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Typhoon45: Whats the point? Then the Mafia can just roleblock one of the people who said yes or no...
IF there is a mafia roleblocker, I'd imagine you would be high on the list.
You've already claimed cop.
Because of that, you're likely to be protected from NK.
The only other way the mafia can shut you up is to block you.
This would leave anyone else free to poke about.

I really want to believe you (after all, you see Nmillar as scummy as I do).
But you're not making that any easier.


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Post edited November 25, 2011 by Rodzaju
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Rodzaju: I really want to believe you (after all, you see Nmillar as scummy as I do).
Okay, here's something that may be of interest to you:

`Yes, it's a very good bee-hive,' the Knight said in a discontented tone, `one of the best kind. But not a single bee has come near it yet. And the other thing is a mouse-trap. I suppose the mice keep the bees out -- or the bees keep the mice out, I don't know which.'

You can read the full thing here: http://www.literature.org/authors/carroll-lewis/through-the-looking-glass/chapter-08.html
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QuadrAlien: And how, pray tell, would you know with such certainty that the Mafia have a roleblocker?
Because someone mentioned being roleblocked earlier (I can't remember who)
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TwilightBard: VOTE NOLYNCH

I'm not convinced of either side just yet but I have to admit Typhoon's zeal to end this so quickly is kinda scary. Remember folks, we Mislynch tonight and we lose, speeding to end this day is probably the worst thing we can do.
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Typhoon45: Come ON. How much more scummy behaviour do you need? Is it REALLY that hard to see that he's lying? Let's just lynch him and get the day over with!
Because coming out claiming Deputy with no pressure and saying you never got the investigation results isn't slightly scummy at this point where if we fuck up once we're toast?

Again, pushing this through too fast is a BAD idea, keeping my vote on no lynch, while not the best move I can make at this time, is fairly solid and jarring.

From my perspective, the events so far have struck me as rather...worrisome. Both sides have that scummy feel to them, the timing of your claim with Violator's is, troublesome a bit in my view. Yes there have also been scum tells here and there, and things I'd like to look at farther, but my view is simple.

If Rodzaju is lying then nmillar is most likely scum too. If Typhoon is lying then Violator is scum. The Mafia would most likely LOVE to take advantage of this, either by being one side of this argument or sitting in the middle.

And besides, why so worried? It's not like my vote is set in stone, I can change it at will if I see something that can convince me one way or the other.
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TwilightBard: Because coming out claiming Deputy with no pressure and saying you never got the investigation results isn't slightly scummy at this point where if we fuck up once we're toast?
Okay... This one is big.

I did get the results. I'm just not allowed to share them (incompetent, remember). I said I didn't to try and lull nMillar into a false sense of security before striking.
Are my posts invisible or something?

http://www.literature.org/authors/carroll-lewis/through-the-looking-glass/chapter-08.html

Note; Typhoon45 has chosen to ignore this already.
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TwilightBard: Because coming out claiming Deputy with no pressure and saying you never got the investigation results isn't slightly scummy at this point where if we fuck up once we're toast?
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Typhoon45: Okay... This one is big.

I did get the results. I'm just not allowed to share them (incompetent, remember). I said I didn't to try and lull nMillar into a false sense of security before striking.
Then I really hope you understand why I ask this: Why should I believe you? Lying for ANY reason is a huge scum tell. It throws anything you say into limbo now. ARGH!!!
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nmillar: Okay, here's something that may be of interest to you:

`Yes, it's a very good bee-hive,' the Knight said in a discontented tone, `one of the best kind. But not a single bee has come near it yet. And the other thing is a mouse-trap. I suppose the mice keep the bees out -- or the bees keep the mice out, I don't know which.'

You can read the full thing here: http://www.literature.org/authors/carroll-lewis/through-the-looking-glass/chapter-08.html
Heh, I already linked it but I probably made mistake with hiding it under one word. :-) I wonder whether everyone missed it or decided to ignore it.

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Typhoon45: Okay... This one is big.

I did get the results. I'm just not allowed to share them (incompetent, remember). I said I didn't to try and lull nMillar into a false sense of security before striking.
It wasn't you who brought incompetent part up. It was Rod!!

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TwilightBard: If Rodzaju is lying then nmillar is most likely scum too. If Typhoon is lying then Violator is scum. The Mafia would most likely LOVE to take advantage of this, either by being one side of this argument or sitting in the middle.
I don't believe Rodzaju is lying about his ability and his results. He got my character right so results on nmillar should be right too. Though he could be lying about his affinity. He could easily be mafia flavour cop. This would quite confirm nmillar as White Knight not to be for his "no post". Point in his favour is I didn't the stuff about White Knight either. I didn't even know my char specs in Through the Looking Glass" but I went and searched it out.
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Vitek: Heh, I already linked it but I probably made mistake with hiding it under one word. :-) I wonder whether everyone missed it or decided to ignore it.
Heh, sometimes I feel like I'm talking to a brick wall, but if people bother to read it, then Rodzaju's investigations are validated, which means you, me and Rodzaju are all town.

