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As of right now I am looking at trent krypyn and dedo.

Dedo - . Yes a bit has to do with different play style but that is not the only reason. I feel he is staying very far on the side lines and not adding to much new information or opinions. More like he pops up and slides into the conversation and right back out again. In the last game he was right up in the front about different options and thoughts on how things effect the game or what he thinks a certain play might help. Yes, he has popped up a here every now and then with possibilities but I feel he is far from actually being involved in what is going on.

Trent- I am not sure about this whole going back and forth over the night action. Most of his posts are defending himself and not much more.

Krypsyn - Is all over the place this game. At first it looked to me like he wanted to be lynched. I feel like there is a reason he is playing so very different. I am just not sure what it is.
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mrkgnao: FUN FACT: We have posted more posts in these less-than-two days that the combined total of game #22 AND game #23.
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CSPVG: Welcome to your first interminable GOG Mafia game. Please collect your knee and elbow pads at the door; we have a lot of glass left to crawl through.
I begin to understand your lurking (although I still deplore it). You already know this is a marathon. We young'uns still think it's a sprint.

Everyone, I am still bogged down with updating MaGog to the new GOG format changes (see the "what did just update?" thread for lots of evidence). I expect at least three more days of work.
Fun fact : The day would end if someone is lynched (or if a nolynch is agreed upon).

Vitek has 1 vote, by DarkoD13.
Trentonlf has 2 votes, by Sage103082 and Dedoporno.
Sage103082 has 1 vote, by Robbeasy.
Krypsyn has 1 vote, by Trentonlf.

Lots of people aren't voting, lots of people aren't being voted for (or against, not sure how to phrase that one).

Trentonlf is at L-4.
Nolynch is at D-8.
Post edited November 08, 2014 by Telika
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Sage103082: Dedo - . Yes a bit has to do with different play style but that is not the only reason. I feel he is staying very far on the side lines and not adding to much new information or opinions. More like he pops up and slides into the conversation and right back out again. In the last game he was right up in the front about different options and thoughts on how things effect the game or what he thinks a certain play might help. Yes, he has popped up a here every now and then with possibilities but I feel he is far from actually being involved in what is going on.
You are absolutely correct on this (the not as involved as in last game part). Just like others IRL is taking a lot of my time now and I can't post or check the forum as frequent as I would like. In addition, the current situation is pretty weird and I'm as confused as the next player. But to say I'm not involved in what is going on is an overstatement, especially when it's coming from you :)
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Sage103082: Dedo - . Yes a bit has to do with different play style but that is not the only reason. I feel he is staying very far on the side lines and not adding to much new information or opinions. More like he pops up and slides into the conversation and right back out again. In the last game he was right up in the front about different options and thoughts on how things effect the game or what he thinks a certain play might help. Yes, he has popped up a here every now and then with possibilities but I feel he is far from actually being involved in what is going on.
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dedoporno: You are absolutely correct on this (the not as involved as in last game part). Just like others IRL is taking a lot of my time now and I can't post or check the forum as frequent as I would like. In addition, the current situation is pretty weird and I'm as confused as the next player. But to say I'm not involved in what is going on is an overstatement, especially when it's coming from you :)
maybe poor choice of words for the last sentence. I did not mean to imply you are in involved at all. That should have been ..... but I feel he is far from actively being involved in what is going on.
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Sage103082: maybe poor choice of words for the last sentence. I did not mean to imply you are in involved at all. That should have been ..... but I feel he is far from actively being involved in what is going on.
This I can accept :) And yeah, this is mostyl IRL and the general confusion with what is going on. If you go back, when I clashed with Vitek you'll see I was far more active - that was because I had something to cling on and not much else. So many changes from then, all the claims and stuff. Right now I'm not really sure how to act, so I'm joining where and whenever I see something noteworthy and try to go from there.
Whats usually done at this stage - and we can afford it as we have nailed scum first day - is that we look at lynching not necessarily who looks scummiest (especially as we cant agree on any one suspect between us) , but at lynching who would reveal the most information. Who has claimed, fingered others, revealed other info, had info corroborated by others.

I think this is the only way forward.

