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dedoporno: Why would trentonlf hint a role after he claimed vanilla and is sticking to it? If this is what it's really happening, such move will be more confusing than helpful.

+1 for for leaving it for later and re-visiting adaliasbooks' activities.

EU > UK. There are other nationalities here, as well :P
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Robbeasy: Many apologies dedo..;)

And Darko, and Hijack,
All good. I gotta say, I was called insane and incredible many times, but never UK. There's always a first, I guess. Just a question: DO I LOOK LIKE I HAVE 5 O'CLOCK TEA ON A DAILY BASIS? O_O
I have no role. I have not hinted at a role at any point.

I posted about the message I received as I found it odd. I did not come out pushing the message saying we need to concentrate on it, I just wanted to see what others thought.

I still would like others opinion on why they think Flub was the target (and I apologize for saying flub was a she, last game he hinted numerous times that he was a woman). Was flub targeted to keep him quiet about something he hinted at? Was flub targeted to frame someone?
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trentonlf: I have no role. I have not hinted at a role at any point.

I posted about the message I received as I found it odd. I did not come out pushing the message saying we need to concentrate on it, I just wanted to see what others thought.

I still would like others opinion on why they think Flub was the target (and I apologize for saying flub was a she, last game he hinted numerous times that he was a woman). Was flub targeted to keep him quiet about something he hinted at? Was flub targeted to frame someone?
No way to answer that without tons of WIFOM since he was one of the few people that gave reads on everyone. The simplest explanation would be that they thought he was bluffing about the vanilla thing.
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trentonlf: I have no role. I have not hinted at a role at any point.

I posted about the message I received as I found it odd. I did not come out pushing the message saying we need to concentrate on it, I just wanted to see what others thought.
Let's clear this confusion already, shall we? Are you vanilla or not? Everyone has a role, whether it is vanilla or power role.
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trentonlf: I have no role. I have not hinted at a role at any point.

I posted about the message I received as I found it odd. I did not come out pushing the message saying we need to concentrate on it, I just wanted to see what others thought.

I still would like others opinion on why they think Flub was the target (and I apologize for saying flub was a she, last game he hinted numerous times that he was a woman). Was flub targeted to keep him quiet about something he hinted at? Was flub targeted to frame someone?
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DarkoD13: No way to answer that without tons of WIFOM since he was one of the few people that gave reads on everyone. The simplest explanation would be that they thought he was bluffing about the vanilla thing.
That thought occurred me also, that maybe he was the safest bet. I also thought maybe I had missed something he said that made him the target so was wondering what others thought.
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trentonlf: That thought occurred me also, that maybe he was the safest bet. I also thought maybe I had missed something he said that made him the target so was wondering what others thought.
Why would he be the safest bet?
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trentonlf: That thought occurred me also, that maybe he was the safest bet. I also thought maybe I had missed something he said that made him the target so was wondering what others thought.
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dedoporno: Why would he be the safest bet?
Because he was considered town by most and killing someone considered town by most is safer than killing someone that is still unknown.

@Hijack Yes I am vanilla. No role=Vanilla, to me if someone says they have a role it means they are a maybe Doctor, a cop, etc.
Adaliabooks bandwagon:
Vitek votes (RVS)
Vitek unvotes (RVS)
Robbeasy votes (train comment)
Robbeasy unvotes (after adalia explains)
Robbeasy votes (after adalia commenting on a yogsloth post)
mrkgnao votes (calls adalia's posting inconsistent)
yogsloth votes (general scumminess)
trentonlf votes ("unsure what to post and how to act")
Krypsyn votes (train comment, retractions)
dedoporno votes ("I was planning to place my vote on adaliabooks when I get up this morning, but seeing he's 2 votes away from being lynched made me hesitate a bit. Interesting discussions were formed, so I wonder if more time would have been beneficial, but I guess we need to move this forward")
trentonlf unvotes (" I would like to hear from others on adaliabooks before we hammer anything. ")
flub votes
dedoporno unvotes ("Damn. I was so sure he had to go, because it's the safest option, but could we actually have a beneficial angle here? ")
dedoporno votes
CSPVG hammers ("Adalia's claim seems suspect, especially with the link to a mafiascum page. It seems as if book's was trawling through the wiki and came across something semi-credible to claim. ")


Not voting at the end: HijacK, Vitek, Trentolf, Sage103082 and DarkoD13
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trentonlf: Because he was considered town by most
Really? Was I the only one still not convinced? Damn, I need to pick up my game then.
Another reason could be flub's views on everyone. Could it be that he guessed correctly on more than one scum in there?



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DarkoD13: ~Wagon resume ~
I actually counted a 3rd vote for adaliabooks from Robbeasy without seeing an unvote in between, but I may be mistaken. Will look for it.

To me it would be interesting to know why the people who withheld from voting adaliabooks did so.
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dedoporno: To me it would be interesting to know why the people who withheld from voting adaliabooks did so.
I know me and Darko were wanting to hear from others before we hammered the vote.
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dedoporno: Really? Was I the only one still not convinced? Damn, I need to pick up my game then.
Another reason could be flub's views on everyone. Could it be that he guessed correctly on more than one scum in there?
Do you believe there's a way you can use a dead vanilla townie's Day 1 reads to the town's benefit and how would you go about that?


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dedoporno: I actually counted a 3rd vote for adaliabooks from Robbeasy without seeing an unvote in between, but I may be mistaken. Will look for it.
3rd vote?

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dedoporno: To me it would be interesting to know why the people who withheld from voting adaliabooks did so.
As explained during the day of the lynch, I wanted to hear from everyone before the lynch went through, especially from Vitek and CSPVG. I didn't feel the need to vote just so that my name is on the bandwagon list.
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DarkoD13: Do you believe there's a way you can use a dead vanilla townie's Day 1 reads to the town's benefit and how would you go about that?
Consider the following (I'm not convinced this is what happened, but I believe we shouldn't ignore it at all costs):

flub listed 5 suspects at the time of his posts and he didn't seem to wander off afterwards

Vitek – leaning scum due to coy posts and deliberate lurking; also unwilling to engage all players.
Trentonlf –null to scum due to recent alarmist posting and Vanilla Ice support
Adaliabooks-null to scum due to a lack of real engagement of other players and what seems to be a bit of unease when challenged
Krypsyn- leaning scum due to “just observing things from here” and a deliberate lurking
DarkoD13-leaning scum due to lack of engaging players and lurking

It's most likely at least two of these are Town. That leaves 3 probable Mafia players. One of them was confirmed Mafia.
What if another one was on that same list? Or even two?!


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DarkoD13: 3rd vote?
Disregards that. I miscounted a "my vote remains for adaliabooks" statement as a second vote. I also saw where Robbeasy unvoted.
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dedoporno: It's most likely at least two of these are Town. That leaves 3 probable Mafia players. One of them was confirmed Mafia.
What if another one was on that same list? Or even two?!
OK. So,
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DarkoD13: Do you believe there's a way you can use a dead vanilla townie's Day 1 reads to the town's benefit and how would you go about that?
Start lynching based on flub's list?
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DarkoD13: OK. So,
Start lynching based on flub's list?
I haven't had this, I shared an opinion on why he may have been the target of the NK. And, by the way I don't fully agree with his scum list.
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dedoporno: I haven't had this, I shared an opinion on why he may have been the target of the NK. And, by the way I don't fully agree with his scum list.
Have you ever played as scum?