Typhoon45 on the other hand is definitely mafia and ViolatorX seems to be his scum buddy, unless there is a framer about, which I find pretty unlikely.
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Vitek: Heh, I already linked it but I probably made mistake with hiding it under one word. :-) I wonder whether everyone missed it or decided to ignore it.
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nmillar: Heh, sometimes I feel like I'm talking to a brick wall, but if people bother to read it, then Rodzaju's investigations are validated, which means you, me and Rodzaju are all town.

Typhoon45 on the other hand is definitely mafia and ViolatorX seems to be his scum buddy, unless there is a framer about, which I find pretty unlikely.
Well, I did read it, more then once, and I do have to say that it definitely helps your cause quite a bit. and Typhoon's lie puts his results into serious doubt now. Not going to move my vote just yet though.
@ Quad the bit you highlighted was an explaniation of the role given to me

Im not going to lie I feel I made a mistake in joining this game as I cant say I ever read any of the alice stuff, I looked briefly at the film and became disinterested. Ive only heard of the more well known characters.

If im completely honest I thought my characters were from batman,

In regards to the nmillar situation, I havent really had an fos on him apart from the convienent timing of his fexen lynch.

In regards to my guilt I could have just sat back and said nothing and have not even mentioned it, If the setup is traditional and their is 3 mafia surely I could have just sat back and waiting for someone to be near lynch and jump on them like several of the others here. I came out due to the fact that we could potentially lose after tonight.

Are my results accurate, Im hoping so it wouldnt surprise me if they wernt, maybe where I only sent one of them to jess I got an incorrect result of the killer, maybe its a framer, maybe we are looking at nmillar as a killer

@rod - If you did investigate someone whos guiliy would you get a flavor that even shows they are guilty, like when a cop investigates a godfather and gets a clean result, It could be you found the red knight as my result get flavor from the white to smokescreen his guilt

Reason the town always loses game from this site is people take the cops word as token, seeing as there are 3 apparently (macho,deputy,flavor) doesnt tally up.

Chapter 8 thats shown shows a fight between a red and a white knight.

I dont know, my votes staying but I think one of the other two cops is either lying or mafia sided as why would town have 2 cops and a deputy.

But ive been given a name and a character running from a kill and thats all I really have to go on.
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TwilightBard: Because coming out claiming Deputy with no pressure and saying you never got the investigation results isn't slightly scummy at this point where if we fuck up once we're toast?
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Typhoon45: Okay... This one is big.

I did get the results. I'm just not allowed to share them (incompetent, remember). I said I didn't to try and lull nMillar into a false sense of security before striking.
Lynch All Lyars really says to vote for you on principle.

So I will.
vote Typhoon45
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bazilisek:
May we have a votecount, please?
The "You ought to have a wooden horse on wheels" votecount

nmillar - 3 - Rodzaju, Typhoon45, ViolatorX
Typhoon45 - 3 - nmillar, QuadrAlien, Orryyrro
nolynch - TwilightBard

Not voting: Vitek

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. It's some five and a half days before sunset.
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ViolatorX: @rod - If you did investigate someone whos guiliy would you get a flavor that even shows they are guilty, like when a cop investigates a godfather and gets a clean result, It could be you found the red knight as my result get flavor from the white to smokescreen his guilt

Reason the town always loses game from this site is people take the cops word as token, seeing as there are 3 apparently (macho,deputy,flavor) doesnt tally up.
I don’t believe I would get any indication of guilt / innocence.
I just get indications of who they are.
As I see it, the cop part of my role shows it is an investigative role, similar to role cop, name cop etc.

Purely because we had a miller, it makes sense that there is a deputy.
Consider if the cop died before the miller was outed.
That would make the miller role completely pointless.
This brings me to a question:
IF we had role cop, what would he have got from miller?

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nmillar:
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Typhoon45:
Clearly, you can’t both be telling the truth.

Typhoon has already admitted to lying about investigation results.
However, (assuming that he is incompetent cop) I can see reason to do so.
Having outed himself as cop, to then say that he can’t reveal would cast suspicion on the role.
This, of course begs the question, why out yourself in the first place.
The error is then compounded by admitting the fact.

I’m loathe to let Nmillar off the hook, but Typhoon is looking more scummy with every post.
At this stage of the game, I don’t think we can afford another mislynch.

Unvote Nmillar

I’m second guessing myself more & more.
I’m not yet ready to throw a l-1 vote.
That nolynch is looking more attractive.