 07, 2011
Vitek, you are concerning me more & more.

You claim to have a night activity, but you DIDN’T use it night 1, despite the fact that I saw you not in your room.

I’ve been searching the wiki for a role that would do as you suggest, prove you towniness.
The best fit I’ve found is the Friendly Neighbour:
http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Friendly_Neighbor

However, this does not fit with the character of Walrus, which I guessed & you confirmed.
The Walrus pretends to befriend the Oysters, only to lead them to their doom.

As far as I am able to ascertain, this is the only significant mention of the Walrus in Wonderland.

So we have a predatory role.
A role who is very friendly with a screwdriver owning Carpenter.
We have you not acting on night 1, despite having a night action & not being in your room.
A promise of action that would prove your intentions, conveniently blocked.

As previously mentioned (380), I think it is very possible you were blocked night 1.
Is this why you did not perform your night action?
Conveniently, this is the night no-one died.
Posted June 07, 2011
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Rodzaju: Vitek, you are concerning me more & more.

You claim to have a night activity, but you DIDN’T use it night 1, despite the fact that I saw you not in your room.

I’ve been searching the wiki for a role that would do as you suggest, prove you towniness.
The best fit I’ve found is the Friendly Neighbour:
http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Friendly_Neighbor

However, this does not fit with the character of Walrus, which I guessed & you confirmed.
The Walrus pretends to befriend the Oysters, only to lead them to their doom.

As far as I am able to ascertain, this is the only significant mention of the Walrus in Wonderland.

So we have a predatory role.
A role who is very friendly with a screwdriver owning Carpenter.
We have you not acting on night 1, despite having a night action & not being in your room.
A promise of action that would prove your intentions, conveniently blocked.

As previously mentioned (380), I think it is very possible you were blocked night 1.
Is this why you did not perform your night action?
Conveniently, this is the night no-one died.
As I said, the block was clever way to make me suspicious.
Yes, I am Walrus, the Friendly Neighbor.
I had one-shot ability and I wanted it to use in later stage when it makes bigger impact to get someone on your side.
I somewhat try to not to admit it openly to get mafia doubt my true role.
I decided to use it this night as I saw it not necessary to postpone it any longer. Though it was wasted by being blocked.
Ironically I targeted you, Rodzaju.

@nmillar; By handyman you mean Carpenter? If so, we can stop looking for him as my role PM states he has been killed before.
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