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Bazilisek

I hate to do this but I figure better now than later in the game. Some new things have come up irl to take up my time and I wont be able to focus on this, so Im going to need a replacement.

Enjoy the game everyone!
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Robbeasy: Snip.
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nmillar: Cue everyone claiming miller ... :P
First time around, I completely mis-read this.
I'm thinking "Why would I want to claim to be you?"!!
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nmillar: Cue everyone claiming miller ... :P
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Rodzaju: First time around, I completely mis-read this.
I'm thinking "Why would I want to claim to be you?"!!
Hence the lame joke in my last post! :P
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Typhoon45: Whups, did not realize that my random vote was on you mate

Unvote Robbeasy

I'm just pointing it out because in the first (err.. second) mafia game, Zchinque made a ridiculous statement at the start of the game that was capitalized on, and drove the conversation for a ridiculous amount of time on a false premise. Then, in Mafia #3, Damnation claimed and sealed his doom (which was mostly his fault, though, as he claimed Mafia).

The problem that I have with this kind of scum-hunting is that it has done very little in the past few games that it has been used in. Guys, can we stop beating the dead horse? It isn't working, and has only hurt us townies in the past few games.

Plus, we have to lynch Robb no matter what now. Just to be safe. Face it, man. You aren't going to make it to the endgame, and have likely made it so some newbie investigator is going to investigate you just to double check (hopefully not). But not today. This is a waste of time just focusing on him.
This ^

I know I'm doomed to die at some point. Miller often doesn't get far. But I had to think what was the best way to use the role in Towns interests? Claim early, get reactions, get reads from those reactions. I really have no choice. And I think its worked as well - getting a few different reactions from different players, now its just how to interpret them.

I'm currently quite confused on who is voting for who, so votecount please, Baz...

There will be a wall of text special from me later, bit busy this morning....;o)
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Nazarush: Enjoy the game everyone!
Sorry to see you go, Naz. This real life you talk about must be a difficult place to be in. Maybe next time.

Nazarush has been replaced by TwilightBard, effective immediately.

And because Robbeasy asked so nicely (and because I had it prepared anyway, but let's not tell him that), have a votecount:

The "It does the boots and shoes" votecount

Orryyrro - 3 - ViolatorX, jesskitten, QuadrAlien
Rodzaju - 2 - nmiller, Robbeasy
Typhoon45 - 1 - TwilightBard
nmillar - 1 - Taleroth
ViolatorX - 1 - Orryyrro
QuadrAlien - 1 - Vitek
Robbeasy - 1 - Rodzaju

Not voting: Typhoon45, fexen

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. It's five days before sunset.
Believe me or not, I wasn't lurking, I wasn't aware of the start of the game, call me stupid if you want. If I were mafia I would vote already.
Welcome abard, Twilight....
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Rodzaju: Welcome abard, Twilight....
I refuse to believe my puns are worse than this. :P
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Rodzaju: Welcome abard, Twilight....
We should lynch you right now so we dont have to suffer any more of these...;o)
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jesskitten: I don't find your vote particularly scummy yet (though worth keeping an eye on, but what isn't?), nor his claim scummy, and no comment on that other game since you're still alive. :P I'm not painting Orry as scum because of his opinion, but rather because he didn't vote to back it up when he didn't have a good reason not to do so. It's the wishy-washy trying to play nice with everyone to avoid suspicion and attention scumtell.
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Orryyrro: So, because I don't want a quick-lynch of someone who might not be mafia, I am mafia? ViolatorX has no other votes, Rob does. I'm much more comfortable with leaving Violator at L-6 than I am putting Rob at L-4. Basically you're saying I'm too townie.
Too townie? I don't think so. Do you realize everyone "might not be mafia"? And yes you could easily be mafia when you want this. What do you want then? It looks like you want to get everyone to claim by forcing them to find informations. But how do you intend to do so then when you don't want to push them over L-5?

