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nmillar: People can change their votes. The day will continue until someone has 4 votes or the deadline has been reached. We definitely need a decision before then, otherwise we're handing control back to the mafia for their night-time kill.
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Nazarush: Well I believe if we hit the deadline, whoever has the most votes will be lynched and a nolynch will only occur if there is a tie for highest votecount. I could be wrong though
No, a lynch requires a majority vote, so if nobody has 4 votes by the deadline, we have a "no lynch".
damn, well I guess someone better make a compelling argument in the next few days
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nmillar: I also have my suspicions of Dominic998 (as previously outlined), but neither person who has voted for him has stated a proper reason ...
I'm not great at logic, I've mostly been playing on instinct. He was absent for quite a long time towards the start of the game. Almost as if he was laying low. I also think his vote for Damnation is a bit odd (especially since the only other vote for Damnation is from Titanium).

Of course... I was also suspicious of GoJays2025 earlier and although I now think he probably is innocent, maybe he's actually the third mafia member and is trying to save Titanium (assuming Titanium is the second). Fuck, you made me think and now I'm more confused about it than I was before.

TBH, I'd be voting for Titanium if he didn't have 3 votes already. I, like GoJays2025 don't want to be the final straw.
I hope it's been long enough for this to not merge...

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Nazarush: damn, well I guess someone better make a compelling argument in the next few days
Yeah, if we just dicuss this like mad then hopefully we'll arrive at some kind of consensus by the weekend.
Ok, my thoughts over the last few days.

After initially suspecting nmillar and Damnation I am less sure. Their coordination seems too scummy to be mafia (if you get my drift). Besides, if they were mafia and did manage to get a townie lynched, they would suddenly become prime suspects and it would have been a self-defeating tactic.

When Naz voted for Titanium as well, I came to a new conclusion. nmillar and Dam were innocent (as was Titanium) and the mafia (Naz and either eye or gojays) were cashing in on nmillar and Dam's gun-ho attitude to lynch a townie, safe in the knowledge that all the suspicion would be on nmillar and Dam when the new day dawned.

But with eye and gojays voting for me that all changed, and now I'm not so sure. A number of possiblities come to mind:

1. Titanium is innocent, and Naz along with one of nmillar and Dam (but not both) are mafia. nmillar/Dam accused Titanium in the hopes of lynching him, and Dam/nmillar agreed with them, but only by coincidence. After a period of time Naz voted for Titanium, hoping one of the townies would make the deciding vote. This way there is no obvious pattern in who voted for Titanium, though in this case it means one of the mafia (either nmillar or Dam) were suspicious, though the other would appear fairly innocuous.

2. Titanium is mafia, and either eye or gojays is the other mafia. This would suggest why they voted for me, as they can make it look like they are suspicious of me for defending Titanium, deflecting suspicion from Titanium without having to actually defend him (which could look scummy). Though I suppose this tactic does not really save Titanium from suspicion either. Also, only one of eye and gojays would be mafia, yet both voted for me, and the coordination they showed could be interpreted as scummy. Leading to...

3. eye and gojays mafia, Titanium innocent. An even less plausible explanation as they could easily have lynched Titanium by now with relative impunity.

So, in conclusion, I have no idea what the f*** is going on
okay, two days without any posting does not qualify as making a decision. Ive reread the thread and unfortunately havent found a truly compelling case against anyone, but Ill probably do another read through later today.

Another thing: unvote: titanium

Im going to leave myself voteless for now, but Im willing to stick my neck out by being the hammer on a lynch if I can agree with the reasoning behind the other votes.
Sticking with my vote for Titanium, and would happily have cast the deciding vote. The mafia have had a couple of opportunities to lynch him, but haven't done so. Why? Because he's one of them.
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nmillar: Sticking with my vote for Titanium, and would happily have cast the deciding vote. The mafia have had a couple of opportunities to lynch him, but haven't done so. Why? Because he's one of them.
The other possibility is that the mafia had already voted for him. You've probably had the most influence over the votes of other players in this game, we're gonna feel so stupid if you turn out to be mafia (note: I'm not accusing you, I can't think of a particularly good reason to suspect you at the moment).
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eyeball226: The other possibility is that the mafia had already voted for him. You've probably had the most influence over the votes of other players in this game, we're gonna feel so stupid if you turn out to be mafia (note: I'm not accusing you, I can't think of a particularly good reason to suspect you at the moment).
Sure, that's a possibility, but given the fact that Damnation cast the deciding vote for lynching GameRager, then it seems unlikely that he is mafia. This (and the fact that I know I'm not mafia) means Titanium has two non-mafia votes already, so if the mafia wanted to kill another townie, they could have done so by now.

