Posted June 02, 2011
nmillar
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Damnation
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Damnation Sorry, data for given user is currently unavailable. Please, try again later. View profile View wishlist Start conversation Invite to friends Invite to friends Accept invitation Accept invitation Pending invitation... Unblock chat Registered: Mar 2009
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Posted June 02, 2011
The day seems relatively short, and you're all convinced there is someone left who must die. But who?
"Process of elimination. Kill one today, block them tonight, then check for murders?" nmillar suggests
"Seems fine, let's go!" Robbeasy agrees and off you go.
elbaz jumps in and is suportive, wanting ViolatorX to be the first to go. But no way, he must be the scum for his enthusiasm to join the bulletproof theory, right?[/i]
You all team up on him and start pounding him with waiting for his defense. Scum don't get a second chance.
After a while, you're pretty sure he's dead, but hit him just one last time. By accident, you hit the on button and elbaz tries to emit some strange sounds of a crushing procedure, but it faints out quickly.
"Who was he then?" ViolatorX asks.
"Well, seems like he wasn't who we thought he was." eyeball226 replies.
***elbaz has been lynched.
elbaz was the Trash Compactor (Town Vanilla)
It is now Night 4.
Night actions are due within 36 hours from this post.
Day will break in no more than 48 hours.
Discussion in this topic may not continue until a new day dawns.
"Process of elimination. Kill one today, block them tonight, then check for murders?" nmillar suggests
"Seems fine, let's go!" Robbeasy agrees and off you go.
elbaz jumps in and is suportive, wanting ViolatorX to be the first to go. But no way, he must be the scum for his enthusiasm to join the bulletproof theory, right?[/i]
You all team up on him and start pounding him with waiting for his defense. Scum don't get a second chance.
After a while, you're pretty sure he's dead, but hit him just one last time. By accident, you hit the on button and elbaz tries to emit some strange sounds of a crushing procedure, but it faints out quickly.
"Who was he then?" ViolatorX asks.
"Well, seems like he wasn't who we thought he was." eyeball226 replies.
***elbaz has been lynched.
elbaz was the Trash Compactor (Town Vanilla)
It is now Night 4.
Night actions are due within 36 hours from this post.
Day will break in no more than 48 hours.
Discussion in this topic may not continue until a new day dawns.
Damnation
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From Denmark
Posted June 04, 2011
Dawn penetrates the night, and you gather once more, possibly for the last time.
You have your procedure, eyeing one another.
And what do8 you know? Nobody died again! Perhaps it will be simple to root out the culprit now? Or perhaps he is sly?
It is now Day 5
With 4 alive, it takes 3 to lynch.
Deadline is 8th of June, 16:00 GMT+2.
You have your procedure, eyeing one another.
And what do8 you know? Nobody died again! Perhaps it will be simple to root out the culprit now? Or perhaps he is sly?
It is now Day 5
With 4 alive, it takes 3 to lynch.
Deadline is 8th of June, 16:00 GMT+2.
nmillar
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nmillar Sorry, data for given user is currently unavailable. Please, try again later. View profile View wishlist Start conversation Invite to friends Invite to friends Accept invitation Accept invitation Pending invitation... Unblock chat Registered: Feb 2009
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Posted June 04, 2011
Well, I figure I should state now that I didn't stick to yesterday's plan. During the night phase, it crossed my mind that if eyeball226 is the last mafia member, then he'd probably target Robbeasy. ViolatorX is clearly going to vote for me today no matter what, so that would have been an easy victory for the mafia if eyeball226 was indeed the last mafia member.
This does raise the question about how eyeball226 knew andy433uk had a one-shot bulletproof ability (though this isn't mentioned during his death, so could still be a lie), but if that is true then eyeball226 could easily have deduced that from the various role claims and night kills that have happened over the last five days.
This is not another GhostQlyph situation. ViolatorX's ability can only protect people from the SK and we have no bulletproof people left alive. The only way to prevent a night kill would be a successful role block, and guess who was the target of that ability?
Vote eyeball226.
Unfortunately we are still in the predicament that ViolatorX believes I am the last mafia member - I really hope you realise my successful role block of eyeball226 should be the last nail in eyeball226's coffin. I was wrong about GhostQlyph, elbaz and even you, ViolatorX, but the evidence I've outlined in this post is unquestionable.
