Rodzaju's confession doesn't make Elbaz not necessarily mafia. After all, Rod was to betray the mafia. Perhaps both in the sense that he'd become town if Elbaz was lynched but also because Elbaz is supposed to be his scum buddy? Something to think about tomorrow.

damn I feel like we missed a trick here (if rodzaju's statement is confirmed)

I guess the problem was i believed the 3rd party (not town or mafia) claim which left a lot of possible senarios, not all of which where good/useful going forward

I guess all will be revealed tomorrow morning. If Elbaz turns out to be mafia then we'll be in with a good chance with there only being one left.

Going back I find it likely then that it's Elbaz working with either TwilightBard or nmillar (which is extremely unlikely but I'll go for it) as our final culprit.

Nmillar is unlikely but possible, considering the refusal to lynch Rodzaju earlier on and now berating the town for not listening to them (not sure of nmillar's gender...) in hindsight alone, as well as the depth of experience nmillar has compared to most of us. The playstyle does fit with game 3, however, where nmillar was town... but I'm willing to consider the possibility. Still, the town playstyle and willingness to lynch Elbaz puts nmillar at the bottom of my list.

TwilightBard is an entirely different story. Adamant that Rodzaju is town, delaying a lynch whenever possible, the playstyle seems very scummy to me. I might be gung-ho but I'm giving reasons that fit with a logical cost/benefit analysis every time I mention lynching Rodzaju. TwilightBard also pushed the Popinjay lynchwagon long before it was even very sensible, leading us to the loss of our jailer, although I admit he was acting pretty scummy even prior to the mad rants.

On Day 3 I expect Elbaz would be our best lynch and no one seems to want to argue that. During Day 3 and Day 4 we should grill TwilightBard.

Ummmmmm, please show me the post were I was adamant that Rodzaju is town? I've never said that, never defended him as town. Hell I'll be honest I fully expected to go back the first day and LYNCH him. The first day I said we could investigate more since we had a safe lynch, and then popinjay went nuts on us.

My theories on Rodzaju were just that, theories that at the time reflected on what he had claimed. With his current claim, well, how the hell do we dispose of a trash can?

I was on Popinjay to try to put pressure on him to answer my questions as I thought he was acting scummy, I'm so sorry that our town jailer decided to act against our best interests and get himself lynched.

Oh well, what happened happened. Guess we'll just have to see what comes up on the lynch and who dies during the night. Hope we still have some protection.

The "Bash the bin" votecount
elbaz - 3 - Rodzaju, nmillar
GhostQlyph - 1 - ViolatorX
Rodzaju - 5 - GhostQlyph, eyeball226, Robbeasy, elbaz, andy433uk

A total of 9 votes.

It is now twilight, discussion may continue until the lynch scene is posted.

(Sorry guys, had a busy day)

The day seems to be shorter this time around, but maybe you're just engrossed in discussion, or your white ware god is on hiatus and you've all momentarily gone standby... Wait, do white ware have any faith?

Anyhow, you all quickly come to a mutual decision - Discussion! And finger pointing, and perhaps even poor argumentation! And so do people spread out their random ranting against the others. But the majority agrees, it is Rodzaju who is the worst at ad hominem argumentation. Partly because none can be used on him.

"You're scum! You're trash! You're mafia!" GhostQlyph yells.

"No, I CONTAIN trash, there's a difference! And I'm not mafia! I'm on my own!" Rodzaju responds

"On your own, eh? Let's kill you off then." eyeball226 says.

"Fine, I am mafia... But I want revenge! I wish to kill my partner-in-crime, elbaz! He stole my place!" Rodzaju exclaims

"Well then, let's just end you now then see to your so-called 'friend', you filth!" Robbeasy calls.

"Wait!" Rodzaju pleads as Robbeasy starts pounding on him, with GhostQlyph and eyeball226 joining in.

Rodzaju's chrome surface is slightly dented, and he attempts to escape. As he hops a bit away from his three would-be murderers, elbaz and andy433uk jump in front of him.

"Wanting me dead, eh?" elbaz says before he starts wailing on Rodzaju. As the pounding continues, Robbeasy, GhostQlyph, eyeball226 and andy433uk join in, completely crumbling the poor appliance.