Damnation also has two votes. Clearly at least one of those who have voted for him is mafia. I'm sure Titanium is, but not convinced about Dominc yet ... in fact, when it's proved that Titanium is mafia, then Dominic will become the most likely suspect to be the third mafia member.

This seems a little too easy though, so I'm leaning towards either GoJays or Eyeball as being the third member.
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eyeball226: The other possibility is that the mafia had already voted for him. You've probably had the most influence over the votes of other players in this game, we're gonna feel so stupid if you turn out to be mafia (note: I'm not accusing you, I can't think of a particularly good reason to suspect you at the moment).
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nmillar: Sure, that's a possibility, but given the fact that Damnation cast the deciding vote for lynching GameRager, then it seems unlikely that he is mafia. This (and the fact that I know I'm not mafia) means Titanium has two non-mafia votes already, so if the mafia wanted to kill another townie, they could have done so by now.
You can't use "but I know I'm not mafia" when trying to convince others... that's a given (because you're either innocent or lying) so it's not really even worth saying. Damnation is probably innocent, but you and Nazarush could easily be mafia. In this hypothetical situation, Nazarush has taken his vote back off because the no one stepped forward to give the final vote. He's better off targeting someone else.
Damnation also has two votes. Clearly at least one of those who have voted for him is mafia. I'm sure Titanium is, but not convinced about Dominc yet ... in fact, when it's proved that Titanium is mafia, then Dominic will become the most likely suspect to be the third mafia member.
I'm damn suspicious of both of them. The info we get from whoever ends up being lynched will hopefully shed some light.
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eyeball226: You can't use "but I know I'm not mafia" when trying to convince others...
I can when I'm making observations from my own perspective. We're running out of time too. Three more days before a "no lynch" is passed, so we need to reach an agreement quickly.
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Titanium: ...
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Damnation: ...
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GoJays2025: ...
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Dominic998: ...
Congratulations! You may have already won the first official GOG Mafia in-game prod! Please respond in thread within the next 48 hours to claim your fabulous prize!
Post edited February 11, 2011 by Zchinque
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eyeball226: You can't use "but I know I'm not mafia" when trying to convince others...
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nmillar: I can when I'm making observations from my own perspective.
I just meant that it goes without saying.
We're running out of time too. Three more days before a "no lynch" is passed, so we need to reach an agreement quickly.
Yeah. =/ I'm considering switching my vote to Titanium... Not Damnation though.
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eyeball226: Damnation is probably innocent, but you and Nazarush could easily be mafia.
If nmillar is mafia, then he and GameRager went with the most outlandish gag imaginable. First the one gives a damning evidence to his guilt, then the other points to it immediately and basically condemns him. It's brilliant, but I just don't think it was planned. I think it was inevitable for Rager to make that fail, in a way fortunate. Didn't doubt one bit that being thrown into the game he would make at least a few things easier. But to be fair my vote for him was total bluff, a joke if you will. Had a feeling I should unvote him, and then Blam. Anyway, more likely than not is the fact that the former lynch was mostly an accident, but some sort of orchestration can't be ruled out.

As for Nazarush... yes, he could be the second mafia, right next to Damnation,... if nmillar isn't the one. Or nmillar, and Nazarush, one from the front lines and one mostly from the back. But now that he unvoted me it seems unlikely that he wants to follow an agenda. So I guess not mafia. I'm probably just as confused as anyone, I reckon.
Hey, just posting re the prod.

I don't really have anything to add, i'm just so confused!

Ps. regarding reaching an agreement, I hope we all agree that if we lynch someone we better be pretty darn sure he/she is mafia. Otherwise, it would be better to accept the forced no lynch.