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P1na: ....mmmm I've been thinking about this whole clue thingy that has you guys so on edge very deeply (for about 30 seconds), and my conclusion is that it's more fun to have the clues out than to never hear about them. Because that's one more thing to mess with. So I think I'll post my clue after a while, unless someone wants to try convincing me not to.

I should warn that it will be easier to convince me to stay quiet with a funny reason than with a well thought argumental one, because I most probably won't bother trying to understand the reasoning behind the well thought one.
My only advise is - think about whether your clue can be "deflected" by mafia or not. It's a pure matter of chronology. It's either "at least the clue is openly discussed but now mafia know about it and can adapt their lies" or "aha the mafia will never see that one coming even though I can only use it for myself". The nature of the clue itself (how it can or cannot be neutralised by mafiosi learning it early enough) is what should make you decide for one or the other path.
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Zchinque: @peeps voting amok: Do you think he's scum lying about being neutral, or neutral lying about his role?
The crazy theories right after his claiming look incredibly suspicious to me. I think he's trying to distract us which gives me the impression that he's hiding something big and he's not town. I can't tell if he's actually scum. There are some big gaps about his role the way he presents it. What does he even do with the clues that any other townie can't do?

Red_Baron's quick alternating between targets hasn't gone unnoticed, but at least he generated some interesting discussion. Zchinque I've already talked about and, even though I have my doubts he's town, I don't believe he's a danger for now (unless he's incredibly bold). I do kind of suspect flub and p1na, but that's mostly because of the way the post (and because of the vague info on p1na's part).
Right now amok is by far the most "loudly" suspicious player and he's not giving me much of a choice.
vote amok.
I would be ok with revealing my clue if we all agree that it's the right thing to do, but I'm slightly apprehensive because I feel amok could be up to something. Because I get the impression he's not telling the truth about something, I'm not sure that aiding him is necessarily a good thing for us.
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JoeSapphire: <snip>
While that was going on Telika, CSPVG, Twilightbard, Robbeasy, flubbucket and DarkoD13 were conspicuous in that they had voted for nobody at all!
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Mod: Was my vote disallowed because I used a colon, or simply overlooked. Either way, I did Vote Red_Baron.

Red_Baron: I didn't accuse you of going after JMich. I simply stated that you had gone from voting for JMich to voting for amok and then Zchinque in quite a short space of time.

I also do not think that your idea to vote for amok and Zchinque based on the fact that they were 'different' some how made amok claim, which is what you seem to be saying. His claim came totally unbidden, and- if anything- seems to me to have come from DarkoD13's listing of amok as different due to his lack of clues.

Furthermore, I would say your logic was dodgy. Voting for someone based only on the fact that they're different, seems somehow dodgy to me. Another thing that you seemed to suggest, is that lynching either of your preferred options would give us more information than, say, lynching you or me. I find this to be untrue, as information doesn't so much( to my mind) come from the lynched person, but rather from those doing the lynching.

Yes, it may be true that a certain person's death reveal could tell us specifically about them and their role( or possible lack thereof), but the really interesting information comes from looking at the bandwagon that did the lynching. So your suggestion of an 'info lynch' does seem dodgy to me.

To Everyone: As we're approaching the deadline in seven real life days, I think it would be good to list our top three scum reads.

Mine, for the time being, are:

1) Red_Baron: For vote hopping and providing reasoning I see as scummy for those votes.

2) amok: His antics of late are troubling, particularly his unprompted claim. That being said, I'm getting more of a neutral playing tricks feeling, than an out and out scummy one.

3) JMich or Telika: This is based on nothing concrete. At a gut-level, however, I suspect the both of them of being scum.
my top three is:

Red_Baron: Seems to shift to much around, not trusting him at all for the moment.
P1na: Has a habit of making a lot of posts which do not exactly do anything. I am internally calling him Exaybachay at the moment...
SPF: no good reason... seems to try to glaze over things
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CSPVG: I think it would be good to list our top three scum reads.
JMich, Robbeasy, SirPrimalform and their pet dog, amok.
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nmillar: JMich, Robbeasy, SirPrimalform and their pet dog, amok.
Let me quote myself.

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JMich: Any particular reason dear, or just the fact that I dislike a mean person, even if she's not a blithering idiot?
And no longer sure that she's not a blithering idiot.
Nmillar and Quadralien so far, but i'm half-through my re-read (i still have to re-scrutinize the posts of sirprimal, p1na, vitek and twilight).

I don't think, right now, that Zchinque or Amok are scum, and therefore I don't believe in lynching them. I'm wary of their wagon's band in general.

Nmillar is quite lurkish and anything-goingly random-ish in his target selection, one of them (JMich) looking like having been decided since random phase.

Quadralien is very very lurkish, and has his "oh yeah my clue is... hmm... like yours, but, with, oh, less details" thing, which could be a mere ride on Red_Baron's claim.

I expect mafia amongst the most vocal, though. But I've ceased to consider as scummy those who disagree with me about hints and clues (which used to me my main compass, at the beginning).

I'd like to have the following clarified :

a) Red_Baron and Nmillar, you both have Prudence Eggars explicitely mentioned as "like" in your little "like/dislike" attributions ?

b) Red_Baron and Quadralien, the flavor of your clue both imply "one woman or more", or is there a way to infer whether there was 2, 1, or 0 men involved ?
What? Quadralien plays in this game too? o_O
speaking of which

Unvote Zchinque

Forgot I voted...
Amok, Red_Baron and nmillar.

Amok for apparent attempts to manipulate the voting about revealing info, unprompted claiming, a claim that is suspicious and also gut feeling.

Red_Baron for some hasty target switching and dodgy logic about who we should lynch. Seems to be trying to get a lynch through without caring who it is.

nmillar for strange behaviour to do with his likes/dislikes. Why would you assume that someone who dislikes someone you like is mafia? Maybe he's faking his like/dislike or something? Not really sure about this one.
Amok, tell us something. How did you find out about Bernie's death ?
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Telika: Amok, tell us something. How did you find out about Bernie's death ?
it does not say.

From my initial message. It just says something in the lines of:

I came here with my master on what was assumed to be a easy task, but now he has been killed and without him I have no longer any purpose in life. Except getting revenge, that is.

This is paraphrased, off course, any pselling mistakes are mine and not Joe's :)
It doesn't say where you were when he died ?
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Telika: It doesn't say where you were when he died ?
no, sorry. It just said I came here with him.