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DarkoD13: I have to agree with Vitek here. I don't get why Telika needs to be lynched first from the Telika/nmillar duo, but from the pazzer/flub one people are picking pazzer. I've never played with pazzer before, but both situations seem similar. Actually, we have better odds at getting a scum out of the pazzer/flub pair than the Telika/nmillar one since one of them is definitely lying.
And, honestly, I'd be more comfortable voting for someone I actually suspect (flub) than someone I believe to be town (Telika) if it comes down between these two.
The votes are spread too much at the moment, though. We shouldn't forget that we only have 3 days till the deadline.
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Red_Baron: Just pointing out here that the current discussion is not whether to lynch Telika/nmillar, but in regards to pazzer/flub. So I believe that there is a general agreement that they are more likely targets for the lynch. Also it appears that at least I (due to prior suspicions), Vitek(against which a result, suspect`?) and you (prior suspicion) agree that flubbucket are the better of the two to lynch.

As such I'll be switching my vote to get it defined who I prefer in this pazzer/flub lynch to go first:

vote flubbucket
Fine with this, just don't punk out when pazzer comes back after my town flip with some "plausible explanation."

If you refuse to vote pazzer you will be opening up yourself to many question Mr. Sparkle.

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Red_Baron: flubbucket are the better of the two to lynch.

vote flubbucket
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P1na: I voted for flub before it was cool.
Lulz
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JMich: I thought he had also declared Prudence explicitly as "That which must not be mentioned", but that is a post I couldn't find.
no
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DarkoD13: The votes are spread too much at the moment, though. We shouldn't forget that we only have 3 days till the deadline.
Tomorrow we'll have another prod on pazzer, with him posting that "Actually I have been AAAAH sorry my shoelace is untied, brb".

Then the wagons on flub/pazzer will grow, one will tilt the balance (probably the wrong one, with the mafia votes helping) and will quickly reach lynch.

And tomorrow, the survivors (of the mislynch and the nightkill) will get the mafioso (the unlynched one of both). So, I don't feel too anxious.
Yes, I am still waiting for pazzer to say something.

As I stand at the moment, I would be much more comfortable lynching pazzer, I do think something is not right with him. However, I understand the reasoning behind lynching flub first, and if nothing else happens before we are closer to deadline I would also put my vote on him. I just want to wait a little and see what is happening.
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Telika: Tomorrow we'll have another prod on pazzer, with him posting that "Actually I have been AAAAH sorry my shoelace is untied, brb".
This would be an amusing observation if it wasn't actually pretty likely and therefore depressing.

Those on the fence, whose (in)actions are currently stalling the game?
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flubbucket: Fine with this, just don't punk out when pazzer comes back after my town flip with some "plausible explanation."
-snip-
Of course :) if you are town then pazzer is next. But damn I wish I would return. Not having him around almost makes him more preferred because it feels so suspect to case a thing like this, and then just vanish - leaving us in the dark what he intended with it (or it was the worlds worst joke post - so bad that it couldn't be). But yea, worst case is the order in which we get them, since I cannot see both of them being town as an option.

Consider this an off-topic question as not to confuse:
Though a funny thing that just hit me, in regards to both the T/N and the P/F lynches - isn't there a role that shows as town when dead? Not, and take note, that I intend to use that for an argument or anything - this is purely a question about something I have some vague recollection of. I highly doubt that to be the case, even if my memory is correct, so this should in no way be taken as an argument - I do not believe it to be a part of this scenario and if anything it would be more likely for Telika than any other and even then it is still impossible. Actually I think this whole segment is just me asking what that role is called, ignore the rest.
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Red_Baron: isn't there a role that shows as town when dead?
What would be the point of that? do not the mod tell which alignment a player had in the post where they announce that the player is dead?

Do you mean that the one doing the investigation turns around and say "aha - the moderator is wrong, I did an investigation, and PlayerX is in fact not scum, but town!"...
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amok: What would be the point of that? do not the mod tell which alignment a player had in the post where they announce that the player is dead?