The other option would be to go for a 'no-lynch' today and I could role block you tonight to prove I am who I say I am, though that does mean someone is going to die tonight since eyeball226 will be able to target whoever he likes; probably Robbeasy. That would leave you, me and eyeball226 alive tomorrow and we'd still be relying on you to make the right decision.
This does raise the question about how eyeball226 knew andy433uk had a one-shot bulletproof ability (though this isn't mentioned during his death, so could still be a lie), but if that is true then eyeball226 could easily have deduced that from the various role claims and night kills that have happened over the last five days.
This is not another GhostQlyph situation. ViolatorX's ability can only protect people from the SK and we have no bulletproof people left alive. The only way to prevent a night kill would be a successful role block, and guess who was the target of that ability?
Vote eyeball226.
Unfortunately we are still in the predicament that ViolatorX believes I am the last mafia member - I really hope you realise my successful role block of eyeball226 should be the last nail in eyeball226's coffin. I was wrong about GhostQlyph, elbaz and even you, ViolatorX, but the evidence I've outlined in this post is unquestionable.
The other option would be to go for a 'no-lynch' today and I could role block you tonight to prove I am who I say I am, though that does mean someone is going to die tonight since eyeball226 will be able to target whoever he likes; probably Robbeasy. That would leave you, me and eyeball226 alive tomorrow and we'd still be relying on you to make the right decision.
nmillar
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nmillar Sorry, data for given user is currently unavailable. Please, try again later. View profile View wishlist Start conversation Invite to friends Invite to friends Accept invitation Accept invitation Pending invitation... Unblock chat Registered: Feb 2009
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Posted June 04, 2011
And I should remind you that GhostQlyph confirmed that I am indeed a role blocker.
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my name is catte Sorry, data for given user is currently unavailable. Please, try again later. View profile View wishlist Start conversation Invite to friends Invite to friends Accept invitation Accept invitation Pending invitation... Unblock chat Registered: Mar 2010
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Posted June 04, 2011
Great, now we have no info on ViolatorX. GhostQlyph confirmed nmillar was a roleblocker but that says nothing about what side you're on. In a game with so many power roles, I'm pretty sure there'd be a mafia roleblocker. We already had a Jailer.
We're now at LYLO, if we lynch the wrong person there's sure to be a nightkill and then that's it.
I now strongly believe nmillar to be scum. He's either scum or a complete idiot, blocking me means we know nothing about ViolatorX and he's made me really suspicious of him. I know nmillar's not an idiot though.
I believe you've turned on me suddenly like this because you knew that if I had investigated ViolatorX I would have discovered his role checked out.
vote nmillar, you've got some explaining to do.
We're now at LYLO, if we lynch the wrong person there's sure to be a nightkill and then that's it.
I now strongly believe nmillar to be scum. He's either scum or a complete idiot, blocking me means we know nothing about ViolatorX and he's made me really suspicious of him. I know nmillar's not an idiot though.
I believe you've turned on me suddenly like this because you knew that if I had investigated ViolatorX I would have discovered his role checked out.
vote nmillar, you've got some explaining to do.
nmillar
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nmillar Sorry, data for given user is currently unavailable. Please, try again later. View profile View wishlist Start conversation Invite to friends Invite to friends Accept invitation Accept invitation Pending invitation... Unblock chat Registered: Feb 2009
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Posted June 04, 2011
eyeball226: Great, now we have no info on ViolatorX. GhostQlyph confirmed nmillar was a roleblocker but that says nothing about what side you're on. In a game with so many power roles, I'm pretty sure there'd be a mafia roleblocker. We already had a Jailer.
We're now at LYLO, if we lynch the wrong person there's sure to be a nightkill and then that's it.
I now strongly believe nmillar to be scum. He's either scum or a complete idiot, blocking me means we know nothing about ViolatorX and he's made me really suspicious of him. I know nmillar's not an idiot though.
I believe you've turned on me suddenly like this because you knew that if I had investigated ViolatorX I would have discovered his role checked out.
vote nmillar, you've got some explaining to do.
No, I've explained why I changed my mind about who to role block. We're now at LYLO, if we lynch the wrong person there's sure to be a nightkill and then that's it.
I now strongly believe nmillar to be scum. He's either scum or a complete idiot, blocking me means we know nothing about ViolatorX and he's made me really suspicious of him. I know nmillar's not an idiot though.
