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Well, having seen the very convincing arguments against ViolatorX I'll prepared to vote for him as well. Since he's already at L-2 I'll wait until after he's claimed.
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nmillar: Agree completely. If ViolatorX flips town, then TwilightBard is getting a visit from the role blocker! :-)
Since he's now at L-2 I won't add my vote just yet. And after a quick reread with a focus on Violator's posts (since Enterprise really didn't say a whole hell of a lot.), I didn't really get anything...major from his posts. He sorta brushed the Rodzaju bandwagon away, jumped on Ghost's bandwagon at first and then drew attention to some of the stat talk that we had, but nothing in the way of actual scum hunting, at least to me.

It's very possible that we misread this, but we can only work with what we have and we don't know what Violator's role is. I can only give you guys the information I have available to me.
Im ViolatorX(water cooler) (town firefighter)
Ive given several hints throughout the game that there may be a 3rd party killer involved and I am put in place to protect someone from this person I obviously didnt want to say this outright as my cord can still be targeted.

I know there is an arsonist(opposite to my role) My role confirms this. I have several suspicions to who they could be. Baron was killed via his cord being melted being the major clue everyone seemed to overlook that there is someone assoiated with arson. I aimed to try and raise the issue without making myself look suspicious. Being a kitchen based game I believe we are looking for a object that emits either extreme heat (an iron) or naked flame(stove,gas fire hob even a toaster in theory) just like why people think elbaz is a killer as a trash compactor. eyeball is claiming to have the ability to guess this.

Im technically a doctor hence the rather soft claim that I am indeed one.

My actions
Day 1- Visited Vitek it didnt make a difference im guessing by GQ or I question the validity of Twilightbards statement(not that he is lieing at least more the vitek speculation) As a bodyguard would have been protecting the person that WAS visited so I dont believe that either of us can be ruled as being responsible and it begs the question why is the person he was protecting is STILL Hiding from this fact they were being protected.

Day -2 Visited Robbeasy and was roleblocked

Which leads to 4 things
1.Nmillar is lieing he is a roleblocker
2.Nmillar targeted me instead of ghost he claims
3.Something prohibited me from visiting him(maybe hes the arsonist in question)
4.Theres 2 roleblockers one presumably being mafia

@nmillar - Care to explain if you blocked GQ why I was also blocked last night other than my theory?

@eyeball Im very suspicious of your cop claim? I mean you have basically just quoted things we have already known and you have even said I havent made anything benificial of my ability which casts an FOS on you as any of us could have said what you have claimed so far.

I guess its my fault for saying doctor and arsonist that one of the mafia has put two and two together. Im sure of the 3 that have already voted for me are something I have touched upon.

It seems that nmillar and ghost are working together as they both seem to collectively change vote with one another from twilight till this relevation and have both jumped on me, Andy which I have mention seems to be lurking and jumping on the bandwagon.

@Twilight - What other factors can you think of why nmillar would visit GQ perhaps he was protecting her of may have done the block to smokescreen the fact she killed in night one?

It seems that everyone seems to have a power, maybe im wrong and there could be 2 mafia families, it has been done in games before. my stat talk was me trying to see who could potentally be the person Im trying to stop and who he would likely target. With some many people claiming roles its difficult who to trust at this point.

Nmillar seems to question anything I say and has jumped straight on the bandwagon for a second successive vote(along with ghost) With his slip that andy and rob have mention I am confident he is scum

Unvote GhostGqyph Vote Nmillar
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ViolatorX: @nmillar - Care to explain if you blocked GQ why I was also blocked last night other than my theory?
My role / movements have been verified by two different people (GhostQlyph and TwilightBard). There could in theory be another role blocker, but I find that highly unlikely. Your claim to be a "sort of" doctor role would suggest there isn't an actual doctor in the town, which leads me to believe that either GhostQlyph is mafia (the whole role block / nobody died thing) or you yourself are the elusive mafia member.

As for the theory about an arsonist, that would suggest the microwave (already dead), electric cooker (me), kettle (GhostQlyph) or toaster (unknown) would be the culprit. So who's the toaster?

And why did I target GhostQlyph? I first raised my suspicions of her in Day 1, and after my role block, all suspicions were cast on her from my point of view. eyeball226 and TwilightBard have both provided information that suggest that an alternative reason for no night kill took place, hence me "bandwagoning" in an effort to put pressure on people and garner more information.

Also, a few people have pointed out that townies should always tell the truth. You denied being a doctor in post 501, but now you're going back on that and saying, "actually, yes I am one."