Do you mean that the one doing the investigation turns around and say "aha - the moderator is wrong, I did an investigation, and PlayerX is in fact not scum, but town!"...
On my last (and only) game, my role wasn't revealed when I was cowardly murdered by the mafia. I don't know why though, I kept following the thread for a while but I soon lost interest and so I don't know what kind of roles where in play that night.
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amok: What would be the point of that? do not the mod tell which alignment a player had in the post where they announce that the player is dead?

Do you mean that the one doing the investigation turns around and say "aha - the moderator is wrong, I did an investigation, and PlayerX is in fact not scum, but town!"...
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P1na: On my last (and only) game, my role wasn't revealed when I was cowardly murdered by the mafia. I don't know why though, I kept following the thread for a while but I soon lost interest and so I don't know what kind of roles where in play that night.
hm... that makes the game much harder... so far (in 2 games....) the mod told each time who each player was, and it makes sense. If the players do not know, then it makes it very difficult to know what to do next. As in the case now with flub and pazzer. We string up flub, but will never know whether he is in fact town or mafia. Which makes the decision to lynch pazzer based on flubs lynch a bit meaningless. I hope this game is not like that.



and reading all this I realise I am mixing up roles and alignments, so it is probably best to ignore whatever I am saying. I think that may be a good general rule in life. Sorry,
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P1na: On my last (and only) game, my role wasn't revealed when I was cowardly murdered by the mafia. I don't know why though, I kept following the thread for a while but I soon lost interest and so I don't know what kind of roles where in play that night.
You were killed by Joe, who was a Janitor. That is why no info was given.
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Red_Baron: Though a funny thing that just hit me, in regards to both the T/N and the P/F lynches - isn't there a role that shows as town when dead? Not, and take note, that I intend to use that for an argument or anything - this is purely a question about something I have some vague recollection of. I highly doubt that to be the case, even if my memory is correct, so this should in no way be taken as an argument - I do not believe it to be a part of this scenario and if anything it would be more likely for Telika than any other and even then it is still impossible. Actually I think this whole segment is just me asking what that role is called, ignore the rest.
Sounds to me like you're talking about a miller. But you're sort of describing it from the wrong side. They show as town when dead because they are town, just like other normal townies. The thing that's interesting and different about them is that they appear scum on investigation. Sort of the opposite of a godfather I suppose.
There is also a variant that even appears scum on death and is only revealed to be town at the end of the game.

Now, these are possibilities worth bearing in mind but at the same time we're offering paz ammo to claim innocence if Flub flips town. Personally, I'd be ok lynching flub if paz actually comes back before the deadline to answer some questions. If paz continues his game of "confuse and then disappear" then I say we lynch him first because I see his revelation and disappearance as a way to suddenly confuse things just before the deadline in the hope of another no-lynch.

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amok: What would be the point of that? do not the mod tell which alignment a player had in the post where they announce that the player is dead?

Do you mean that the one doing the investigation turns around and say "aha - the moderator is wrong, I did an investigation, and PlayerX is in fact not scum, but town!"...
See above.
Would be horrible role as it would mean mod is lying to us with "facts".
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SirPrimalform: Sounds to me like you're talking about a miller. -snip-

Now, these are possibilities worth bearing in mind but at the same time we're offering paz ammo to claim innocence if Flub flips town. Personally, I'd be ok lynching flub if paz actually comes back before the deadline to answer some questions. If paz continues his game of "confuse and then disappear" then I say we lynch him first because I see his revelation and disappearance as a way to suddenly confuse things just before the deadline in the hope of another no-lynch.
Yea, thats why I tried to be precise in that it was not an argument I would consider as an excuse. But yea, it is likely that I am just confusing it with the miller role or a godfather showing as town when investigated. It is some vague recollection from one of my earlier games thats playing in, so its perfectly possible I am just thinking about the miller. Thanks :)
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Vitek: Would be horrible role as it would mean mod is lying to us with "facts".
Aye, which is why it's not something we can really take into account. If we start working on the basis that the mod is lying to us then there's no point in anything.
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Vitek: Would be horrible role as it would mean mod is lying to us with "facts".
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SirPrimalform: Aye, which is why it's not something we can really take into account. If we start working on the basis that the mod is lying to us then there's no point in anything.
On the plus side, maybe Bernie is fine and there was no reason to worry. On the minus side, maybe three of us died last night.