In my mind it was because Both Ghost and ViolatorX visited Vitek and people fully buying into ghost being a town aligned JoaT, which is not verified.

I mentioned it earlier but I feel that a Ghost lynch will allow us to pick the lies from the days posting better than any other.

I would have no hesitation casting the hammer vote on GhostQlyph, but I still find ViolatorX's claim that he was role blocked suspicious, and the flavour doesn't really fit with the flavour I have received for my two role blocks. GhostQlyph's is much more accurate.

I can't really argue with your stance Robb, and as such if you think I need lynched just get the numbers together. Town will be the majority afterwards, though that day will be LYLO. It'd be much preferable to find the real mafia, of course, but it's clear to me that if I get lynched then some people wanted to clear their minds on me, and it's best to step into that final stretch with a logical mind.

Gotta ask, why isn't anyone harping on Andy or Elbaz now? Let's grab a bit more information before we push a lynch. We already squeezed open three other people who have been reluctant to share with the class, why not go the home stretch and get Elbaz and Andy on the list too?

Unvote ViolatorX, vote Elbaz.

I'm going to give you a third option that seems more likely all of the sudden, and I believe you mentioned it before. I've held back on it because, quite honestly, I forgot it was there.

Vitek was, according to my investigation PM, watching over someone that night in a protective manner. It didn't reveal who, but he was protecting somebody.

That third option is neither me nor Violator killed him, though even I find such an idea suspect it's definitely possible.

It's possible he took a nightkill for somebody else.

Yes, it's a very poor save on my part, but I can provide you with no more information. You know everything that I know now, so if I do get lynched you have all the information I can offer to help get the real culprits and I'll know I have no more say in the matter of my lynching because I have nothing to give.

For the record I'm still fairly convinced of ViolatorX being Vitek's killer, especially given the flavor TwilightBard mentioned. The only reason I pulled my vote off of him is because I'm taking our watcher's tack right now, actually, and trying to gather information. We're close to having a significant statement today from every single player: an important milestone, and something that I have no doubt will direct who gets the noose.

A fair question, although I feel like I'm the one most in the dark concerning the truth, as all I have to go on is the thread and the lynch and night action scenes. Some thoughts:

It seems likely that both Ghost and ViolatorX did indeed visit Vitek, but what is less clear is, if Vitek was killed protecting someone, if Twilight (is he the only one confirming the Ghost and ViolatorX visits?) would have seen the person who actually killed him.

I have two streams of thought concerning suspicions. The first relates to nmillar, who I still think demonstrated scummy behavior early in the game with Red_Baron and whose claim may be in conflict with Ghost's.

To some degree I trust Ghost more because eyeball confirmed the JoaT role, but as many have mentioned eyeball has only confirmed what has already been claimed. Also, as others have noted, it is possible to have a scum JoaT. And, while I am not well-versed, some seem to think that it is unlikely that a real JoaT would have used all of their powers at this point.

The other stream of suspicion focuses on those who have remained somewhat quiet or have not mentioned their own actions, specifically andy and Robbeasy. To be clear, I'm not suggesting this right at this moment, but I wonder if there are any drawbacks to finishing off the list and having everyone claim. It might shake lose a bit more info.

So, as you can tell from this ramble, I really don't know at this moment who I find the most suspicious. I suppose I'm most interested in what andy or Robbeasy have to tell us about what they were up to last night.

I think people are assuming either one of us killed vitek as we visited him, yet the bodyguard role clearly states a bodyguard would die, die and reveal or kill the person that HAS targeted the person(person vitek was protecting) being attacked and we still dont know who that is.... I find the people that are jumping instantly to the conclusion we killed him as we visited him and not how the role ability is applied as suspect as they are completely ignoring the other side of the coin.

I do find it slightly suspicious andy assumed that the protectee would not know the protector, going by common RL theory that people hire bodybuards and know their identies.

