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Robbeasy: ViolatorX - Vitek died. Both Ghost and Violator seen to visit. This one is only if you believe Twilight....personally Im not sure at all about him - look over the last days posts, very good at setting things out, but never actually comes out with any theories of his own.
A big part of what I've been doing since I claimed was clarifying my claim as people take what I said and twist, even just a little to help justify what they want. I've pointed out that there's a third possibility, that I did NOT see the person who was visiting Vitek's target. I don't know if he found them, or what happened. Ghost's flavor seemed to suggest he found them. If Vitek fulfilled his role as bodyguard and got killed in place of his target there's no way of me knowing who that person is.

As for me not making a case...I've mentioned Elbaz repeatedly. You all think Elbaz should get off the hook because Rodzaju lied so many times...which is a fair view. I ask this though...where is the best place to hide the truth? In as many lies as possible. If we lynched Elbaz before Rodzaju died, then he would have had the other half of his win condition. If we think that Elbaz HAS to be town...then Rodzaju's lying made it easy for Elbaz to hide amongst the town.

You've refused to say anything about your role saying that you don't want to muddy the waters. I say that a claim or even a hint might have pointed us in the right direction in terms of who to target. If you claimed power, then Elbaz would have become an easy target. Makes me wonder if you're avoiding a claim in order to protect him now.


Also Damnation, I voted for Ghost, not Ghost voting for herself, might want to correct that on the vote count
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elbaz: Does it bother any one else that the vote against Ghost was so half-hearted? I guess we'll find out what happens soon. My suspicions remain on nmillar.

@Robbeasy: Didn't eyeball just vote for Ghost? Seems an odd thing to do if he was "quick to rule ghost out." Well, it's all speculation until tomorrow anyway.
Yeah, she's not my most suspected person at the moment but oh well, maybe we'll find something out. If she turns up mafia, I have to stress that I never said she wasn't and only confirmed her role. I am 100% sure she's JoaT and you can just lynch me straight away tomorrow if she isn't.
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Robbeasy: What strikes me most here is nmillar not making a distinction between Ghost flipping Town or Mafia..........
If GhostQlyph flips mafia, then I would assume it's game over, unless there is a third-party somewhere. Hence, no suspects if that proves to be the case.
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Robbeasy: What strikes me most here is nmillar not making a distinction between Ghost flipping Town or Mafia..........
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nmillar: If GhostQlyph flips mafia, then I would assume it's game over, unless there is a third-party somewhere. Hence, no suspects if that proves to be the case.
With all the talk all day of there possibly being 4 Mafia ??.....unlike you to dismiss it out of hand......
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nmillar: If GhostQlyph flips mafia, then I would assume it's game over, unless there is a third-party somewhere. Hence, no suspects if that proves to be the case.
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Robbeasy: With all the talk all day of there possibly being 4 Mafia ??.....unlike you to dismiss it out of hand......
If there are 4 mafia, then the last member is elbaz, as several people have already stated.
After a long day of continuously attacking one another for multiple reasons, where everyone has been aggresive, you finally settle on your deicsion. Surely this person is the liar? Or at least the one who will teach you the most in death?

"It's GhostQlyph I tell you!" nmillar shouts.

"No, it's nmillar!" Robbeasy responds.

"No, it's TwilightBard!" GhostQlyph yells.

"No, it's not me!" TwilightBard defends.

"Then it must be ViolatorX!" GhostQlyph exclaims.

"Yeah!" nmillar agrees.

"What about elbaz?" TwilightBard suggests.

"Oh, yeah, must be him!" GhostQlyph says.

"But it isn't me!" elbaz explains.

"Then andy433uk?" GhostQlyph suggests.

"Why can't it be GhostQlyph?" Robbeasy asks.

"Oh, yeah, it could be. GET HER!" TwilightBard says, and with that, you all begin to attack.

As you all begin kicking, punching, jumping on and what you appliances now can do, GhostQlyph's surface begins to crack, and boiling water flows out. Paying no heed, Robbeasy continues to attempt to crush GhostQlyph until she finally dies.

"So, she's wrecked. Completely destroyed and cannot be repaired. That means we won, right?" nmillar asks.

"I doubt that. There must be one other scum out there." Robbeasy answers.

"Perhaps we should find out who she was BEFORE we start looking for a possible partner in crime?" eyeball226 asks.