As Rodzaju lies completely crushed before the five, they begin searching for a plug to unplug, but cannot find one.

"Can you find it?" GhostQlyph asks

"Huh, perhaps he was a non-electrical appliance." Robbeasy replies.

"Well, who was he?" nmillar asks interrogatively.

"He certainly wasn't white ware, perculiar, no?" andy433uk says.

***Rodzaju has been lynched.
Rodzaju was the Trash Can (Mafia Lyncher)

It is now Night 2.
Night actions are due within 36 hours from this post. (Trying for a faster night phase)
Day will break in no more than 48 hours.
Discussion in this topic may not continue until a new day dawns.

The dark is penetrated by a single ray of light, and you know the night has ended. Delighted in your sentience, you quickly remember the grim facts of the present. Someone is surely dead this night, and someone must die from this transgression.

You gather at your spot, and you eye one another curiously. Hoping for slips or tells, and also to learn who's gone.

You find no slips or tell from just looking, and perculiarly, you're all here. Odd.

It is now Day 3.

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline is 31st of May, 16:00 GMT+2.

Woah! Did the mafia miss the deadline or did they elect not to do a nightkill? I'm guessing the former because I can't see a tactical advantage for not killing anyone.

More likely the kill was blocked in some way. Looks like Vitek did indeed die protecting someone, and took Red_Baron with him??, as there's no third party kill either.

So, I guess we go ahead and Lynch Elbaz now?? I would strongly suggest NO we don't! Mafia win even if dead as well as Town, so Rodzaju's last post strikes me as a last ditch attempt to ensure his target dies at some point.

Now we know Rod was Mafia, I've been back through the last day and have a major suspect...

This one has consistently tried to back Rodzaju up, has desperately tried to turn attention towards Elbaz on a number of occasions, using any number of desperate reasoning.

First off, tries immediately to look at people targetting Rodzaju, early on Day2.
Then decides to try and help with Rodzaju's supposed Lynch target, using dodgy appliance danger type ...

Then I pointed out the fact that Vitek was a fourth of his size when discovered dead, trash Compactor. Didn't really believe Damnation would let flavour text of killings give clues as to murderers, rather defeats the point of the game. Did it to gauge reactions....

Elbaz makes a perfectly good vote on Rodzaju, and who jumps in to defend him? Yup...

Then, after encouraging Rodzaju to make a 'last confession' - uses that last confession to try and ensure we 'do the right thing' today..

Now, I know the 'traditional' Lyncher role is to have them on the same side, but its more than possible for it not to be. I dont trust Rodzaju's 'confession'. Couple that with nmillar continually defending Rodzaju - who has turned up Scum, remember, and I think we have our final Mafia member.

Vote nmillar

Very good point... although we lost our jailer. Totally agree, FoS very much on nmillar right now. I'm not going to vote just yet but I basically agree with your entire post.

I was originally going to respond to yours and Robbeasy's post with a predictable, "No, you've got it all wrong!" post, but the reasoning behind it actually makes perfect sense, and in anyone else's shoes I would also be my number one suspect.

The whole Rodzaju situation was an interesting one, and I admit I was drawn into his claim about being third-party. Obviously, this wasn't the case and after some long thinking have come to the conclusion that elbaz isn't mafia.

Oh, and vote GhostQlyph.

Hmmm, I was going to say your vendetta against GhostQlyph was pretty scummy as well... except it would be a really stupid thing to do if you were scum. Which means you're either town and genuinely believe GhostQlyph to be mafia, really stupid mafia (and I know you're not stupid) or mafia and it's a bluff of sorts.

The way I see it, these are the possible scenarios for a death free night:

1. A doctor protected the intended victim.

2. The mafia killer was role-blocked.

3. A bullet proof townie.

I first cast my finger of suspicion for trying to push a lynch on day 1 before the town had time to explore other avenues. Her target at that point was of course Rodzaju who turned out to be mafia, but I believe this was done in preparation for a situation such as the one we find in ourselves now. Targeting a fellow mafia member early on would clear you in the eyes of the vast majority of people, but I'm not falling for it. I've believed that GhostQlyph is scum from the beginning, and since it appears there is only one mafia member left alive, then I have only one possible target, hence my vote.