I believe you've turned on me suddenly like this because you knew that if I had investigated ViolatorX I would have discovered his role checked out.
vote nmillar, you've got some explaining to do.
Originally I though ViolatorX was the last mafia member (hence the original plan) given his aggressive attitude towards me, and I took that into consideration when deciding who to role block.
By targeting you, there were two possible results:
1. You are mafia; nobody dies.
2. You are not mafia; somebody dies, but you are able to confirm the role block (unless of course you are the target of the night kill).
Given example 2 above, if I was mafia I would have had you killed off last night. ViolatorX probably can't confirm a role block since his ability is used solely to protect against the serial killer, so there would be no conclusive evidence against anyone. With Robb already on-side, it would have been easy to go after ViolatorX today.
You previously stated that if we were left with just three people (you, me and Robbeasy) that you would vote for me, but I find it more likely that you would kill Robbeasy to leave you with an easy win, since it wouldn't take too much to convince ViolatorX to vote against me. Robbeasy. Robbeasy on the other hand, is taking all evidence into account; a real danger to you. I believe you targeted him, and by role blocking you I have given town the opportunity to win.
Unfortunately for you, I didn't follow through with yesterday's agreement and all evidence now points to you.
Robbeasy
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Posted June 04, 2011
Ha - I just knew this was going to happen - highly annoying my internet connection went down while the Elbaz lynch went down...
I have to say to the other remaining town members - and dont take this personally please - What the bloody hell were you thinking when you lynched Elbaz??!!!!!!!!
Theres been claim and counter claim from everyone - pretty much the ONLY way to still be in this predicament was to Lynch Elbaz - he had no bearing on any happenings since Day1.
If we had lynched Eyeball, we would have found out if he was indeed what he claimed, which would have cleared it all up for an easy lynch and Town win today.
If we had lynched ViolatorX, we would have found out if he was indeed what he claimed , which would have cleared it all up for an easy lynch and Town win today.
IIf we had lynched nmillar, we would have found out if he was indeed what he claimed , which would have cleared it all up for an easy lynch and Town win today.
Instead, you go for Elbaz, who cant clear up ANYTHING that has been claimed at all!! The remaining Mafia member must have been laughing their tits off.....
Now where are we? Claim and counter claim again.
No kill, which means basically three scenarios
nmillar is right - roleblocked eyeball, eyeball is Mafia
nmillar is Mafia - didnt put in a night kill, so he could claim a roleblock of eyeball.
Hell - it could be Violatorx - nmillar roleblocked eyeball, but Violator didnt put a kill in to sew the seeds of doubt!
Theoretically it could be me - for the same reasons as it could be ViolatorX...
I srceamed and thumped the table when I saw we'd lynched Elbaz, i really did. My Internet provider has got a lot to answer for.....
rant over - we are in this position now, so we have one more chance to get it right...only one more bit of information has been proven, and that was that Elbaz was indeed Town Vanilla.
I cant take what anyone really says today as true - we are in exactl;y the same position as yesterday. All I can do is look back at previous days and use that as evidence going forward. All we are going to get today is more claim and counter claim.
Elbaz WAS Town, which makes Rods chase even more scummy, because he knew that fact. One player supported Rod day 1 - nmillar. Im not going to vote just yet, as I want to go back through everything before fully making up my mind. But its FoS nmillar at the moment
I have to say to the other remaining town members - and dont take this personally please - What the bloody hell were you thinking when you lynched Elbaz??!!!!!!!!
Theres been claim and counter claim from everyone - pretty much the ONLY way to still be in this predicament was to Lynch Elbaz - he had no bearing on any happenings since Day1.
If we had lynched Eyeball, we would have found out if he was indeed what he claimed, which would have cleared it all up for an easy lynch and Town win today.
If we had lynched ViolatorX, we would have found out if he was indeed what he claimed , which would have cleared it all up for an easy lynch and Town win today.
IIf we had lynched nmillar, we would have found out if he was indeed what he claimed , which would have cleared it all up for an easy lynch and Town win today.
Instead, you go for Elbaz, who cant clear up ANYTHING that has been claimed at all!! The remaining Mafia member must have been laughing their tits off.....
Now where are we? Claim and counter claim again.
No kill, which means basically three scenarios
nmillar is right - roleblocked eyeball, eyeball is Mafia
nmillar is Mafia - didnt put in a night kill, so he could claim a roleblock of eyeball.
