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Posted April 24, 2014
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Vitek: How would you do it as mod?
Maybe CSPVG sees you going into your room, follows you, hypnotizes you, makes you forget that you ever saw him or something like that without mentioning anything about you sleeping or when you went to your room. Which makes me think Joe was trying to simplify all that.
Posted April 24, 2014
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flubbucket: Why is Telika dead??
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Vitek: Because they killed him.

No kill last night seems odd don't you agree??

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flubbucket: The mod can't have you in two places at once.

You were either protecting P1na or not. If you were, you would not have been in your room.
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Vitek: How would you do it as mod? Would you not allow me to perform my action so CSPVG can perform his in my room? Would you not allow CSPVg to perform his action because I was gone? Or would you tell CSPVG that I was outside room, guarding Pina, which is something his role shouldn't be able to learn at all?
Like I stated clearly before, if you were "doctoring" P1na you would be out of your room performing your night action. CSPVG shows up looking for you and you're gone.

You know all of this to be true, you've played this game and you know how it works.
Posted April 24, 2014
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flubbucket: Like I stated clearly before, if you were "doctoring" P1na you would be out of your room performing your night action. CSPVG shows up looking for you and you're gone.

You know all of this to be true, you've played this game and you know how it works.
No, it never works like this.
Posted April 24, 2014
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flubbucket: Like I stated clearly before, if you were "doctoring" P1na you would be out of your room performing your night action. CSPVG shows up looking for you and you're gone.

You know all of this to be true, you've played this game and you know how it works.
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Vitek: No, it never works like this.
Ok.

So by your logic if someone were to be tracking or watching your actions would they see you even leave your room??
Posted April 24, 2014
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flubbucket: Ok.

So by your logic if someone were to be tracking or watching your actions would they see you even leave your room??
Yes tracker would, because he is... you know... tracker.
Watcher woudln't.
Posted April 24, 2014
To me, it makes sense that flavour wise things don't match, but as you all know I'm not a regular player so my opinion is not all that important. But as a first time player, it makes sense that if CSPVG's role's power is to know whether or not someone is involved in murders, it won't tell them any info on the night actions of the person in question. I'm not told that Darko is out for instance, it just tells me that I go in and out real fast, without finding anything. If Darko is out all night, shouldn't I have all the time in the world to check for his belongings? And yet I don't. That's how the game works, or how it looks like to me at least.
Posted April 24, 2014
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P1na: But as a first time player
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Posted April 24, 2014
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DarkoD13: ???
Sorry, meant a beginner player. That said, on my one previous game I got killed on the first night, so not so far away from the truth.
Posted April 25, 2014
I do concede that night action prioritisation, or even the way my night time ability works*, could explain the seemingly conflicting accounts that Vitek and I have of the last in-game night.

Furthermore, I'm not really sure what to do. Perhaps it would be helpful if we each named out top two or three suspected scum. Mine are:

1. flubbucket: I haven't really liked the way flub has voted over the course of the last two days (it has seemed a little random to me), and I am still not sure of what to make of the results I got when investigating him.

2. Vitek: I may have conceded that there could be another explanation for our differing accounts of our night actions, but I still think that I should be wary of conceding too much. Add to that the fact that I feel he's been quite a lurker for most of the game, and you have your reason for him being number two on this list.

P1na: I can't seem to remember, have you investigated flubbucket yet?

*I was thinking, and perhaps my having hypnotised Vitek could explain, what I feel to be, problems with his account of last night. There has been a mention of inducing a "trance-like" state in one of the player's I hypnotised previously. I think that it could very well be that Vitek was simply in a deep sleep or trance when I left his room. There's never any mention of me snapping the people I hypnotise out of sleep I put them into, so perhaps he merely thought he was carrying out his night-action instead of actually doing so.
Posted April 25, 2014
Right, I wanted to go through possible no NK explanations.

First is that I successfully protected Pina. It would mean strongman was only 1-shot (or otherwise limited). It doesn't make much sense why hey would choose Pina over me if it was the case, but who knows maybe he thought Pina is too confirmed and I could be possible mislynch.
Still it would make more sense to kill doc.

Second possibility is that it was Darko and chose not to kill because then Pina would be able to finally visit him.I would make sense but then, he could just kill Pina and be safe. So it would have to be him and be limited shot.