My vote stands.
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ViolatorX: Snip, because the post is huge
Ummmmm, factors? I'm not sure. I visited Ghost thinking that if she was NK'd then suspicion would easily fall onto me since I was someone that she wanted to put pressure on during today. I figured if they were going to target her then I would be able to clearly see the killer.

Ghost and Violator, can you both give a paraphrase or at least give us an idea at the flavor of the roleblocks? I'm curious.

Nmillar was pretty quick to explain away Red Baron's death twice, I'm quite curious as to why now.

And last but not least, yeah, there's a lot of power roles running around, I'm wondering if it was just the setup, powered electrical appliances all having power roles, with the exception of the Lyncher who was our garbage can? In a game with a lot of power roles the most suspicious to me is the one claiming Vanilla.

Vote Elbaz for the time being, I find his claim rather strange.
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TwilightBard: The first night I chose to watch Vitek...I saw Ghost approach, but I also saw ViolatorX approach him too. I'm not certain why though.
This is the important bit. If TwilightBard is indeed the Town Watcher, then he would have seen whoever killed him. ViolatorX verifies this by admitting he did indeed visit Vitek on night 1. What does this mean? GhostQlyph or ViolatorX killed him.
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TwilightBard: The first night I chose to watch Vitek...I saw Ghost approach, but I also saw ViolatorX approach him too. I'm not certain why though.
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nmillar: This is the important bit. If TwilightBard is indeed the Town Watcher, then he would have seen whoever killed him. ViolatorX verifies this by admitting he did indeed visit Vitek on night 1. What does this mean? GhostQlyph or ViolatorX killed him.
Well, that depends, if he died to protect someone, then that person would have been visiting someone else. I'm gonna reread the flavor real fast, but I've been tossing that question in my mind that entire time. If Vitek really died protecting someone else, then who was the killer technically visiting? Vitek? Or the person that Vitek was protecting?
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ViolatorX: @nmillar - Care to explain if you blocked GQ why I was also blocked last night other than my theory?
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nmillar: My role / movements have been verified by two different people (GhostQlyph and TwilightBard). There could in theory be another role blocker, but I find that highly unlikely. Your claim to be a "sort of" doctor role would suggest there isn't an actual doctor in the town, which leads me to believe that either GhostQlyph is mafia (the whole role block / nobody died thing) or you yourself are the elusive mafia member.

As for the theory about an arsonist, that would suggest the microwave (already dead), electric cooker (me), kettle (GhostQlyph) or toaster (unknown) would be the culprit. So who's the toaster?

And why did I target GhostQlyph? I first raised my suspicions of her in Day 1, and after my role block, all suspicions were cast on her from my point of view. eyeball226 and TwilightBard have both provided information that suggest that an alternative reason for no night kill took place, hence me "bandwagoning" in an effort to put pressure on people and garner more information.

Also, a few people have pointed out that townies should always tell the truth. You denied being a doctor in post 501, but now you're going back on that and saying, "actually, yes I am one."

My vote stands.
I neither confirmed or denyed I was a doctor in post 501 I was responding to your claim that I was..

Technically Im not a doctor as I can only protect someone against one person so it isnt a lie more of a half truth.

I mentioned the fact we have already have a doctor/protector in a jailer powerful role, I can only save one person, with my role and with popinjays roles it seems less likely that we would also have a roleblocker.

In regards to your visitation of GQ if could have been anything hell you be the arsonist for all we know especially if GQ is mafia she could have immunity to the NK or the scenerio could flip either way, The goon could be visiting the godfather or you could have a different role entirely. I wouldnt come out and say I was roleblocked otherwise especially after you both have confirmed you targeted eachother and it was validated you visited her.


Your pinning of the mafia onto me makes no sense, I wasnt really suspected by anyone yesterday so why would I not kill somebody last night that would just be a huge waste of time and would make my task of winning the game that much harder especially if I had free passage to do so, according to everybodys action claims nobody targeted me for a block or otherwise and I wouldnt have looked suspicious if I did choose anyone so why would have wasted the one thing I could use to help me win for no reason?

The object list is all of the things I could think off that emit a naked flame or extreme heat hot enough to melt plastic cord not already mentioned. Thinking maybe the arsonist targeted the mafia godfather and failed and GQ accepted the claim that she was roleblocked to evade the fos being pointed, In regards to voting you both seem to adopt the keep your friends close, keep your enemies closer motto and vote for eachother till you realise you arnet getting a lynch and jump on the next person(TB and then me)


@twilight to summerise As I was making my way there I had to climb up a counter something slippery was coated at the top I slipped and I fall crashing down losing my water content I presume I was blocked by someone placing something at the top, oil maybe due to the theme.