Hell - it could be Violatorx - nmillar roleblocked eyeball, but Violator didnt put a kill in to sew the seeds of doubt!
Theoretically it could be me - for the same reasons as it could be ViolatorX...
I srceamed and thumped the table when I saw we'd lynched Elbaz, i really did. My Internet provider has got a lot to answer for.....
rant over - we are in this position now, so we have one more chance to get it right...only one more bit of information has been proven, and that was that Elbaz was indeed Town Vanilla.
I cant take what anyone really says today as true - we are in exactl;y the same position as yesterday. All I can do is look back at previous days and use that as evidence going forward. All we are going to get today is more claim and counter claim.
Elbaz WAS Town, which makes Rods chase even more scummy, because he knew that fact. One player supported Rod day 1 - nmillar. Im not going to vote just yet, as I want to go back through everything before fully making up my mind. But its FoS nmillar at the moment
nmillar
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nmillar Sorry, data for given user is currently unavailable. Please, try again later. View profile View wishlist Start conversation Invite to friends Invite to friends Accept invitation Accept invitation Pending invitation... Unblock chat Registered: Feb 2009
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Posted June 04, 2011
This is the biggest piece of evidence. The only information revealed by eyeball226's supposed 'Flavour Cop' role that hasn't been posted by other people already is that andy433uk had a 1-shot bullet-proof ability. If this was the case, then it would have been revealed on his death. Have a look at other mafia games (*cough cough* Mafia #2 ...) and you'll see that all abilities are revealed on death.
my name is catte
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Posted June 04, 2011
Hmm, it's interesting that you think those are the only two situations. If anything it was in the mafia's interest for there to be no night kill because now we're at LYLO with 4 people instead of 3. That's a clear advantage.
You roleblocking me has proved very little because just as you propose there was no nightkill because I was blocked, there also might have been no nightkill because you were busy blocking. There also might have been no nightkill simply because ViolatorX realised that it would put him at an advantage.
If you hadn't blocked me then I would have been able to confirm ViolatorX's role (which interestingly you ruled out yesterday in post 623 but seem happy to accept now). If I had been mafia and nightkilled someone then how was I planning to tell you ViolatorX's role especially since you think I was going to kill Robbeasy.
WHAT I WAS TYPING BEFORE NMILLAR'S POST:
Ok, so I've just been going through things in my head and I'm definitely sure of Robbeasy's innocence.
He was apparently roleblocked by nmillar on the night Andy433uk and Twilightbard died. Now... if Robbeasy was scum then nmillar would be a townie and therefore would be telling the truth when he says he roleblocked Robbeasy. This would mean that Andy433uk wouldn't have died because the single mafia member* would have been blocked.
Robbeasy can't have been that mafia member. Now, I have no doubt that nmillar is a roleblocker but I'm not sure if there's anything that proves him innocent. It's feasible that nmillar didn't block anyone that night because he was doing the night kill.
*we now know this as there are 4 people in the game and it's still going.
You roleblocking me has proved very little because just as you propose there was no nightkill because I was blocked, there also might have been no nightkill because you were busy blocking. There also might have been no nightkill simply because ViolatorX realised that it would put him at an advantage.
If you hadn't blocked me then I would have been able to confirm ViolatorX's role (which interestingly you ruled out yesterday in post 623 but seem happy to accept now). If I had been mafia and nightkilled someone then how was I planning to tell you ViolatorX's role especially since you think I was going to kill Robbeasy.
WHAT I WAS TYPING BEFORE NMILLAR'S POST:
Ok, so I've just been going through things in my head and I'm definitely sure of Robbeasy's innocence.
He was apparently roleblocked by nmillar on the night Andy433uk and Twilightbard died. Now... if Robbeasy was scum then nmillar would be a townie and therefore would be telling the truth when he says he roleblocked Robbeasy. This would mean that Andy433uk wouldn't have died because the single mafia member* would have been blocked.
Robbeasy can't have been that mafia member. Now, I have no doubt that nmillar is a roleblocker but I'm not sure if there's anything that proves him innocent. It's feasible that nmillar didn't block anyone that night because he was doing the night kill.
*we now know this as there are 4 people in the game and it's still going.
