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Robbeasy: Viteks point - that Mafia would want Rodzaju dead if he's telling the truth and elbaz is Mafia. Would they really want Rodzaju dead? Then we find out Immediately if he was telling the truth, and the heat truly gets turned on Elbaz - what Vitek is arguing they're trying to avoid!
Well, we'd only know Elbaz is mafia if Rodzaju turns out to be mafia. We don't know anything more if Rod was telling the truth and was a lyncher.
I have no reason to protect Elbaz, but If I were going to lie about my role, would I not have said town?
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Rodzaju: I have no reason to protect Elbaz, but If I were going to lie about my role, would I not have said town?
Well no, not necessarily. You were dangerously close to getting lynched so you might have come out with the lyncher thing to buy some time. If you'd claimed Town then we would all have gone "suuuuuuuure... ¬_¬" and carried on lynching you. Just saying, I can see a reason for not saying town.
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Rodzaju: I have no reason to protect Elbaz, but If I were going to lie about my role, would I not have said town?
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eyeball226: Well no, not necessarily. You were dangerously close to getting lynched so you might have come out with the lyncher thing to buy some time. If you'd claimed Town then we would all have gone "suuuuuuuure... ¬_¬" and carried on lynching you. Just saying, I can see a reason for not saying town.
Fair point.
That was pretty much my response to Elbaz town claim.
However, in this case it was because it was simply "I'm town, now I'm going quiet"!
To me that doesn't sound like a genuine town claim but everyone else seems to have just accepted it.
Hey guys, I apolise for not catching up with this earlier. Gee, how things can change. I will not vpte at this time because I have no idea what is going on. But Rodzaju makes a self destructive claim.

Rodzaju reveals his role to everyone. From what I understand this makes him either:

1. A low priority for scum to lynch.

2. A towny with a death wish.

If I'm right, (and correct me if I'm wrong) if Rodzaju is speaking the truth then he falls out of the win conditions of townys all together. Unless he kills certain people off.

I'm sorry, I reconsider.

vote rodzaju

I call his bluff, be damned if I'm wrong.
L-1 again!
As predicted, rather than answering any of the questions about himself, Pop simply goes for my throat.
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Popinjay: Hey guys, I apolise for not catching up with this earlier. Gee, how things can change. I will not vpte at this time because I have no idea what is going on. But Rodzaju makes a self destructive claim.

Rodzaju reveals his role to everyone. From what I understand this makes him either:

1. A low priority for scum to lynch.

2. A towny with a death wish.

If I'm right, (and correct me if I'm wrong) if Rodzaju is speaking the truth then he falls out of the win conditions of townys all together. Unless he kills certain people off.

I'm sorry, I reconsider.
vote rodzaju
I call his bluff, be damned if I'm wrong.
Well interesting post.. and good to see you write something again, after so many commented that they believed you to be hiding to keep low, so there wasn't a reason for this late reply?

Anyway, I like how you initially writes that you don't want to vote because your unsure whats going on, then states some fairly odd reasons and then votes for Rodzaju.

The reason I am calling them odd is due to the simple fact that they don't take anything of what have been discussed into consideration.. It doesn't consider if elbaz could be scum, the fact that Rodzaju claimed that he will turn town if he lynches his target or the results of a lynch.

So based on the idea that if he is speaking the truth he is a good bet to kill therefor you decide to vote for him and then you end your post by saying: "I call his bluff"
So actually you don't believe him to be a lyncher? So your going with your option 2? As the option 1 you stated clearly took for granted that Rodzaju's claim is true.

And btw: Rodzaju have already stated who that one person he needs to lynch is (he never said anything about killing certain people off). And if he does lynch his target he have claimed to become town, hence being part of town win condition ;)

So I am not really impressed by your reasoning, although I agree its always good to see an attempt at it.

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Rodzaju: That was pretty much my response to Elbaz town claim.
However, in this case it was because it was simply "I'm town, now I'm going quiet"!
To me that doesn't sound like a genuine town claim but everyone else seems to have just accepted it.
Well I mentioned several times that we do not know if elbaz is indeed town or if you are indeed what you claim to be, so I am fairly sure not everyone is just accepting it, I believe that instead we are trying to get a clearer picture of the whole.

