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adaliabooks: yogsloth - for trying to push us out of RVS, perhaps to make us vote foolishly and lynch a townie?
HijacK - because his sudden change of play style is somewhat suspicious
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HijacK: I am fining your accusations outrageous and foolish.

First - it's day 1 and you're hanging on straws.
Second - your reasons have little logic, especially in yogloth's case. Lynch a townie? Really? I see it more as information hunt and I believe that should have been logical.
Third - are you implying I'm stupid? Get out. Now.
Hey, CSPVG suggested a list, I'm just providing.

Right now, you and yogsloth are the only two who are standing out, for good or bad.

As it's day 1, straws are all we have to go on. I'm trying to make the best of the information available and see what happens.

I don't see that my logic is that flawed, yogsloths post could easily be an attempt to hurry us along and to start placing votes, presumably without fully thinking them through. I'm not saying that I believe this is the case, just that it's a possibility.

All I'm implying is that you are the only other player who has of yet really drawn my attention. Whether your new 'persona' is an attempt to prolong your life or whether it's just a genuine change to the way you play I don't know, but it bears scrutinizing.
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HijacK: There are many ways to play as scum and given the chance to be one I would've played the exact same way in such a manner to get lynched but have the other scum on my vote wagon to gain them credibility.
How would you "have the other scum on my vote wagon to gain them credibility"?
It's day #1 and under the assumption that game #22 was the exception, scum can probably only talk at night.
So you would have been unable coordinate that with them and would have had to depend on their own intelligence (which I don't think is your style).
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adaliabooks: Hey, CSPVG suggested a list, I'm just providing.
Yes, because acting without thinking of one's intentions will surely lead the town to victory.

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adaliabooks: Right now, you and yogsloth are the only two who are standing out, for good or bad.
Then be my guest and do the same mistakes as before.

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adaliabooks: As it's day 1, straws are all we have to go on. I'm trying to make the best of the information available and see what happens.
And when were you ever successful with this type of "information"?

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adaliabooks: I don't see that my logic is that flawed, yogsloths post could easily be an attempt to hurry us along and to start placing votes, presumably without fully thinking them through. I'm not saying that I believe this is the case, just that it's a possibility.
Fully thinking? Here you are hanging on straws and you accuse him making us not think? Funny.

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adaliabooks: All I'm implying is that you are the only other player who has of yet really drawn my attention. Whether your new 'persona' is an attempt to prolong your life or whether it's just a genuine change to the way you play I don't know, but it bears scrutinizing.
I take on personas tot est people. But that is besides the point. Never mind them. Keep it like that. I like attention. Gives me more accurate data.
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mrkgnao: Suppose he were scum and suppose he were not stupid, what would you want him to do? Play as he did in the last two games? We all know he likely wouldn't have survived a day. .
If I were him I would have kept the exact same tone, but that's me :)
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HijacK: There are many ways to play as scum and given the chance to be one I would've played the exact same way in such a manner to get lynched but have the other scum on my vote wagon to gain them credibility.
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mrkgnao: How would you "have the other scum on my vote wagon to gain them credibility"?
It's day #1 and under the assumption that game #22 was the exception, scum can probably only talk at night.
So you would have been unable coordinate that with them and would have had to depend on their own intelligence (which I don't think is your style).
Breadcrumbing. Flub uses it all the time and almost every time he seems to get some results. It would be a gamble, but it would be a lot better than changing playstyles, especially since people like adalia love to pay attention to me.
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HijacK: Yes, because acting without thinking of one's intentions will surely lead the town to victory.

Then be my guest and do the same mistakes as before.

And when were you ever successful with this type of "information"?

Fully thinking? Here you are hanging on straws and you accuse him making us not think? Funny.

I take on personas tot est people. But that is besides the point. Never mind them. Keep it like that. I like attention. Gives me more accurate data.
Ah. That's more like the HijacK we know.

Now who's calling who stupid?
I didn't blindly follow CSPVG's suggestion without thinking, I considered it and decided what the best course of action might be, which happened to be to make a list and see what reaction it gets. And look, a bite.

So now I'm just observing what happens and forming my opinions, and letting others do the same.
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adaliabooks: And look, a bite.
What I did bite is your flawed reasoning. But don't mind that. I just took a good chunk of it out. As for the HijacK you know, please! You amuse me. You literally just implied you're not stupid, yet you take a pose that you even remotely know me.
Tell me, you know the Cretan paradox?
Guh, I just spent whole hour on phone with my mom...

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dedoporno: Off-topic: Does anyone else have problems with Barefoot Essentials's hotkey combos? I'm forced to write the format tags manually when I quick-respond, since the combinations don't seem to work (chrome).
I am using Firefox and it works just fine.

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Krypsyn: Amusing.
Disappointing. I was hoping you will note it again. How it is too defensive or something as per usual when you talk to me.
You are losing your mojo. :--p
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adaliabooks: And look, a bite.
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HijacK: What I did bite is your flawed reasoning. But don't mind that. I just took a good chunk of it out. As for the HijacK you know, please! You amuse me. You literally just implied you're not stupid, yet you take a pose that you even remotely know me.
Tell me, you know the Cretan paradox?
It doesn't really matter if my reasoning is flawed, everyone's reasoning is at the moment because we have nothing to go on and are extrapolating information from the tiniest comments made by other players. The possibility I've suggested is entirely possible, despite what you seem to think. I'm just trying to excite reactions and see what I gain from them.

