Posted June 04, 2011
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nmillar
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my name is catte
i touch your foods
Registered: Mar 2010
From United Kingdom
Posted June 04, 2011
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We're at LYLO at the moment, a nolynch would allow me to have another go at investigating ViolatorX.
If there's no night kill we'd be where we are now but with more information and if there is, then at least there are 3 people instead of 4. We'd still be at LYLO but in a way that benefits us more.
Alternatively, we could try a nolynch and then nmillar blocks me again. If there's a nightkill I can verify that I was blocked by nmillar and therefore it couldn't be him. Of course then there's the danger I'll be nightkilled and unable to confirm anything. In that case it'd be down to the three of you.
Anyway, a nolynch really seems the best bet.
unvote nmillar, vote nolynch
Just to make sure we're both on the same page, you're betting I am mafia, I'm betting I'm not. I'm not betting that you are.
Is that how you understood it as well?
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ViolatorX
Personal Jesus
Registered: Oct 2010
From United Kingdom
Posted June 04, 2011
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Robbeasy - not possible. I role blocked him the night before last and there were 2 deaths.
ViolatorX - has been on my case for several days now. Would have killed me if he was mafia.
eyeball226 - role blocked last night; no deaths.
nmillar - I would have killed eyeball226 as I outlined in an earlier post.
I am 100% convinced that eyeball226 is the last mafia member and would be prepared to put my money where my mouth is and place a bet on it.
Eyeball just for me hasnt claimed anything relevent, upon mentioning andys 1 shot ability it tallies up why nobody died just like nmillar and has and has but anything made you look more suspect.
@robb
As regards to flavor my night 2, maybe I startled the SK when I went to visit you, It after rereading it looks like It could have been a trap set by the SK to kill rob and I have walked into it? I didnt get a specific answer, In night one I basically visited vitek and it said it looks like noone else is coming and after a few hours I went back to my socket.
I visited Vitek Night one as I believed rod due to his erattic behavior over the day could have been the SK, Vitek was doing a lot of probing around rod on day 1 and he gave me the strongest read that he was town. I mentioned Rod could have been and sk in day 2, I believed at the time he was my strongest read for non town.
@eyeball I do find it is appearing you are cracking under the pressure and are trying to lobby a no-lynch to save yourself, Even if did investigate me or Robb you havent revealed anything relevent or believeable anyway and I dont think you have the effect to change anyones opinions.
In regards to the elbaz lynch I would say eyeball started it and was the main instigator of it mentioning it in several posts.
I voted because of a day of argueing and deliberation, he just jumped in and it looked like he was scoring a quick lynch on me to save himself.
Nmillar - did an event tally and assumed he was the guility one.
As much as I dont trust either of you I have to say Nmillars choices over the game seem far more logical and more occurant to what has actually happened. Everyone Eyeball has chose were already dead or now dead. Ironic maybe suspicious definately.
Me,rob and nmillar have been confirmed by others of the locations/events we have been yet here on what could be the last day you have no confirmation of your wereabouts, We can't ask who you have questioned as they are all dead thats enough to convince me it must be you unless nmillar has devised an impressive framing of you which has me completely fooled.
Vote Eyeball226
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my name is catte
i touch your foods
Registered: Mar 2010
From United Kingdom
Posted June 04, 2011
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Everyone Eyeball has chose were already dead or now dead. Ironic maybe suspicious definately.
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Everyone I chose was either already dead (er, no - I can't investigate a dead person) or is now dead? Well considering I've only had the chance to investigate 3 people it's not that hard to believe they're all dead considering 8 players are dead at this point.
Anyway, it seems to me that you're bandwagoning a bit here, I'm starting to wonder if nmillar's town and just paranoid.
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nmillar
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Registered: Feb 2009
From United Kingdom
Posted June 04, 2011
Yes, that's how I understand it.
I'm not sure a no lynch is going to benefit us at all. If you are mafia, you could just forgo the night kill and lie about your investigation, so we'll still be at a choice between you and ViolatorX tomorrow.
And I'm going to go back to night 2; the night that nobody died. I blocked GhostQlyph, who turned up town, so I didn't protect anyone.
With a Serial Killer and the mafia on the loose, two people must have been targeted, so for nobody to die there has to have been a reason for both those targeted people to survive.
Vitek (Town Bodyguard) was already dead at this stage, and that's the only defensive role revealed so far.
The only person to claim another defensive role is ViolatorX, so it makes sense that he managed to protect the correct person on Night 2. The other no-kill would be the one-shot bulletproof serial killer, as you yourself pointed out.
The only other way of explaining it would be that the mafia missed the deadline, but with two of them still alive at that stage(Rodzaju + unknown), that seems extremely unlikely.
I'm presuming what ViolatorX meant to say was, "Eyeball just for me hasn't claimed anything relevant, upon mentioning andy's 1 shot ability it tallies up why nobody died just like nmillar said and has but anything made you look more suspect."
I'm not sure a no lynch is going to benefit us at all. If you are mafia, you could just forgo the night kill and lie about your investigation, so we'll still be at a choice between you and ViolatorX tomorrow.