I think one of the two remaining mafia we have is the roleblocker within nmillar, I just cant see us having a town roleblocker AND a jailer and with ghost claiming to be useless and eyeballs cop role not being insightful I see him as the current biggest threat to the town. Though at the same time it wouldnt surprise me if the setup was 7-4-1 and everybody DID have a power role.

Thats what confirms for me this theory that he is indeed mafia if he somehow flips town when lynched we would still according to the claims have a cop and a watcher and would both still look heavily suspect who are higher up on the list of suspects by seemingly everyone else.

Im pretty sure eyeball(if hes even telling the truth) would investigate me on the night anyway so my vote is staying as it is.

Hell at this point even elbaz looks suspect with his lack of ability

Well, we need to come to some sort of agreement somewhere along the line - we're all voting, but we're all following different theories and voting for different people.

For the record, I am voting for Ghost at the moment but would happily bring down the hammer on nmillar as well - I believe a lynch of either of these two will go a long way to clearing up the many and varied theories we have all come out with today.

Also - I'm not sure everyone claiming their role is a good idea at all? So far it's done nothing but muddy the waters and create nothing but suspicion and conflictions...

Where did everybody go??.....;o)

Not much else to contribute at the moment, really. I'm still convinced that either GhostQlyph or ViolatorX (who seems to be buckling under pressure at the moment) had something to do with Vitek's death, and will happily hammer either of them (though my vote is already on GhostQlyph at the moment).

To be honest, I think ViolatorX is the most suspicious, especially considering TwilightBard's information that he visited after GhostQlyph did. His claim to have been role blocked just doesn't sit well with me; I don't believe there are two role blockers. GhostQlyph has confirmed that she was role blocked, and eyeball226 confirmed that it was me who visited her.

I'd prefer to lynch ViolatorX. If he does flip town, then that would confirm there is a mafia role blocker in place, but GhostQlyph is the safer bet since she has already claimed to have used all her powers.

No, I confirmed that she was JoaT...

Sorry, I meant TwilightBard.

Not really buckling was just waiting to find out why I figured you were guilty then it occurred to me that in fact you could be our arsonist instead of a roleblocker your targeting of ghost would make perfect sense after the scenerio below.

You claimed an electrical cooker which would have a hob that is capable of emitting a flame that could melt cable

Day one you target red_baron like you claim and he dies from getting his cord burnt as opposed to being blocked like you say, after all you visited him and he died.

Day two - You target ghost and fail in your attempt, as a kettle she would contain water and as a jack of all trades she could have have a 1 shot bulletproof vest and have been protected by your attack.

The knock over the head she claimed could have just been the start of the attack and wouldn't have been able to conduct her own action and may not have known much about the attack(flavor wise) as was knocked over the head(which reads like more of an attack than a block anyway), I doubt it would have been revealed to her that she was attacked in the night and survived. The bulletproof token being used to keep her alive today.

I would be very surprised as a joat she had just 2 abilites and is conserving one to use later as I do find her claim to be powerless a little bit suspect.

That makes sense considering I was blocked AND Twilght confirmed you as being there, the first person you visited (red baron) is dead and that makes sense as to why ghost is alive after you visiting her.

GhostQlyph confirmed being role blocked.

Yes, this is what led me to believe I had something to do with Red_Baron's death, which I stated previously.

Red_Baron and GhostQlyph were both knocked over the head three times with my door.

I'm not 100% sure we should read too much into the flavour of the killings - like I said before, clues on who killed who due to flavour sort of defeats the object of the game.

The point I have quoted above is the very reason Ghost should be first up - the very reliable Mafia game maxim - LYNCH ALL LIARS.

At worst, Ghost flips town - but then we will know so much more about what is going on.
But like I said earlier, I would be happy to hammer nmillar if necessary.

There are so many permutations and possible interpretations of the killings so far that I for one feel its pointless going over the same ground. You can make a case for any one of the people that have claimed to be a liar. I'm just sticking with my earliest theory, before all this guff reared its head, with claim and counter-claim. A lynch of either Ghost or nmillar will give us all the information we need.

My vote on Ghost stands,