The game appears to be moving on a geological time scale.

I voted for JMich for two reasons:

1) I felt that it would clear up, for myself, whether or not I was a deranged, naive or vanilla town cop;

2) He was the closest to being lynched at the time, and I wanted to avoid a no lynch situation.

At this point, I think it would be best if we had a deadline that fell within the next week or two. Conversation seems to have stalled completely and no one really has something new to add.

I've change my mind and would now put Vitek above flubbucket on my list (for the reasons listed within that list, post 1990). I may have conceded that I could understand the discrepancy between our two stories, but I'm still not sure if I totally believe him. I do not, however, feel comfortable voting him at this point because my vote would place him at lynch 1, and I still do hope that we may yet have some conversation today.

So have we established that you're not naive or deranged then? If I had your results, I'd prefer to vote for the unsatisfying result instead of the person who has been visited by mafia. Unless you have a theory that would justify Vitek being visited by a scumbuddy.
Anyway, to get things moving a bit:
vote CSPVG

As I said, even if I don't completely trust CSPVG, I believe whoever he clears is clear, so I'd like him to go for another night. I wanted to see people's movements before casting my vote though.

We need 3 votes for a lynch, right?

You're blatantly ignoring the fact that I said I only voted for JMich because his was the lynch that seemed likeliest to actually occur. My primary suspect for that was flubbucket, but as I remember it, I was the only one voting for him, and no one else really seemed interested.

Correct.

I'm not blatantly ignoring anything since I'm not even talking about JMich anymore. I'm saying that I don't understand why, with your claimed results, you seem to think Vitek is a better suspect than flub. What's your reasoning for that, based on what we actually know about Vitek so far and what you claim you know? Do you completely ignore your negative result on him or Telika's results? Do you think they're false or does finding him in his room instead of P1na's trump all that?



Even considering he himself investigated Vitek, cleared him and he still finds reasons to consider him a suspect? I wonder what will happen when he suddenly claims a definitely mafia result from re-investigating flub on the final day of the game.
What could possibly go wrong?

EDIT: In case you misunderstood this:
I wasn't being sarcastic, I was asking what you think, for realzies.

Sorry, guys. Busy day.

Not excluding completely but I founnd him the least likely. I would say you and flub both 40= and he 20%. So lynching the 2 of you would give us 80% chance of winning.
I find his claim to be just too weird to be lie and don't really see it as scummy as you do.
Also there is similar thing as with Pina. He is proven by Telika to have some non-agressive role, so shouldn't be scum. Looking at his older targets now, though, if he was something like blocker, then he never targeted person who would notice that. But he did target me tonight and I should be notified.
I concede the point you mentioned recently, about him presented getting town read on me and then going after me as suspect. Te same thing he actually did with JMich, where he hammered him after town result.



Because JMich was the most likely one and he could easily be godfather.
Also I have awfully horrible reads this games so nothing is tabu for me. :-p

Oh, if only anyone have told you this before...


I am still most likely to go with Darko, it could confirm CSPVG. At least Telika said that looong ago. :-)
Even if flub deserves it more,he has no bearing on anyone and he still is lyncher, which should make him more likely to be town.

It's also proven that I have a non-aggressive role, but that doesn't stop you from assuming I'm a strongman. :P
I wouldn't put him in the same category as P1na. In my mind, P1na is verified as town because his power seems to work in conjunction with Telika's power. Telika's power would probably be useless without him. I can't say the same for CSPVG.
I still can't see how my flipping town would make him town also. Anyway, all I ask if I get lynched is that you don't completely cross him out tomorrow (I won't be holding my breath based on the level of interest I've seen in this game, but whatever).

Yours is much more likely to exist alongside Rodzaju's in mafia team than his. He would be aanother role from mafia who visits players and nothing bad happpens to them.

My brain can't grasp why Telika died and yet no death last night phase. Strongman seems least likely option and to waste a night phase with no kill is just stupid since a known doctor was there?!?!

So much non-logic for my pretty face to have to comprehend....

care to explain how?

What part?

You're right, Darko. I've been thinking, and it doesn't really make a whole lot of sense to vote for Vitek after claiming that I now know, or rather that I think, that I am a regular town cop, and saying that my reads can be trusted.

So Vitek slips down the ladder of suspicion and flubbucket moves up it. While I am still uncomfortable about Vitek's assertion that he was not present in my room, it may be down to game mechanics work. Good heavens, all of this vacillating is making me thirsty.

This places me, once again, in an awkward position as to whom I think we should lynch. While I say that flubbucket is the person I find most suspect, I'm not sure that I would really feel comfortable voting for him at the moment.

No, I have never been in your room.
You never invited me, although I keep hoping. :-/

You claim you brought me there? And I don't even know it? You pervert!