And I'm going to go back to night 2; the night that nobody died. I blocked GhostQlyph, who turned up town, so I didn't protect anyone.
With a Serial Killer and the mafia on the loose, two people must have been targeted, so for nobody to die there has to have been a reason for both those targeted people to survive.
Vitek (Town Bodyguard) was already dead at this stage, and that's the only defensive role revealed so far.
The only person to claim another defensive role is ViolatorX, so it makes sense that he managed to protect the correct person on Night 2. The other no-kill would be the one-shot bulletproof serial killer, as you yourself pointed out.
The only other way of explaining it would be that the mafia missed the deadline, but with two of them still alive at that stage(Rodzaju + unknown), that seems extremely unlikely.
I'm presuming what ViolatorX meant to say was, "Eyeball just for me hasn't claimed anything relevant, upon mentioning andy's 1 shot ability it tallies up why nobody died just like nmillar said and has but anything made you look more suspect."
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my name is catte
i touch your foods
Registered: Mar 2010
From United Kingdom
Posted June 04, 2011
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The only reason people know they've been roleblocked is because they were stopped from using their power.
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And I'm going to go back to night 2; the night that nobody died. I blocked GhostQlyph, who turned up town, so I didn't protect anyone.
With a Serial Killer and the mafia on the loose, two people must have been targeted, so for nobody to die there has to have been a reason for both those targeted people to survive.
Vitek (Town Bodyguard) was already dead at this stage, and that's the only defensive role revealed so far.
The only person to claim another defensive role is ViolatorX, so it makes sense that he managed to protect the correct person on Night 2. The other no-kill would be the one-shot bulletproof serial killer, as you yourself pointed out.
The only other way of explaining it would be that the mafia missed the deadline, but with two of them still alive at that stage(Rodzaju + unknown), that seems extremely unlikely.
Wrong, Rodzaju was dead at the end of the day before the night that you roleblocked Ghost on. With a Serial Killer and the mafia on the loose, two people must have been targeted, so for nobody to die there has to have been a reason for both those targeted people to survive.
Vitek (Town Bodyguard) was already dead at this stage, and that's the only defensive role revealed so far.
The only person to claim another defensive role is ViolatorX, so it makes sense that he managed to protect the correct person on Night 2. The other no-kill would be the one-shot bulletproof serial killer, as you yourself pointed out.
The only other way of explaining it would be that the mafia missed the deadline, but with two of them still alive at that stage(Rodzaju + unknown), that seems extremely unlikely.
Hmm, here is an alternative scenario:
The SK got Andy (using up his one shot) while the lone mafia roleblocker deliberately didn't kill anyone and instead blocked someone in an attempt to gain a role confirmation.
I'm presuming what ViolatorX meant to say was, "Eyeball just for me hasn't claimed anything relevant, upon mentioning andy's 1 shot ability it tallies up why nobody died just like nmillar said and has but anything made you look more suspect."
I'm still not quite sure what ViolatorX meant there. Why does me mentioning Andy's one shot ability make me more suspect? As a role cop, I got info on his power rather than his alignment. He was a bulletproof SK rather than a vanilla SK, the murdering is part of the alignment, like being a vanilla mafia member.![nmillar](https://images.gog.com/15eaaeebd1f3f339d7fc432680abb0e9fcae66bdc85fffc3b5a7c074ca21879e_forum_avatar.jpg)
nmillar
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Robbeasy
Too Old
Registered: Sep 2008
From United Kingdom
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nmillar
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my name is catte
i touch your foods
Registered: Mar 2010
From United Kingdom
Posted June 04, 2011
We wouldn't be worse off though and at least I will have a chance to investigate ViolatorX even if you don't believe me.
eyeball226: The SK got Andy (using up his one shot) while the lone mafia roleblocker deliberately didn't kill anyone and instead blocked someone in an attempt to gain a role confirmation.
nmillar: Andy was the SK, so had to have been targeted by the mafia. *facepalm*
Yeah, I'm an idiot.
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Yeah, I'm an idiot.
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ViolatorX
Personal Jesus
Registered: Oct 2010
From United Kingdom
Posted June 04, 2011
I can protect someone being killed from a heat based object, So im assuming I can protect you from nmillar(oven) if we were to lynch eyeball
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nmillar
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Robbeasy
Too Old
Registered: Sep 2008
From United Kingdom
Posted June 04, 2011
Not if he's dead - im thinking of voting Eyeball. Mafias ONLY chance if Eyeball turns up town and you both roleblock is to forego the NK and try again tomorrow - if they attack and are roleblocked we know who they are. But its the only way I can think of to narrow it down with minimum risk - and hey I might be right and eyeball be the last Mafia!
vote Eyeball226
vote Eyeball226
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my name is catte
i touch your foods
Registered: Mar 2010
From United Kingdom
Posted June 04, 2011
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Well, with Robbeasy voting for me I'm dead and we've lost. Well done guys! There'll be a night kill and then the mafia will kill the last townie in the morning.
My email address is my username @hotmail.com by the way nmillar.
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