"Eh, sure... Who was she then?" andy433uk asks.

TwilightBard checks the wreckage for any clues.

"Well, she wasn't trying to kill us, that's for sure." TwilightBard states.

***GhostQlyph has been lynched.
GhostQlyph was the Kettle (Town Jack-of-all-Trades)

It is now Night 3.
Night actions are due within 36 hours from this post.
Day will break in no more than 48 hours.
Discussion in this topic may not continue until a new day dawns.
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TwilightBard: ...
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eyeball226: ...
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nmillar: ...
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andy433uk: ...
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Robbeasy: ...
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elbaz: ...
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ViolatorX: ...
The darkness is unsummoned as daylight appears, shining through the windows. The light is warm, this must be a good day?

You all gather in the usual spot, some happier than others. though the happiness soon disappear and you start eyeing one another. Who's the culprits, and who has gone missing in the night?

Who's missing is soon discovered, however, as you seem to be missing both TwilightBard and andy433uk. What the hell? Two kills again?

You start searching. Lodged into the side of one of the kitchen counters you find what seems to have once been an appliance. One of you attempt to tear it out, and you see it is andy433uk, completely crushed to smithereens.

You investigate him. Yup, he's dead with capital D, E, A and D.

andy433uk has been killed.

He was the Toaster (Serial Killer).

Wahay! One of those out to get you guys is dead. Perhaps he killed the lastb culprit in the night with him? That would be most grand.

You all begin to feel hope building up inside of you as you look for TwilightBard. He claimed Tumble Dryer? Maybe he can be found in some sort of laundry room?

You venture out of kitchen and into the laundry room at the opposite side of the hallway. Rightly enough, there he is, with six rather large kitchen knives lodged in his back, and his cord has been severed in a very clean manner.

TwilightBard has been killed.

He was the Tumble Dryer (Town Watcher)

It is now Day 4.

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch.

Deadline is 7th of June, 16:00 GMT+2.
It seems the appearance of a serial killer has disproved somebody's claim that there is an arsonist. That kind of backfired, didn't it ViolatorX?

@eyeball226 Who did you investigate last night?
Not really it shows that I was placed in the game to protect from a heat based electrical object

Plus If I was a killer of either given how you have distrusted me so much I would have been blocked anyway as from what you said yesterday which makes me believe further you are lieing

I'm at work and will post my thoughts later tonIght
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ViolatorX: Plus If I was a killer of either given how you have distrusted me so much I would have been blocked anyway as from what you said yesterday which makes me believe further you are lieing
I did originally intend to role block you last night, but I picked someone else so that I could prove that I am the Town Roleblocker. Just need to wait for Robbeasy to step forward and confirm it.

Note: I carried out my roleblock and the mafia still managed their night kill (andy433uk). Both actions would have been impossible if I was mafia.
This is... annoying, confusing and possibly enlightening. I decided to investigate Andy433uk (that's the annoying bit, since he got NK'd which doesn't help me prove anything). The confusing and enlightening bit is that according to my PM, he was Toaster (1-shot Bulletproof).

I don't know what to make of this... was he a bulletproof SK? I guess if SK counts as alignment then it would make sense that I'd only get info about his 'power'. This interesting though, if he really was bulletproof it might explain why there was no NK the other night. He might have been targeted and survived.
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ViolatorX: Plus If I was a killer of either given how you have distrusted me so much I would have been blocked anyway as from what you said yesterday which makes me believe further you are lieing
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nmillar: I did originally intend to role block you last night, but I picked someone else so that I could prove that I am the Town Roleblocker. Just need to wait for Robbeasy to step forward and confirm it.

Note: I carried out my roleblock and the mafia still managed their night kill (andy433uk). Both actions would have been impossible if I was mafia.
And what exactly would you like me to confirm nmillar?? That I was roleblocked?

That would be rather difficult - I see no reason now to keep this quiet, as we seem to be at the nibbly nub end of the game - I am a Vanilla Townie, and therefore have no power for you to block....unfortunately therefore I cannot confirm you as a Roleblocker.

I am specifically The Blender, Vanilla Town, which is spooky when you consider my avatar (which I've had since I joined the GOG community in 2008. I even had to query the MOD to see if he was taking the pee somewhat, but turns out it was random!!).