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thealtmaster Sorry, data for given user is currently unavailable. Please, try again later. View profile View wishlist Start conversation Invite to friends Invite to friends Accept invitation Accept invitation Pending invitation... Unblock chat Registered: Jun 2011
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Posted June 04, 2011
nmillar: This is the biggest piece of evidence. The only information revealed by eyeball226's supposed 'Flavour Cop' role that hasn't been posted by other people already is that andy433uk had a 1-shot bullet-proof ability. If this was the case, then it would have been revealed on his death. Have a look at other mafia games (*cough cough* Mafia #2 ...) and you'll see that all abilities are revealed on death.
eyeball226 here, just made an alt to get around the 10 minute post merge. I'm not a flavour cop, I'm a role cop. A flavour cop would get something like where in the kitchen the target lives. Anyway, why would I make something like that up? Either it's true or Damnation is screwing me over.nmillar
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nmillar Sorry, data for given user is currently unavailable. Please, try again later. View profile View wishlist Start conversation Invite to friends Invite to friends Accept invitation Accept invitation Pending invitation... Unblock chat Registered: Feb 2009
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Posted June 04, 2011
Right, let's look at what would have happened if other people were the final mafia member:
Robbeasy - not possible. I role blocked him the night before last and there were 2 deaths.
ViolatorX - has been on my case for several days now. Would have killed me if he was mafia.
eyeball226 - role blocked last night; no deaths.
nmillar - I would have killed eyeball226 as I outlined in an earlier post.
I am 100% convinced that eyeball226 is the last mafia member and would be prepared to put my money where my mouth is and place a bet on it.
Robbeasy - not possible. I role blocked him the night before last and there were 2 deaths.
ViolatorX - has been on my case for several days now. Would have killed me if he was mafia.
eyeball226 - role blocked last night; no deaths.
nmillar - I would have killed eyeball226 as I outlined in an earlier post.
I am 100% convinced that eyeball226 is the last mafia member and would be prepared to put my money where my mouth is and place a bet on it.
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my name is catte Sorry, data for given user is currently unavailable. Please, try again later. View profile View wishlist Start conversation Invite to friends Invite to friends Accept invitation Accept invitation Pending invitation... Unblock chat Registered: Mar 2010
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Posted June 04, 2011
nmillar: Right, let's look at what would have happened if other people were the final mafia member:
Robbeasy - not possible. I role blocked him the night before last and there were 2 deaths.
ViolatorX - has been on my case for several days now. Would have killed me if he was mafia.
eyeball226 - role blocked last night; no deaths.
nmillar - I would have killed eyeball226 as I outlined in an earlier post.
I am 100% convinced that eyeball226 is the last mafia member and would be prepared to put my money where my mouth is and place a bet on it.
I'll take you up on that. When I turn out to be innocent you have to buy me Dungeon Keeper. :P Robbeasy - not possible. I role blocked him the night before last and there were 2 deaths.
ViolatorX - has been on my case for several days now. Would have killed me if he was mafia.
eyeball226 - role blocked last night; no deaths.
nmillar - I would have killed eyeball226 as I outlined in an earlier post.
I am 100% convinced that eyeball226 is the last mafia member and would be prepared to put my money where my mouth is and place a bet on it.
But seriously, it was foolish to roleblock me because now everything is confusing. If you'd stuck to the plan then we'd at least know that couldn't have been ViolatorX, now we know nothing. As I said before, you're either an idiot or scum and I know you're not stupid.
Robbeasy
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Posted June 04, 2011
I especially want a good read of the Elbaz lynch - not done that yet. See who was pushing it most...
Also - Eyeball, correct in your deductions - I a Town, as already claimed. With all the claiming and counter claiming , it had to happen that someone was proven Town. Just a shame someone couldnt be proven Mafia!!
I hope we dont need to wait till monday to hear from Violator....
Right I'm settling down to some post reading - back shortly.
Also - Eyeball, correct in your deductions - I a Town, as already claimed. With all the claiming and counter claiming , it had to happen that someone was proven Town. Just a shame someone couldnt be proven Mafia!!
I hope we dont need to wait till monday to hear from Violator....
Right I'm settling down to some post reading - back shortly.
nmillar
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nmillar Sorry, data for given user is currently unavailable. Please, try again later. View profile View wishlist Start conversation Invite to friends Invite to friends Accept invitation Accept invitation Pending invitation... Unblock chat Registered: Feb 2009
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Posted June 04, 2011
No lynch is also an option.