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trentonlf: Since we are asking about words we don't know what they mean, what is lulz?
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=lulz
I went back over the thread from when Books posted I am a train. To see if I could find anything that stood out about Rob and books. Maybe something books said after the train comment that would hurt his scum-buddies. I did not find anything that jumped out at me that would make a fellow scum vote for their on so early on before the wagon even really started to roll.

I did find.

post 140 -books --
Pfft, shows what you know, I'm clearly a train. Thomas the Tank Engine to be exact.

I can see where you are coming from with HijacK's behaviour, trent's different play style was one of the big clues I had last game that he was scum, but I'm not sure that the same can be said of HijacK, he's just a bit too unpredictable.

--- Books is clear about trents play style was a dead give away but very easily dismissing Hijack. (yet Hijack played the last 2 games the same as town and this game he is playing completely different) Why is it so easy to dismiss one and but not the other?

Mrk bringing up words and phrases not feeling right. I have never liked this. Not sure about everyone else but I am piloting a ship..

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Vitek: Also, I am spaceship.
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Sage103082: Not sure about everyone else but I am piloting a ship..
Does your spaceship has any name? Because mine does. ;-) (I am not talking about class)
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Sage103082: Not sure about everyone else but I am piloting a ship..
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Vitek: Does your spaceship has any name? Because mine does. ;-) (I am not talking about class)
lol sorry I just checked my pm after reading this yes. I am piloting the Sage. =)
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mrkgnao: I must say, though, that I find your assumption that Robbeasy knew that adaliabooks was a strongman interesting. In game #23 (correct if I'm wrong, trentonlf), the scum learned about each others' roles only when they talked during night #1, so during day #1 they didn't know each other's roles (or even if they had any). See here (http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/4EBaPfDv6umcS), where trentonlf begins night #1 of game #23 with telling others about his role.
Apologies, you are absolutely right, I forgot they didn't have that info. I can't think of a game where mafia knew each other's role beforehand, so your theory does seem more plausible now.
OK, Vitek posted an example where they could have that info, but I don't think it's the norm.

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Vitek: So if you want to know who is scum from me or some other useless knowledge, ask today.
Do we have to ask nicely?
Please tell us who the scum are. Pretty please. :D
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Vitek: I am not too happy with dedo and his dissection that actually meant nothing (I was not just being jerk, I meant something by it and wanted to show how useless thing it was), how it seems he dropped trent even though he said last Day that he would vote him if he wasn't voting adalia and how he mentions I am one of his suspects from last day when he hasn't mentioned me once last Day.
You did read my entire post on the mafia vs town players in flub's list, right? Because what you're talking about is totally taking things out of context. No wonder it means nothing. I'll repeat once again what my point was to make sure we are on the same page.

My aim wasn't to point out that statistically 2 out of 5 people are bound to be Town if we assume we have 3 mafiosos (thank you, CSPVG, for that word - I love it!). I was simply doing the math so I can follow up with a probable scenario why flub got hit. One of the 3 probable mafia people on his list actually flipped mafia. What if another one was mafia? What if both of the other two were mafia? Someone noted that flub was hit because he is a experienced player. If you were scum would you leave a formidable(was he?!), experienced player as flub if you knew he managed to list the entire scum roster using D1 information? This was what my post was about, not counting players.


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Vitek: @dedo; What is PGO? Pre-post edit: I found it earlier in this thread. It's not really common acronym. I still don't know what you consider "PGO thing" you mentioned.
Paranoind gun owner. I wasn't aware of the role prior to adaliabooks linking to it. I'm giving you the same link he posted and I would like to point your attention to the second sentence.

I'll paste it here as well, for convinience:

Paranoid Gun Owner is very commonly abbreviated as PGO.


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Vitek: Also, why have you dropped trenton out of sudden?
Why would you say that? I have stated numerous times I don't trust trentonlf. Right now you, Vitek, and him are the two people I'm most suspicious of. I stated so in #707 if you are going to accuse me I'm making things up after you asked.

I'm withholding from placing a vote on one of you because I still haven't decided which one looks and feels scummier. As a matter of fact trentonlf was top of the list but the night episode got me wandering for possible scenarios. Once more, as I said in #707, I don't see the night attack as proof for alignment. Even if everything he said described actually happened he still may be scum.

Last game we had similar situation - Trent was scum, Sage was doctor and she protected him during N1 just because.