A bodyguard direct from the wiki .A role that functions like a normal Doctor, but dies if the protected player is attacked. We wouldnt have heard anything about the struggle due to everyone being in their plug socket being a night action I feel we need to find out who was being protected by vitek and who would they likely be targeted by
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ViolatorX: A bodyguard direct from the wiki .A role that functions like a normal Doctor, but dies if the protected player is attacked. We wouldnt have heard anything about the struggle due to everyone being in their plug socket being a night action I feel we need to find out who was being protected by vitek and who would they likely be targeted by
And who killed Red_Baron?
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ViolatorX: @twilight to summerise As I was making my way there I had to climb up a counter something slippery was coated at the top I slipped and I fall crashing down losing my water content I presume I was blocked by someone placing something at the top, oil maybe due to the theme.
Hmmm interesting, It sounds like you where roleblocked but its not 100% obvious by that flavour to me any way,


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ViolatorX: A bodyguard direct from the wiki .A role that functions like a normal Doctor, but dies if the protected player is attacked. We wouldnt have heard anything about the struggle due to everyone being in their plug socket being a night action I feel we need to find out who was being protected by vitek and who would they likely be targeted by
I doubt the protected person knows if they where protected


I feel I've gone full circle with all these claims and i expect some people are lying, I also think there are two scum left. I believe now that Ghost's claim is central to finding out the truth as her verification or not will tell us lots about todays posts
So
unvote ViolatorX, Vote Ghost
I'm still relatively confident about Ghost, so to keep the pressure on: unvote Elbaz, vote ViolatorX.
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ViolatorX: A bodyguard direct from the wiki .A role that functions like a normal Doctor, but dies if the protected player is attacked. We wouldnt have heard anything about the struggle due to everyone being in their plug socket being a night action I feel we need to find out who was being protected by vitek and who would they likely be targeted by
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nmillar: And who killed Red_Baron?
If I had to take a guess, I would think our Arson did it.

Exactly who that is, I'm not sure. But the question remains, if Ghost and Violator were both role blocked, and we take their claims as true...what the hell happened to the night kills? I can't imagine that we'd STILL have a doctor at this point. Does the Arsonist only have kill abilities on odd numbered nights? I'm very confused by this all.

I'm sorry, something about this doesn't seem, right.
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ViolatorX: @eyeball Im very suspicious of your cop claim? I mean you have basically just quoted things we have already known and you have even said I havent made anything benificial of my ability which casts an FOS on you as any of us could have said what you have claimed so far.
I wanted to see if Ghost said anything that contradicted what I knew before revealing what I'd found out. As for Elbaz, are you sure it's something we knew? Did did Rodzaju know if Elbaz had a power role or did he just know he was the Trash Compactor?
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nmillar: And who killed Red_Baron?
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TwilightBard: If I had to take a guess, I would think our Arson did it.

Exactly who that is, I'm not sure. But the question remains, if Ghost and Violator were both role blocked, and we take their claims as true...what the hell happened to the night kills? I can't imagine that we'd STILL have a doctor at this point. Does the Arsonist only have kill abilities on odd numbered nights? I'm very confused by this all.

I'm sorry, something about this doesn't seem, right.
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nmillar: And who killed Red_Baron?
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TwilightBard: If I had to take a guess, I would think our Arson did it.

Exactly who that is, I'm not sure. But the question remains, if Ghost and Violator were both role blocked, and we take their claims as true...what the hell happened to the night kills? I can't imagine that we'd STILL have a doctor at this point. Does the Arsonist only have kill abilities on odd numbered nights? I'm very confused by this all.

I'm sorry, something about this doesn't seem, right.
Two kills going by flavor
Vitek - Smashed and squashed into a quarter of its size(big object mafia)

Red Baron - Cord melted into two (arsonist)

It definately indicates due to different methods there are 2 killers and obviously not of the same faction as one faction can only kill 1 person a night

Things I can think of:
Why arsonist failed
AR targeted someone who was immune to NK

What I think
AR targeted townie without electric cord(rodjazu was a bin afterall) so kill wouldnt happen Im guessing similar to the above I doubt he is the only cordless applience here

Looking at the wiki an arsonist does need to prime in some varients so may not be able to kill everyday

AR chose not to kill to hide instead

AR was roleblocked

@eyeball if that was aimed it me elbaz has long claimed he was the trash compactor in day one, he even claimed vanilla as his role post 425(day 2). You confirmed that he was in post 527(day 3) from your day 2 investigation and claim it wasnt useful(we already know afterall) and in 531 you admit you have made poor choices(either accidently or deliberately) is the main reason I have an fos on you
Sorry, I've been busy.

The flavor of my roleblock was just me getting knocked out from behind while stalking TwilightBard.