Still haven't really found a perfect answer what to do yet, although I am tempted to change my vote, I guess I'll have to wait until Popinjay returns.
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Rodzaju: As predicted, rather than answering any of the questions about himself, Pop simply goes for my throat.
Rodzaju, your predictions are irrelevant. You made this a him or me game. When your dead we will know what you truly are. If your not scum then I'm surely to follow.
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Rodzaju: As predicted, rather than answering any of the questions about himself, Pop simply goes for my throat.
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Popinjay: Rodzaju, your predictions are irrelevant. You made this a him or me game. When your dead we will know what you truly are. If your not scum then I'm surely to follow.
Apart from the Aussie thing (which was just a bit of RVS fun), I would like you to point out any part of my case against you as flimsy, unreasonable or logically false.

I'd also like to remind you of your post 66.
At a time when myvote was on Vitek, you tell everyone to lynch me.
So who made this personal?
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Popinjay: Rodzaju, your predictions are irrelevant. You made this a him or me game. When your dead we will know what you truly are. If your not scum then I'm surely to follow.
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Rodzaju: Apart from the Aussie thing (which was just a bit of RVS fun), I would like you to point out any part of my case against you as flimsy, unreasonable or logically false.

I'd also like to remind you of your post 66.
At a time when myvote was on Vitek, you tell everyone to lynch me.
So who made this personal?
Vote Rodzaju now and we will be one step closer to revealing those with evil intent. "

Your analysis of everything I said made this personal. YOU said your non town. I see no reason at all why you should remain. Do You?
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Rodzaju: Apart from the Aussie thing (which was just a bit of RVS fun), I would like you to point out any part of my case against you as flimsy, unreasonable or logically false.

I'd also like to remind you of your post 66.
At a time when myvote was on Vitek, you tell everyone to lynch me.
So who made this personal?
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Popinjay: Vote Rodzaju now and we will be one step closer to revealing those with evil intent. "

Your analysis of everything I said made this personal. YOU said your non town. I see no reason at all why you should remain. Do You?
If you haven't noticed, analysis of what people say is what we do here!
Okay, I figure it's time for my update views on everyone's alignment.

1. Red_Baron - town. Taking the sensible approach by questioning as many people as possible.
2. andy433uk - unknown. Posts are very few and far between and hasn't yet provided any clear opinions of his own.
3. Rodzaju - third party. This has been pretty much confirmed.
4. TwilightBard - town. Again, taking the sensible approach by questioning as many people as possible.
5. elbaz - town. If Rodzaju's claim holds true, then elbaz must be town, unless a unique approach to the lyncher / lynchee setup is in place.
6. Popinjay - mafia. Disregards questioning from others and continues to pick on the easy target.
7. Robbeasy - leaning town. Only recently replaced pazzer and hasn't revealed any strong opinions of his own yet. However, he is one of the few who has voted for Rodzaju with logical reasoning.
8. eyeball226 - leaning mafia. Jumped on the Rodzaju bandwagon very early and tried to push for a quick lynch, but backed down when questioned others.
9. GhostQlyph - mafia. Wants a quick lynch. Far too pushy.
10. enterprise2004 - leaning town. Has remained fairly anonymous throughout, but when he does speak up is prepared to question other people's actions.
11. Vitek - leaning town. Has thrown out a few strange accusations, but is quite prepared to wait for more information to be made available.

So, based on that, my main mafia suspects are Popinjay and GhostQlyph, but I'm also fairly suspicious of eyeball226.
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Popinjay: Snip...
Your analysis of everything I said made this personal.
But my analysis was AFTER you told everyone to lynch me!
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nmillar: random bullshit
nmiller, if you want you can list the questions I'm ignoring. Because when I had an oppertunity to check last there was 4 pages with my name on it. I would be happy to address them for you for the sake of the town. The time difference does affect me somewhat.

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mafia regurgitation
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Rodzaju, you are non town. Your continuation in this game helps noone.