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mrkgnao: I must say, though, that I find your assumption that Robbeasy knew that adaliabooks was a strongman interesting.
I haven't thought of that. As a matter of fact I wasn't aware mafia don't know who is what until N1. Good catch. Adaliabooks bussing looks that much more plausible now.
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DarkoD13: Apologies, you are absolutely right, I forgot they didn't have that info. I can't think of a game where mafia knew each other's role beforehand, so your theory does seem more plausible now.
Games I can confirme they had that knowledge: Game 1, 3, 4, 5, 6(kinda), 7, 8, 9, 10 (had daychat so could share anytime), 12, 13, 15, 16, 17, 21? (there were racial roles, not individual ones so not really valid), 22 (werewolves had no special roles and everyone knew it)
They didn't: 14, 18 (it is Telika's game so it is much more important here than others), 19, 20 (there was only 1 scum), 24
Can't confirm: Game 2, 11 (I could but would have to search outside game thread)

So it is quite possible they didn't know thanks to this being Telika's game but it not unusual that this info is shared at the start of game.
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dedoporno: You did read my entire post on the mafia vs town players in flub's list, right? Because what you're talking about is totally taking things out of context. No wonder it means nothing. I'll repeat once again what my point was to make sure we are on the same page.

My aim wasn't to point out that statistically 2 out of 5 people are bound to be Town if we assume we have 3 mafiosos (thank you, CSPVG, for that word - I love it!). I was simply doing the math so I can follow up with a probable scenario why flub got hit. One of the 3 probable mafia people on his list actually flipped mafia. What if another one was mafia? What if both of the other two were mafia? Someone noted that flub was hit because he is a experienced player. If you were scum would you leave a formidable(was he?!), experienced player as flub if you knew he managed to list the entire scum roster using D1 information? This was what my post was about, not counting players.
" What I meant was that at least 2 of the 5 should be townies. This means no more than 3 of them can be mafia. Adaliabooks flipped mafia. This means no more than 2 of the remaining people on the list may be Mafia. "

"No more than 2 of the remaining people on the list may be mafia" That's stating of obvious and what I was calling out because it was needless filler.
And you are making much bigger fuss about it than it deserves.

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dedoporno: Paranoid Gun Owner is very commonly abbreviated as PGO.
As I said in that quote, I found it earlier in this thread. It may be common abbreviation on mafiascum.net but the role never appeared here so don't blame me. :-)
What I wanted to know more is what is "PGO thing" that Rob had nothing to do with.

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dedoporno: Why would you say that? I have stated numerous times I don't trust trentonlf.
Then show me numerous examples of you going after trenton on D2 and show me example of mentioning me on D1. That's what I was saying, not the thing you answered.
Before placing that vote of yours, could you finaly dig out your evidence against me you mentioned earlier or will it be "yeah, there is something".
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trentonlf: Krypsyn as neutral to scum. I would have had him as leaning town except for a comment he made during his post 469. When he was commenting about Sage he said "I'm sorry Sage, I am not sure what it says about you (or me), but we seem to analyze things very similarly. ... Maybe Krypsyn compares his playstyle to someone else's every game, and if that's the case I apologize.
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Krypsyn: Or, I just like the way she scum-hunts. She tends to notice many of the same things I do, and the way she processes data is very similar to my own. We may reach different conclusions, but I often find myself nodding along with her analysis posts as I usually like her reasoning.
I appreciate the response, but why did you cut out the part of the quote that made it clear why I had you leaning scum? The only reason this stands out to me is because in game #22 he said the exact same thing to me when I gave an analysis on Hijack that got Hijack lynched, and Krypsyn was scum that game.
I almost did very foolish thing. I posted without checking the time gap and luckily it was exactly 10 minutes. Would it be only several seconds sooner, it would have merged.

Phew.
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Vitek: I almost did very foolish thing. I posted without checking the time gap and luckily it was exactly 10 minutes. Would it be only several seconds sooner, it would have merged.

Phew.
Would that have gotten you killed? or just reprimanded?
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trentonlf: Would that have gotten you killed? or just reprimanded?
It would depend on Telika. I would have chance because it was first time overall in this game but on the other side, mods are mostly lenient toward newer player and I am experienced enough to not do it. So who knows? Luckily it doesn't matter.

Also, I am eager for Krypsyn's response to selective quoting accusation.
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Sage103082: --- Books is clear about trents play style was a dead give away but very easily dismissing Hijack. (yet Hijack played the last 2 games the same as town and this game he is playing completely different) Why is it so easy to dismiss one and but not the other?
If you'll do a re-read, you'll see that in another post, before the wagon started rolling like thunder, he said that he is sure that me and yog are scum. That post contradicts the one you read.
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trentonlf: Would that have gotten you killed? or just reprimanded?
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Vitek: It would depend on Telika. I would have chance because it was first time overall in this game but on the other side, mods are mostly lenient toward newer player and I am experienced enough to not do it. So who knows? Luckily it doesn't matter.

Also, I am eager for Krypsyn's response to selective quoting accusation.
I was just curious as I always see "don't edit your posts" and understand why, just never seen what happens when do other than werewolf game. Hijack did double post quite a few times early on in werewolf game but was only told not to do it again or dire things would happen,