Note to everyone. Remember the we have set deadline for each day and we are to reach conclusion until when... tuesday morning? It's not close but during weekends activity usually drops for some players. (I too will be probably gone on Saturday and most of Sunday) Then the day ends with nolynch (For the record, I would prefer forced lynch.) and this is not exactly desired outcome. Right now we are moving quite slowly with most players (including me) posting only rarely. This way it won't probably end well.
@ Vitek:

I've been thinking something very similar.
Unfortunately, The only candidate for lynch at the mo is Rob.
I don't think this is a good first lynch, but it's better than no lynch.
At a guess, I'd say people are scared to say too much for fear of becoming a target themselves.
It happenned to me last game & it's happenned to Rob here.
You yourself state it's not good lynch and we are not close to deadline yet (not even half of out time has passed) so I think we shouldn't settle with bad lynch. It's not either Robb or nolynch.
Hmm... I can't help but feel Vitek's angle at picking apart Orryyrro's posts is in the complete opposite direction to my own, but there's an interesting point, there - if he's looking for information, then joining a stack on someone else would have been more beneficial than aiming for someone who's got no votes at all - and at the time he stated this, there was no shortage of L-5 stacks to move to L-4.

...I'm not entirely sure where that leaves my own thoughts, but still.
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Rodzaju: @ Vitek:

I've been thinking something very similar.
Unfortunately, The only candidate for lynch at the mo is Rob.
I don't think this is a good first lynch, but it's better than no lynch.
At a guess, I'd say people are scared to say too much for fear of becoming a target themselves.
It happenned to me last game & it's happenned to Rob here.
I completely disagree that I'm your best candidate for a lynch (but then I would!).

It all comes down to whether you believe me or not - if you do, then I'm a terrible first day lynch, because it removes a Townie. I'm not going to make it to endgame anyway, but I would hope my play so far has convinced enough people I'm being truthful.

I promised a big read today - here we go...

Rodzaju - first one to jump in and immediately vote me when I claimed Miller. Also muttering about time running out when we still have plenty, and still pushing for my lynch.
Read is Mafia.

Jesskitten - interesting one. Went after Orryrro with a fairly weak theory about FoS ing, especially when you consider she conveniently ignored Quadralien, who also FoS'd me at the same time. Not liking that one bit. Read is leaning Mafia.

nmillar - a little quiet, which is unlike his usual way of playing, but said nothing of any suspicion yet. Town.

Typhoon - thought the way he used the Wiki and omitted key words from it was very suspicious, throwing more suspicion on me that was warranted. Not a Town move at all, that. Leaning Mafia.

Quadralien - the FoS on me after my claim was slightly odd, but can be put down to being new, and anyway removed it later. Slight worries of guilt by association - why would Jesskitten ignore that FoS but attack Orry's?? Neutral, with reservations.

fexen - late to the game, or classic Mafia lurking behaviour??? Cant say, and new, so gotta really go with the former. Leaning Town.

Taleroth - not posted hugely but was very dismissive of my claim and any perceived benefits it might bring town. Pushed for lynching me, but never bothered to put down a vote. Leaning Mafia.

Vitek - Nothing suspicious really so far, except for the deadline warning - I think we have plenty of time yet. Leaning Town

Orryrro - Another interesting one. Has been popping around with his voting, but remember, as Town, its the only weapon we have! Getting info is always a good move. Leaning Town.

ViolaterX - like the avatar btw - a fan myself..;o) anyhoo, best Town read I've got so far - considered posting that makes sense.

TwilightBard / Nazarush - not posted enough to get a read!

Ha! Reading back through I note I've got 4 Mafia suspects...d'oh! Just goes to show how paranoia can set in really quickly...

There you have my reads. If you think I've outlived my usefulness now you've got them, then go for it and lynch me. But you'll be making a big mistake.

Anyway, vote stays with Rodzaju - hes done nothing to convince me otherwise than that he is Mafia...
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Robbeasy: Typhoon - thought the way he used the Wiki and omitted key words from it was very suspicious, throwing more suspicion on me that was warranted. Not a Town move at all, that. Leaning Mafia.
Oh, that's what you're making a big deal about? I did say "if I remember correctly", and I suppose that I have repeatedly missed a quote from nMillar from the wiki. Although you focusing on a minor point is quite suspicious, especially if it had already been disproved.