Third option is that it was done just to mess with us. It could be to implicate me, like flub is trying right now, or Darko to implicate option no. 2. But any of it sounds like poor choice and I don't think it happened. It gave us one more night ( we would be at milo otherwise) and it doesn't sound like reasonable thing.

I mentioned 4 possibilities but right now I can't figure out what was the 4th one (I know it was no. 3 on the list) supposed to be. Hopefully it will come back to me.

So yeah, I am not much wiser.
My bet for mafia is Darko or flub with off-chance for CSPVG, but I am not sure I would go with his lynch.
Darko makes more sense for scum to me for reasons mentioned before. But he also, unlike flub, acts sensibly most of the time. He is also carrying the game for last 2 Days and it would be bummer to lose him if he is not mafia.
Flub on the other is a little bit less likely in my eyes, but still there is big chance for him to be mafia and I wouldn't be opposed to lynching him.
CSPVG I don't think is as likely as the other 2 to be sum, if only because of his idiotic inconsistent results. Too much weird fluff in his claims to be made up by scum.
Considering we have 2 more lynch left, I am fine with lynching any of Darko flub duo and if we miss we can take down the other one next day.

Pina is fine, if only for him being confirmed flavour thief (by Telika) and mafia already had flavour theif, and I am doctor who got visited by mafia previously, so we are both out of equation.
That gives us very high chance of winning and I don't think we don't need hang for weeks with this Day.


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CSPVG: There's never any mention of me snapping the people I hypnotise out of sleep I put them into, so perhaps he merely thought he was carrying out his night-action instead of actually doing so.
Are you claiming that your ability roleblocks target or what? So are you cop roleblocker or are you making this on the go?
Posted April 25, 2014
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CSPVG: P1na: I can't seem to remember, have you investigated flubbucket yet?
I think I did, on the first night IIRC. I got some lavender out of him.
Posted April 25, 2014
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CSPVG: P1na: I can't seem to remember, have you investigated flubbucket yet?
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P1na: I think I did, on the first night IIRC. I got some lavender out of him.
Correct. Lavender water.

How long will mafia allow the doctor to stay alive??

Lynch me and you'll see Vitek will live again through the night. Please do so because I've fulfilled my condition by lynching my brother (Gabriel Delaney) and there's no explanation for the doctor to continue living night after night.

Be logical.
Posted April 26, 2014
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Vitek: Are you claiming that your ability roleblocks target or what? So are you cop roleblocker or are you making this on the go?
It was more that I was looking for a flavour explanation for something I find a little scummy. Perhaps there isn't one, however, and I should just accept that this was simply down to mechanics within the game. As someone already pointed out, it's simply likely that, as the town cop, I investigated you to find out whether you were privy to any information about the murder. My ability, therefore, is investigation, and not flavour/ omni-cop like Telika, so I wouldn't be able to tell what you were doing when I investigated you.

In short: No, I do not believe myself to be a roleblocker, but rather the town cop.

P1na: Thanks for the answer. I could have gone back in the thread to look, but was too lazy.
Posted April 26, 2014
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flubbucket: Lynch me and you'll see Vitek will live again through the night. Please do so because I've fulfilled my condition by lynching my brother (Gabriel Delaney) and there's no explanation for the doctor to continue living night after night.
Night after night?
I claimed last Day.


(I still want to hear your answer how would you do the night actions as mod and also explanation why I was visited by Rodzaju if I am his buddy would be fine)
Posted April 26, 2014
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Vitek: Considering we have 2 more lynch left, I am fine with lynching any of Darko flub duo and if we miss we can take down the other one next day.
I have the same problem with this as I did with P1na's post. You're excluding CSPVG from lynches.
Your reasoning is that his claim is too weird? You don't believe there's any chance it's just a half-cooked fakeclaim?
And if you do trust CSPVG, why did we have to kill JMich? That's not just addressed to you, since you had the excuse of being sick at the time, but among CSPVG's results, it's the one concerning flub that's structured to be the most ambiguous (for reasons I've already explained, posting my results from he previous game).
I hope that whatever happens today people will not cross CSPVG out as a possible suspect tomorrow. JMich's lynch didn't provide any info about his affiliation.


P.S. I know I'm late for that conversation, but the doctor being immune to investigations when he's protecting someone doesn't sound right.
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