Ok a few things Quickly as I'm not home till 12 and trying to type on an iPhone is horrible

1 if I Am the killer robbe why did you survive night 2 when I visited you unless like I have said i was blocked by someone I got the text I quoted when visiting you if I was mafia would I really come out and say I even visited you if I had that to hide especially if I had failed in my kill? It proves like I have been saying all along the killer is someone who visited the target he was protecting I'm thinking maybe it is elbaz as he had a lyncher after him


2. Nmillars theory is poor doesnt it seem scummy he ignored who he thought was a killer surely if he was town it would be his duty to block the gulity person he instead let another town die


3.He says he couldn't do both again ignoring that there could be 4 mafia


Also how does it explain by nmillars logic that there were no kills on night 2? Ghost could have just agreed with his statement to try and protect herself from the backlash as he was baiting for her death the whole day

Also eyeball targets someone that has already been revealed YET AGAIN I'm confident in reading the last 2 mafia are eyeball and nmillar with eyeball killing and nmillar doing the blocks.

With a confirmed SK, there's no way there are 2 mafia remaining. 5 vs 7 would be too unbalanced.

Well, my previous investigations simply confirmed claims that had already been made. Since people were saying "how convenient" I thought I'd better investigate one of the two people who hadn't claimed. Sods law dictates that the person I investigate gets NK'd.

Look at it this way, if I was scum what advantage would I have for making myself look suspicious and claim to have investigated the person who was NK'd? And on top of that, why would I give info different from that contained in 'dawn' text? If I was making it up I would certainly make up something less suspicious.

I'll say it again, Andy433uk was 1-shot bulletproof. For him to die last night he must have been targeted once before.

Bah! Yes, Violator, I was well aware nmillar had done exactly what he accused eyeball of doing - ie not thinking townlike at all and roleblocking someone who may have helped in some way - instead did exactly the same as eyeball and roleblocked an unknown. Surely if you had Violator down as number one suspect nmillar, you would roleblock him and save town.
I was keeping that to myself to try and draw nmillar out a little - oh well.

Plus nmillar - you say you now know I'm completely innocent - well, I am, but how in the hell do you know that? You dont get any info about whether your roleblock succeeds or fails, so me just saying it failed doesnt prove anything either way. You seem very keen to get me onside with you there....

Three roles -
nmillar (Town Roleblocker)
ViolatorX (Town Firefighter)
Eyeball226 (Town Role Cop)

One of you, or possibly more is definitely lying.
I think.
Im going to read back through and see if theres any way or scenario in which you could all be truthful, in which case Elbaz has to be considered. But I thibk with a careful enough read and with all the info we now have available to us, someone will show up as a liar....

No rushes to speedlynch here.

5 v 7 Unbalanced? Dont forget we have had a LOT of power roles already proven - Town Watcher, Town Bodyguard, Town Jailer, Town Jack-Of-All-Trades. With possibly another one or two to come should some of the roles above be proven.

Not all that unbalanced.....

You were blocked, but two people died - one by the hands of the mafia, and one by the hands of the SK. You can't have done either as you were blocked, and I don't buy the 4 mafia thing at all.

And yes, I want you onside, because we have a real opportunity for a town win here!

If there were 5 anti-town vs 7 town on Day 1, a mislynch could have been game over straight away. Townies killed overnight by mafia and SK would leave 5 anti-town vs 4 town. Game over. That would be an unbelievably stupid setup.

Right, I'll try and explain this step-by-step:

1. Lynch eyeball226 / ViolatorX today.

2. I will role block whichever of those two is left alive tonight (they have both confirmed power roles, so will be able to validate my claim as role blocker.

3. If nobody dies, then the person blocked is mafia. If somebody dies, then elbaz is mafia, and the person blocked will be able to confirm the role block. If the person I claim to block confirms that I haven't blocked them, then I am mafia.

4. Profit.

Is it not possible that the mafia will forgo their night kill to make you think the roleblocked person is mafia?


One thing that's occurred to me, if I'm not the role cop (I am), who the hell is the cop? Everyone has claimed now and the closest was Ghost's one shot investigation.

Let's see, the current claims are:

nmillar: town roleblocker
Robbeasy: vanilla
elbaz: vanilla (I would say that this is confirmed, but that weird result from Andy433uk has confused me)
ViolatorX: Fireman
eyeball226: Role cop


I still suspect ViolatorX. Apart from it looking unlikely there's an arsonist, his claim about being roleblocked and slipping in oil seems pretty flimsy.

I've had a BIG read back through, from day1.

Eyeball is Town. Theres a couple of posts that convince me, the best being quite early on (post 406).

