Hmm. Didn't see this one coming, I must admit. I'm still not entirely sure if this means you two were always on the same side to begin with or have just formed some manner of impromptu alliance, but quite frankly I feel a calmer Taleroth is a good thing for the town (and quite possibly my dwindling sanity).

Well, then. I believe I had some logic against Orryyrro back in... good grief, when was it? Post #99. To add to this, he does seem to enjoy keeping the idea of the Jester active, which I seem to remember being suggested as a Mafia tactic. Personally, I don't see there being a jester - in a world where everyone from a normal perspective is mad, will there really be one singled out as considerably madder than the rest of us?

Let's see if my previous logic (rather than switching in rage) had merit...

Vote Orryyrro

The "I don't rejoice in insects at all" votecount

Taleroth - 3 - Typhoon45, Orryyrro, TwilightBard
Orryyrro - 2 - ViolatorX, QuadrAlien
fexen - 1 - jesskitten
Rodzaju - 1 - nmillar
QuadrAlien - 1 - Vitek
Robbeasy - 1 - Rodzaju

Not voting: Taleroth, Robbeasy, fexen

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. It's three and a half days (and a few hours) before sunset.

I was just going off of what had been said previously.

I will not unvote at this point, however. I feel like we have enough evidence for a lynch off of Taleroth's reactions to being the biggest wagon. He has obfuscated, complained and directly avoided claiming anything useful, and I believe that he is just trying to capitalize on everyone's fears to dodge a lynch. I think he's scum, and my vote shall remain.

Not madder, just mad in a different manner.

Also, I don't think the possibility of the presence of a jester should prevent us from actually lynching whoever seems the scummiest, even if they may be the jester.

How much time we got till the day is over?

9am GMT on the 24th according to the second post.

No one comments on my fexen thing? Really? How is this,
written from a town point of view? This totally sounds like he's referring to town as a "them" entity instead of an "us" entity. He is sooo scummy. Look at his response to my accusation. Evidence he wants to withhold till "later".

Oh well. Whether he is or not, it's no use spreading my vote out to someone that's not going to be considered for a lynch, when we have 3 days and change left and I may not be very available the rest of today/this weekend (long holiday weekend! :D) to swing my vote.

I don't see Taleroth being a Mafia at all. I just can't justify that from the tone of his posts. I don't think he's a jester either - and as I said earlier, I think the people who are bringing all these jester possibilities up are scummy as third party speculation on Day 1 is nearly always wrong (unless - heck even if - one claims 3rd party right off, as we've seen in GM4).

There are 3rd party "tells", but they are very difficult to pinpoint from actual Mafia - "3rd party" is not equivalent to "scummy but not scummy enough to be Mafia". I find people who accuse others of being a 3rd party role are oftentimes Mafia themselves, trying to lynch someone that they know are not Mafia (in which case they may avoid looking bad being on the lynchwagon by saying "oh, I thought he was at least 3rd party, guess not").

To me Orry's been the one who's been pushing that jester angle the most.

My vote's going back on Orry pending other major developments, or others agree and a wagon starts on fexen.

Unvote, vote Orryyrro (still only L-4)

(PS, Over the next 24-48 hours or so, those with scattered votes need to start thinking of consolidating their votes to avoid a no-lynch, unless they can convince others to join them before then. As activity tends to dip during weekends and we may end up with a no-lynch otherwise.)

You're trying to provoke me, are you?

I think that's a pretty weak argument to be honest; I've often used the same context as the bit you've quoted from fexen in mafia games in the past.

I'm going to have a re-read of the entire thread over the weekend (it's my daughter's 2nd Birthday tomorrow, so don't expect anything till late Saturday at the earliest), and come back with my reads on people so far.

A fair point until you notice the important moment where Rodzaju seems to finally get through to him, and his tune changes completely. He's become open about his reasons and has pointed out what he'd thought was a good idea in his previous play. On top of that, I may have a pretty good idea of why his posts seemed so erratic.

He was terrified. How many of us - myself included - have held votes against this beginner in the past couple of days? He had the idea that he's going to be lynched regardless, without a friend in the game, and thus wouldn't reveal what he was doing to anyone.

And you, Typhoon, seem prepared to dismiss his recovery in order to go for what you still perceive as the "easy lynch", due to the uncoordinated voting against him. You also say you were going with what others had said before, but it would appear that you were the one who first called upon Taleroth to claim. I'm going to make this quite clear. I do not trust you, and if it were not for the fact that I have suspicions as to Orryyrro being your scumbuddy I would put my vote against you right now.

I'm 99% sure I'm getting the use of this statement right this time:
FoS: Typhoon45

Well, giving a few thoughts since I've been quiet today:

On Taleroth: Well, I'll be honest, I'm going to give the benefit of the doubt here after people got through to him and he made a reasonable explanation for his actions. It's very easyfor us to jump to a quick conclusion when you see behavior you think is odd, ESPECIALLY when under a quick starting deadline. But, of course, I'm going to be keeping a close eye on things.

On Robbeasy: Honestly? I can't see this as Mafia, it's pretty much a big flag going 'KILL ME', because eventually we're going to have to. He can't live as a miller, and if he starts trying to push the town in a bad direction and gets noticed, we have reason to lynch him just to get rid of him. I have to at least say that he's most likely town, because that's frankly the only play he really can make.

Fexen seems to be very positive that Robbeasy isn't a miller...but he hasn't posted anything to prove it. I'm interested in what he has to say, although he doesn't seem too interested in saying anything more. I guess he's going to need some pressure to say something.

Unvote Taleroth, Vote Fexen

I would like to give out my theory but it's propably insane and I don't have any evidence and revealing my ideas would be more harmful than helpful. I don't think day 1 is the right moment to give out such nonsense thoughts.

Giving out your thoughts is the only thing that can help the town - jeez, most theories start with no real basis in fact - its all supposition.

I find it odd so soon after Taleroth that we have another player reluctant. I also take note of what Jesskitten said about your earlier post, but with the proviso English is probably not your first language, so we cant read too much from syntax. What I mostly get from you though is a new player feeling his way into the game - cant really read Town or Mafia off you at the moment.

So in the interests of trying to find out...

Vote Fexen

Okay, as you wish. When you said you're a miller, mafia is less likely to kill you at night because killing you would only prove your words. Now this is good for you if you are a role like a doctor or vigilante because it's better when nobody knows that you're one and you can feel safe. So to sum it up, I think you're a doc or vigi.
Now tell me how this can helpful.