BUT - the very fact you are willing to come out and say you blocked me, then ask for confirmation, doesn't really clear you - you could easily be a Mafia blocker, you know..!
Both actions are easily possible if there are 4 mafia in this game, or some other killer role, although with an SK on the loose as well, it would seem to be a bit one sided....hhmmmmm....

On balance, with TwilightBard being confirmed watcher, i come back to what he said in post 543 - 'The first night I chose to watch Vitek...I saw Ghost approach, but I also saw ViolatorX approach him too'.

Vitek died, Ghost has been confirmed as Town, which leaves only one conclusion you would think - ViolatorX is Mafia.

The ONLY thing that stops me being 100% certain is Viteks role - bodyguard. It is conceivable that he visited someone himself (to guard them) and got killed - Twilight was a Watcher, not a Tracker, so wouldnt get that information. Throw in a SK on the loose as well, and it explains the double kill first night.

one shot bulletproof SK? So second night Mafia targeted Andy, he survived, but then didnt get off his SK? In that case, why the hell would they target him again last night?? They wouldnt be told he was a one shot bulletproof, they would just know the attempt failed, surely they wouldnt go for him again???

But our 'Roleblocker' blocked Ghost on the no-kill night. - confirmed by ghost, who then turned up Town!! So how come there were no kills that night?? The only thing that might explain that one away is if the Mafia or the SK didnt get their actions in in time. I cant think of any other explanation.

On balance, ViolatorX has to be the biggest suspect. Purely for the Vitek visit first night. I'm not even close to sure about the firefighter roleclaim either.

Sod it, I've convinced myself. Wasn't going to vote this early, but...

Vote ViolatorX
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Robbeasy: Snip.
Ah, damn, I deliberately picked you as you've been my biggest accuser. The biggest thing to come out of it though is I now know you're completely innocent, so in my eyes it's down to ViolatorX, eyeball226 or elbaz.

ViolatorX is the most obvious suspect as, like you said, he visited Vitek on the opening night. I suppose it's perfectly conceivable that his his role could have been to protect us from andy433uk - a toaster is an appliance that could start fires after all ...

elbaz - confirmed as Rodzaju's lynchee, but it's never been clear which side he's on. The fact that you've claimed a vanilla role, and I know you're telling the truth, makes it seem likely that elbaz is also vanilla.

eyeball226 - another 'convenient' investigation. Is he just unlucky or lying through his teeth? Actually, thinking about it, why target andy433uk when there are far more suspicious people still in the game (andy433uk had done nothing to raise suspicions of himself until he turned up SK). He could have used the opportunity to investigate me or ViolatorX, who have both been at the top of most people's suspect lists for quite some time.

Vote eyeball226.

There's an easy town win now. Vote one of the three above off today and I'll roleblock one of the other two tonight if we get it wrong. If I die, then the other person is mafia. If I don't die, then the person I blocked is mafia. If I target somebody who has already claimed a power role (eyeball226 or ViolatorX) then they'll be able to confirm they were unable to complete their night action.

So here's my plan; vote off eyeball226 today, block ViolatorX tonight and we have a town win.
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nmillar: eyeball226 - another 'convenient' investigation. Is he just unlucky or lying through his teeth? Actually, thinking about it, why target andy433uk when there are far more suspicious people still in the game (andy433uk had done nothing to raise suspicions of himself until he turned up SK). He could have used the opportunity to investigate me or ViolatorX, who have both been at the top of most people's suspect lists for quite some time.
I targeted Andy433uk simply because he hadn't claimed yet, I wanted something that would help clear the doubts about me. It was a coin toss between him and Robbeasy, the only people who hadn't claimed yet.
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nmillar: snippety.....


eyeball226 - another 'convenient' investigation. Is he just unlucky or lying through his teeth? Actually, thinking about it, why target andy433uk when there are far more suspicious people still in the game (andy433uk had done nothing to raise suspicions of himself until he turned up SK). He could have used the opportunity to investigate me or ViolatorX, who have both been at the top of most people's suspect lists for quite some time.

....snip
That actually is a very good point - why Eyeball, when you had the chance to investigate one the roleclaimers, thereby proving or disproving them and helping no end, did you choose to investigate someone who hadn't claimed at all??!!
And then he conveniently dies......

That actually stinks to high heaven, and I missed it. ViolatorX's visit to Vitek can be explained at a push, but I'm going to Unvote ViolatorX straightaway, and wait to see what you have to say for yourself Eyeball.