Gone through all possible scenarios for the day we had no-one die overnight. Nmillar blocked Ghost, who turned up town anyway. That nullifies the block. Eyeball then tells ua Andy (SK) had a bulletproof. So in theory Mafia went for Andy, and Andy survived, but was unable to fulfill his SK role.

The ONLY claim I have come across that stands out as unsubstantiated, impinging on a role already claimed, is ViolatorX claiming being blocked when targetting me.

If it wasn't for that ONE claim, theres a case for everyone telling the truth. Which leads us right back to day 1, and the Rod-Elbaz Lynch scenario. It strikes me we definitely let Elbaz off the hook very easily.

So to sum up, my first suspect is ViolatorX, and if he turns up town, i think its Elbaz. So - nmillar, I'm gonna go with you - vote ViolatorX, you block eyeball. They will confirm or deny tomorrow, we win or not, but it should be clear after that.

Vote ViolatorX

It doesn't matter if they do. Worst case scenario is we lynch the wrong person now, leaving 3 town and 1 mafia going into night stage. If the mafia forgo the night kill, then it's likely we'll lynch the wrong person tomorrow, which will leave me, Robbeasy and one other person alive. The other person would be mafia and would of course be role blocked.

That is interesting... how would he know that? Unless of course he is some kind of mafia power role and targeted Robbeasy. The flavour in his PM might have revealed Robbeasy's home to him.

Like I said, it doesn't matter who gets lynched today, so if you want to vote for ViolatorX then I'll hammer him and role block you tonight. It's a town win regardless; the only unanswered question is which day the win will happen.

If nobody dies, then we lynch you tomorrow. If someone does die, then we lynch elbaz tomorrow.

You've already brought up the possibility of the mafia forgoing the night kill, which would still lead us to lynching you tomorrow. elbaz would then be role blocked on the final night before being lynched the following day.

We could also opt for elbaz today and then agree which of you / ViolatorX gets role blocked tonight (in case I die and can't tell you tomorrow).

Evidence

GhostQlyph confirmed being role blocked and you confirmed I visited GhostQlyph on the same night, which confirms I told the truth.

Last night I role blocked Robbeasy, but the mafia and SK both managed to get kills in, which confirms Robbeasy is town.

Yeah sorry, it looks like your post snuck in while I was typing mine. Your plan seems relatively solid. It seems a safe bet that Robbeasy is town because you roleblocked him last night and we had two kills.

I'm not sure how useful my ability is at this stage of the game, I've already investigated Elbaz. If we lynch ViolatorX and he isn't scum then my power is pretty much useless. Elbaz's role has been confirmed, Robbeasy is almost certainly town and I'm pretty sure you're a roleblocker (although you might be a mafia roleblocker, we mustn't forget that).

It's just occurred to me that if nmillar is mafia roleblocker, it could possibly explain the lack of night kill the other night. Seems unlikely but it's worth considering.

If that was the case, I would have had to make a choice between role blocking and carrying out a night kill last night, since doing both isn't possible (can't be in two places at once). I role blocked Robbeasy to confirm that he is town, so could not have carried out the night kill (andy433uk).

The only way this would be possible is if there were 2 mafia members, but that would have been a 7/5 split and meant a possible game-breaker in night 1, as I outlined before. It seems pretty obvious to me that this game has a 3/1/8 split.

Another point that was brought up (by Robbeasy and ViolatorX) was "why didn't I role block ViolatorX?" If he is mafia, then he would obviously deny being role blocked and I would still be at the centre of suspicion; by targeting Robbeasy instead I attempted to prove two confirmed townies in one move. Unfortunately, Robbeasy is vanilla and can't actually confirm it though!

It's also possible that if I had role blocked someone else then the SK (killed by mafia) would still be alive, so I think it was a good move overall. andy433uk wasn't even on my radar, and would probably have survived to the end game.

If we don't lynch him, I suggest using your ability on ViolatorX to see if he really is a firefighter. Alternatively, use it on me to verify my role and I'll role block ViolatorX instead.

I expect Robbeasy will be night killed tonight since he has the strongest case for being town, so I hope whoever the other two townies are will make the right decision. Of course, I could also be the target, but you'll already know by then who my role block target will be, so you'll have all the answers tomorrow morning (or the morning after if the mafia forgo the night kill).

Yeah, that's what I was suggesting. Since GhostQlyph confirmed you're a roleblocker there isn't even any point in investigating you. The only person it would be useful to investigate is ViolatorX. I propose lynch Elbaz, investigate and roleblock ViolatorX? If his role is a lie, we lynch him, if there's no nightkill we lynch him.

In the unlikely event that he's not mafia then we'd have a final day with you, Robbeasy and me. If it got to that point I'd have to vote for you since it seems impossible for Robbeasy to be mafia.