I know that whatever façade you were trying to present seems to have slipped and you've returned to playing more like you did the last two games. Ironically, that makes me less suspicious of you.
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flubbucket: So HijacK you think Sage's braless assessment was not supported with facts?
Lacked in facts, contained too much speculation to be worth while.

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flubbucket: Do you think she's simply stuffing the thread with tissue thin posts in order to look town/look involved?
Some of her posts looked like that in the past.

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flubbucket: Or is this kind of padding the norm for Day One??
I thought people learn from mistakes. Hmmmm, maybe they haven't done them enough.

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flubbucket: ( . Y . ) <------------------------ I don't know what that is.
Looks like boobs to me. But......... I like boobs...... so I could potentially see them on every round object.

Needless to say I don't think people should look at her post. People have rough days, and she just may have had one of those. It's understandable, if genuine. But I am giving more credit to women in this regard because they have that one time a month when they turn from succubi into meaner demons.
I'm beginning to get scum vibes from adaliabooks. Nothing conclusive, but I have my suspicions:
- his off-hand mention of the unlikely possibility of 4 scum.
- yesterday his list was yogsloth and Vitek, then when confronted about his "defensive Vitek" comment, he quickly recanted. Now his list is yogsloth and HijacK.
- his comments on HijacK and Vitek on post #186 are merely repeating my posts #130 and #166.
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CSPVG: One has not commented in two days because one has not really felt the need to, and did not want to post something akin to, "Hello, I'm still here."

I have little to add to any of the current discussions, the most pressing of which seems to be the possibility that HijacK may be posting in a tone so far perceived as less bullish. There is, of course, the possibility that he may be hiding behind a veneer of civility to survive as a scum player; or there may also be the chance that he has simply decided to act in what is perceived as a more civil manner for the time being, and that the somewhat harsher HijacK may present himself later.

Having said this, I don't really know what line of inquiry to take. While it seems to have been decided by the group that we are somehow out of RVS, nothing has really recommended itself that would usually indict this change. No one has made a silly slip, or voted for an already fast moving wagon, or some such incident.

One is also baffled by the fact that you all did not answer flubbucket's question about the possibility of me being scum. While it was posed in a somewhat joking manner, I thought it would have received at least some sort of response.

Perhaps now would be a good time to draw up a top three scummiest list. Thoughts on this, my fellow scum hunter?

One would place trentonlf on the top of such a list, purely for writing the sentence, "If it was a true rap battle Vanilla Ice would win as he was a rap artist in his younger years and was actually decent." Actually decent? You, sir, need to reassess much of your life if you hold such opinions *makes the sign of the cross*.
What can I say, I like the song ice ice baby, and thinking of Shatner rapping makes me laugh as it would not be very good.

I keep seeing people referring to me playing like game #23 and not game #22 and I'm not sure where this is coming from as there has not been enough time to determine how any one is truly playing. The truth is I am town, nothing special about me but that. I want to find the scum and win. This time I don't want the scum to Snatch victory from me like they did in game #22.

Making a list now would be tough as non one really stands out at the moment. I am seeing the same pattern as previous games though. Experienced players post less and when they do it usually a thought out post (except flub as he is always out there somewhere in left field), and the newer players enjoy the talking and posting to find information. Just find it interesting.
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HijacK: What I did bite is your flawed reasoning. But don't mind that. I just took a good chunk of it out. As for the HijacK you know, please! You amuse me. You literally just implied you're not stupid, yet you take a pose that you even remotely know me.
Tell me, you know the Cretan paradox?
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adaliabooks: It doesn't really matter if my reasoning is flawed, everyone's reasoning is at the moment because we have nothing to go on and are extrapolating information from the tiniest comments made by other players. The possibility I've suggested is entirely possible, despite what you seem to think. I'm just trying to excite reactions and see what I gain from them.

I know that whatever façade you were trying to present seems to have slipped and you've returned to playing more like you did the last two games. Ironically, that makes me less suspicious of you.
Now I just lost interest in you. You know why? Because you're clueless. You say I returned to last game's playstye because I engaged in an argument? Isn't that a bit defensive and accusatory? And I beg your pardon, but if I returned to the same playstyle as before, why are my speech patterns still different? I think you have no idea what you're talking about. You mistake an argument for playstyle. Or were you expecting me to swallow you accusations? Interesting.
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mrkgnao: I'm beginning to get scum vibes from adaliabooks. Nothing conclusive, but I have my suspicions:
- his off-hand mention of the unlikely possibility of 4 scum.
- yesterday his list was yogsloth and Vitek, then when confronted about his "defensive Vitek" comment, he quickly recanted. Now his list is yogsloth and HijacK.
- his comments on HijacK and Vitek on post #186 are merely repeating my posts #130 and #166.
The possibility of 4 scum was purely working the numbers. JMich said last game it was usually 25% of total players, which is 13, so 4.25. But the mafiascum wiki kind of suggests it's rare to get more than 3, hence why I said 3 or 4.

I didn't really recant about Vitek, I just found his play style stood out and choose to describe it (probably badly) as defensive. But looking back at the possible hint dropping that you pointed out made me rethink my position on him a little, so he's dropped down my list.

You've got me there, although it was unintentional, I was just saying what I was thinking.
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adaliabooks: The possibility of 4 scum was purely working the numbers. JMich said last game it was usually 25% of total players, which is 13, so 4.25. But the mafiascum wiki kind of suggests it's rare to get more than 3, hence why I said 3 or 4.
13 divided by 4 is 3.25.