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SirPrimalform: Oh fuck, we have the Telika and nmillar situation and now we have a similar situation between paz and Flub. paz says flub is 'not town' and flub says he's lying... So unless paz is insane then one of them is lying and therefore scum.

Great, so we have two "one or the other" situations and one admitted liar. No shortage of lynch targets but none of them really definite safe lynches. Probably 1 or 2 amongst the 5 though. My guesses are nmillar and flub.

Reasoning for flub is that I can't see a motivation for paz lying out of the blue like that, if he's scum that lie wouldn't pay off in the long run because it would get him lynched.
You're a seasoned player and you know the math. If I'm lynched I will show to be town. pazzer can then say, "boy is my face red. I guess my results are because I'm an insane cop. Sorry guys. Let's let bygones be bygones." And then continue "scum hunting."

He might be suspected, but it will result in other scum team mates able to bus at the very least.

I will never vote for myself, but should my lynch occur the town MUST be ready to deal with pazzer.

I'm voting pazzer now just to show my true feeling in the matter. However I am willing to change my vote to secure a lynch.

Vote:pazzer
Just a thought before sleep. I suspect nmillar for an array of reasons that pre-date the jail reveal. I thought I could pin him almost univocally (at the cost of my lynch) when he claimed what seemed to be a block (as it would have required an other event to explain the calm night, and if there had been actually one, there were even chances for it to be another block revealing a killer). The jail changes the situation a bit. First because his certitude looks even less honest now, but also because the lack of kill would still be easy to explain after my lynch, allowing NMillar to get away with ease. This doesn't motivate my self-lynch very much.

But my point isn't even there. As I said, I suspect him most, but still slightly less with a jail than with a block. The thing is, if NMillar is mafia then I wasn't targetted for a kill. Mafia would know that I am protected. So either mafia had indeed decided to lynch a jailed person instead of nightkilling someone, or they did get hindered another way.

Which makes for a lot of night events (another block, again, and maybe designating the culprit, or maybe a doctor but what are the probabilities of all that).

Or I was actually targetted at night. And ironically saved by my main suspect (as usual in mafia games). I am forced to at least take this possibility in account.

In that case, what are the odds for three different people to have targetted me last night ?

Did CSPVG try to kill me, did he claim by fear of having been followed ? He's not as high on my scumlist as NMillar and some others, but, well. If I was to get lynched today or killed tonight (a possibility as I may have been targetted already), and of course "if" I flip town, then I think that both NMillar and CSPVG should be lynched, or at least madly scrutinized.

There. I wanted this to be present in a post. Probably more useful for another day than for the time being.
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flubbucket: I'm voting pazzer now just to show my true feeling in the matter. However I am willing to change my vote to secure a lynch.

Vote:pazzer
When was the deadline? Despite Vitek's crimes against bananas, I don't want another no-lynch so this time I'll vote for whoever's closest when the time comes.
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flubbucket: I'm voting pazzer now just to show my true feeling in the matter. However I am willing to change my vote to secure a lynch.

Vote:pazzer
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P1na: When was the deadline? Despite Vitek's crimes against bananas, I don't want another no-lynch so this time I'll vote for whoever's closest when the time comes.
the 7'th, I think

http://www.gog.com/forum/general/gog_mafia_19_a_slalom_mafia/post792
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SirPrimalform: I do kind of wonder what the point of your post here was though.
Nothing more than wondering why you didn't comment it on it straight away. Waiting for flub's response is an acceptable answer.
hmmm. My current deadline for a work project is tomorrow, so if I feel like it I might actually spend some time thinking about who to vote before the 7th.

...Or might get drunk and play games for 3 days. One of the two.
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SirPrimalform: I do kind of wonder what the point of your post here was though.
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nmillar: Nothing more than wondering why you didn't comment it on it straight away. Waiting for flub's response is an acceptable answer.
I had commented on it a little before that, but yes, I had more to say after Flub's response.

Interestingly, flub suddenly doesn't seem as happy to sacrifice himself to prove paz scum.
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nmillar: Nothing more than wondering why you didn't comment it on it straight away. Waiting for flub's response is an acceptable answer.
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SirPrimalform: I had commented on it a little before that, but yes, I had more to say after Flub's response.

Interestingly, flub suddenly doesn't seem as happy to sacrifice himself to prove paz scum.
Pure spin.

I want there to be a concerted effort by town and mafia to lynch me. I will prove to be town without question. I need to be out of the mix and the other players need to be voting me in order for there to be evidence to scrutinize.

Mafia 101....you know this
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SirPrimalform: I had commented on it a little before that, but yes, I had more to say after Flub's response.

Interestingly, flub suddenly doesn't seem as happy to sacrifice himself to prove paz scum.
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flubbucket: Pure spin.

I want there to be a concerted effort by town and mafia to lynch me. I will prove to be town without question. I need to be out of the mix and the other players need to be voting me in order for there to be evidence to scrutinize.

Mafia 101....you know this
Ah, I must have misinterpreted...
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flubbucket: Pure spin.

I want there to be a concerted effort by town and mafia to lynch me. I will prove to be town without question. I need to be out of the mix and the other players need to be voting me in order for there to be evidence to scrutinize.

Mafia 101....you know this
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SirPrimalform: Ah, I must have misinterpreted...
Your sincerity warms my colon.
I honestly am baffled, and a little hurt*, that you think my claim motivated by anything other than wanting to forward the Telika or nmillar lynch discussion. I did, however, explain myself poorly in that regard. What I should have added, is that I feel that it's likely that both Telika and nmillar are town, and that by claiming I was hoping to solidify both as such. I hoped to show that their were a range of other reasons why Telika wasn't necessarily the mafia killer, and further validate nmillar's claim by showing that Telika's door was indeed locked.

I don't think it would really make much sense for a mafia player to draw attention onto themselves in this way.

TwilightBard: I had already stated that nothing much happened with my night action in post 693. To elaborate on it, I went to Telika's room and found the door locked. I then, according to the flavour, thought Oh well then, nothing that I can do, and strode off.

amok: Looking back for the post number in my above remark to TwilightBard, I skimmed over the thread for a bit, and found that you had said that you had picked a number( 2, if I remember correctly), but that you'd not known the result of your action. How is the possible, and would you care to elaborate on this? If I've missed anything, and you've already explained this, just say so.

*Can you all see the tears in the corners of my eyes?
Shouldn't Joe be prodding Pazzer a bit, now ?
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Telika: Shouldn't Joe be prodding Pazzer a bit, now ?
Prodding is fun. Can I try?
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Telika: Shouldn't Joe be prodding Pazzer a bit, now ?
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P1na: Prodding is fun. Can I try?
There are multiple editions of Worms on gog. Yes you can. It is fun indeed.
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pazzer: snip
hopefully this will work.