All of which points at HijacK. He is a suspect to me, I don't like his claim much, and lynching him will reveal more information about todays events than lynching anyone else.

My preferred scum target is Sage, but I really dont think lynching her will reveal the info lynching Hijack would.
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Robbeasy: All of which points at HijacK. He is a suspect to me, I don't like his claim much, and lynching him will reveal more information about todays events than lynching anyone else.
In post #1451, you offered a gradient list of the five non-adalia-voters (scum to town). You listed HijacK fourth, second only to trentonlf (your towniest). Your summary ends: "So a bit of good and bad from Hijack, neutral". At that point HijacK already had three votes. You did not vote for him, so presumably you did not suspect him that much back then.

Since you now suspect him, I presume you do so as a result of his claim. As this seems to be the opposite trajectory that most others (including myself) have taken, perhaps you should explain. You did jot some thoughts in #1517, but not enough for me to figure it out.

Additionally, could you please elaborate roughly what kind of information you expect to be revealed if he flips town and if he flips scum.
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Robbeasy: All of which points at HijacK. He is a suspect to me, I don't like his claim much, and lynching him will reveal more information about todays events than lynching anyone else.
You don't have to like it, you have to take it for what it is. This being said, why don't you vote for me already? It seems to me you are waiting for clearance from others. And where were you with this awesome idea when I begun actually hinting at my role?
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mrkgnao: Additionally, could you please elaborate roughly what kind of information you expect to be revealed if he flips town and if he flips scum.
This. And I'm more interested in the Town flip part.
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Sage103082: Krypsyn - Is all over the place this game.
I am? I think I have been pretty consistent. Please elaborate on what you mean by "all over the place"?

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Sage103082: At first it looked to me like he wanted to be lynched.
I am pretty ambivalent about it, actually.

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Sage103082: I feel like there is a reason he is playing so very different. I am just not sure what it is.
How am I playing differently? And, more to the point, differently than what?
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Sage103082: Krypsyn - Is all over the place this game.
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Krypsyn: I am? I think I have been pretty consistent. Please elaborate on what you mean by "all over the place"?

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Sage103082: At first it looked to me like he wanted to be lynched.
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Krypsyn: I am pretty ambivalent about it, actually.

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Sage103082: I feel like there is a reason he is playing so very different. I am just not sure what it is.
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Krypsyn: How am I playing differently? And, more to the point, differently than what?
For me you are very hard to place as town or scum. I keep moving you up and down my list.

I feel - you are playing different than game 22. You were very active being the leader to a degree. Yes you were scum but you started you play the same way no matter what alignment you are. So to me it feels like you are hanging back a degree.
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Robbeasy: All of which points at HijacK. He is a suspect to me, I don't like his claim much, and lynching him will reveal more information about todays events than lynching anyone else.

My preferred scum target is Sage, but I really dont think lynching her will reveal the info lynching Hijack would.
Nobody has given hijack more heat than me in Day 2, but you're going to have to run this one by me again.
Meaning, tell me please what I am supposed to learn if hijack flips Town Flavor Cop.
the only reason im suggesting this is to try and get some sort of pulling together between us all.

We are meandering towards either a rushed lynch, or a no lynch. We can all see this coming, yet people keep coming up with reasons to continue the debating, to continue the fractured nature of our discussions.

I tell you now, look closely at these people who continually question and try to divert away from any sort of bandwagon forming.

Why HijacK? Hes claimed, his claim is not a safe one. Yes, i said i had him neutral, and he's not my choice target , as I have said, but I do think the most info could be gathered from him - the validity of his claim, the fact he's been closest to lynch already this day, and the fact he's been quite vocal - plenty of rereading of his days posts to go on, no matter which way he flips.

It's not ideal, but at this late stage of the day when theres no real target there doesn't seem to me to be any other way to rescue this day - there's no way between now and end of day that we are going to get enough of a slip from anyone to make peoples minds up.

If you think I'm talking bollocks, then lynch me. I'd be happy to sacrifice myself if it helps town, and I would implore people to take time to read back through and look at those that try to stop any idea of what , at his stage of the day, is a sensible and pro town move.

For fecks sake people, lets have some minds made up and some knobs put on the block..

unvote sage

vote hijack